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    Registered Member One Ring NYCQUATTRO's Avatar
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    Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

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    Veteran Member Four Rings KPC1.8TQuat's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    They must have done something to tamper with the Quattro.

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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Front wheels on the Audi weren't spinning at all. They didn't even look like they were attempting to.
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    Active Member One Ring ELSNARLO's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Something is very fishy about that video.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings onceover's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    hmmm?

    RWD A8?

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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

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    Established Member Two Rings smarrick's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

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    Veteran Member Four Rings downhillracer's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Torsen Differentials deliver more torque to the wheels that have more traction. so this video is crap!

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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Been discussed WAY to many times already...
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Coderedpl's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Cmon guys!

    Its the A8 from the movie transporter!

    (for those who saw the newest know)

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    Active Member One Ring gofast951's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    I smell a Rat!!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Jet Jockey's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    This is normal because the TorSen as to see some sort od differential between the front and the rear.

    Now what we don't know is and I suspect the ESP must have been deactivated. Because we have open diffs front and rear Audi decided to use ABS in reverse logic to give us a poor man's LSD.

    So if the ESP is functional it should up to a speed of 50 mph brake any wheel that's spinning to give it better traction which doesn't seem to happen here. In other words the traction control managed by ESP and ABS should be able do help out in situations like this.

    Of course there is nothing better than a mechanical LSD.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings GTMRS4's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Jockey View Post
    This is normal because the TorSen as to see some sort od differential between the front and the rear.

    Now what we don't know is and I suspect the ESP must have been deactivated. Because we have open diffs front and rear Audi decided to use ABS in reverse logic to give us a poor man's LSD.

    So if the ESP is functional it should up to a speed of 50 mph brake any wheel that's spinning to give it better traction which doesn't seem to happen here. In other words the traction control managed by ESP and ABS should be able do help out in situations like this.

    Of course there is nothing better than a mechanical LSD.
    If I ran the rear LSD from Stasis would I completely negate the ESP?
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Jockey View Post
    This is normal because the TorSen as to see some sort od differential between the front and the rear.
    Are you implying there's no torque differential between wheels on rollers and wheels on pavement?

    It's physically impossible for that video to have an A8 with a functioning quattro. Well, unless of course they filmed it in a magical universe where you can back-drive a worm gear. If that's the case, all bets are off.



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    Veteran Member Four Rings diagnosticator's Avatar
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    Re: Quattro Vs Bmw Xdrive

    ESP and EDL are two different functions. ESP is involved with using the ABS to brake a wheel to counter a spin around the vertical yaw axis. EDL is involved with the ABS to brake a spinning wheel on slippery or low traction surfaces, to transfer drive torque to the opposite axle through the open differentials. Both also employ torque reduction as needed, but with a different control sequence.

    Electronic Stability Program/Electronic Differential Locking

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