Wilwoods are on!

[pit viper]

But, I need a shim for my front wheels for clearance still, which I forgot at hom, so no pics til tonight.

I worked with Todd at TCE to get a Wilwood caliper kit setup for my car to replace those honking HR2's. Got the ultralight calipers, braided hoses, pads, fluid all done. Everything mounted up quite nicely, using stock 13" rotors (I think they're actually 12.8").

Not a bad brake option for under $650.

*edit*
cell-phone teaser shot:

[2.slowT]

What?? More info please. How did you get them for 650?

Oh and 4 pot or 6?

[jon c]

let us know how well they work...i might want in on these eventually given the price

[Kievskiy]

More info PLEASE, i really wanted a brake upgrade, and Willwood has good feedback in my eyes.

[chrisbostonusmc]

Im paypal ready...with lots of BMW insurance money

[pit viper]

I know Todd (TCE Performance) here in Tempe, since he makes a Wilwood kit for the SRT-4. I went down and talked to him about a brake upgrade, so we looked at my car, took some measurements, and came up with this.

It's an 4-pot Ultralite caliper, bracket to mount it, lines, pads, and fluid. I had Todd do the install so we could measure lines and get everything correct. We had to do a slight resizing on the lines, and now it's on and fits great! I'm using stock size rotors, and could actually go up to about a 13.5" rotor while retaining the same setup.

All in all, a great investment for $640 in my mind. Todd almost made me car sick bedding in the pads, but I got over it.

[2.slowT]

Do these fit like a BBK or more like stock?

Cant tell the size do you have pic with the rim off?

[tquattro2004]

Very Nice. Looks like a stock fit. Nice and tight. If he is making a kit for A6 I'm in..

[2.slowT]

I can already see this is gonna be like a 5 or 6 page thread

[Das General]

Sick. I assume you had the old HP2 calipers?

[pit viper]

Sick. I assume you had the old HP2 calipers?

Yep. And now for my quick story on why I don't have any better shots in daylight...

I got home from work yesterday with an hour and a half until my kids' daycare closed. So I figured I'd test fit my new wheels I've been waiting to put on. I got 12mm spacers, and with the extra space saving from the new brake calipers, figured they should fit no problem.

So I jacked up the car, and put one on the driver's side front. It JUST touched the caliper. Not that big a deal, I had some 2mm shims I could use to push it out a little more. So I did that, and it fit ok. My only real issue is how far out this all pushes the wheel.

Anyway, so I proceeded to put on the other 3 wheels. I didn't put shims on the back, as there was no need. Checked the wheels for clearance to make sure I wouldn't hit, checked the time (25 minutes til daycare closes, it's 5 minutes away) and we're good to go.

Tried to back up, and it felt like the emergency brake was on. Only it wasn't.
Moved it up and down a few times to make sure it wasn't stuck or anything, but the car still won't move.

So I got out, looked at all the wheels again to make sure nothing was touching, which it wasn't. Jacked up each front corner, and the wheels spin just fine. At this point, I figured the emergency brake must just be totally stuck. I jacked up the rear, and sure enough the wheel won't turn at all. Removed the wheel, and then had the neighbor actuate the e-brake a few times while I was watching the caliper. Hmmm, seems just fine. Tried turning the hub and it turns freely.

I'm starting to freak out a little, since I'm running out of time. Then I had an epiphany. Put the rear wheel back on, and only partially threaded the lugs. Sure enough, it turns. Crank them all the way down, it won't. They're hitting behind the hub! I had ordered longer lugs when I ordered the spacers. Apparently they are just a hair too long, as the ones in front, where the wheels had that small shim, weren't hitting. I tried the stock lugs in the rear, but sure enough, they're too short.

So, I had to take off the new wheels in the back and put on the stock wheels with the stock lugs. So now over lunch today I get to go hunting for lugs that are longer than the stock ones and shorter than my new ones.

So, in the meantime, here's some quick shots at night that are too dark.

[FrankA6]

for 650 i would buy them also, tell your buddy Todd we might be able to get a group buy going on here, have him just the specs of yours.

[Kievskiy]

What Frank said, there will be a lot of c5 folks interested in this setup for THIS kind of money !

[pit viper]

for 650 i would buy them also, tell your buddy Todd we might be able to get a group buy going on here, have him just the specs of yours.

What specs are you looking for?

[Kievskiy]

the specs might be different for different years;) offset for example.

[pit viper]

the specs might be different for different years;) offset for example.

True.
What I can tell you is this: It will currently fit any car with the HP2 calipers.

As I'm not a brake guy, any other questions regarding it should probably be directed to Todd. His email address is: [email protected] .
Tell him you heard about his from Aaron (he wouldn't know who "pit viper" is ).

For applications using a different setup, it may be that he would need a car to look at.

[Kievskiy]

Even the cars with HP2 clipers have different offsets, 35 and 43, you have 35, looking by the year of your car, so it will fit mine too :D

[pit viper]

See? I'm still an Audi n00b.

[Kievskiy]

lol, i've been there too, haha

[audirs]

hey man, wilwoods look great. my buddy has them on his rsx and they work pretty well. for that price, i think alot of people may get in on this. seems like a good setup. personally id opt for the bigger rotor option, but other then that they look good.

[2.slowT]

I will email him about a group buy now.

[2.slowT]

He has emailed me back and I will report about goup buy rates

[pit viper]

Very cool. :)
Todd's a great guy, and these just seem much more in line, both performance and &&-wise, to what most of use need.

[scot_w]

I am sure he will have a market. I looked at the BIRA and MOVIT setups because I wanted to maintain the factory wheels for winter. Neither option worked out satisfactorily.

[podendum]

i had this set up on my 2001 A6 for about 5-6 years now .. front and back .. 6 piston on the front and 4 @ the back (plus 1 more small caliper - rear).. i've been trying to post picture but it won't let me... need help to post pic. i have 1 picture right now on my album ..

thanks
podendum

[2.slowT]

i have this set up on my 2001 A6 for about 5-6 years now .. front and back .. 6 piston on the front and 4 @ the back (plus 1 more small caliper - rear).. i've been trying to post picture but it won't let me... need help to post pic. i have 1 picture right now on my album ..

thanks
podendum

[podendum]

k upload 2 more pics on my album

[2.slowT]

k upload 2 more pics on my album

[RAUDIS6]

Man that is a tiny caliper. Can you get those Supersized?

[Das General]

I'd rather have a smaller caliper. I can run 15" wheels with slicks.

[TWINTURBOA6]

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Those brakes are badass!!!!

[FrankA6]

hey you think he could get these for the group buy? i don't know tho, you might need to run spacers...not sure. lol

[scot_w]

hey you think he could get these for the group buy? i don't know tho, you might need to run spacers...not sure.

Evolve rebranded AP Racing brakes? I thought those were just a Volvo thing? A friend has them on his V70R, but not that big.

[FrankA6]

i wonder if they can be fitted for the A6....would be kinda awesome

[cbock]

Back to the Wildwoods...what's the performance like compared to stock? I've got to do brakes in the not too distant future and hadn't considered Wildwoods.

[pit viper]

Again, I've now had these on for 2 days, and haven't put them through the ringer.
I've done some repeated hard stops, and they have worked flawlessly, but time will tell.

Wilwoods do have a strong racing background / current use, so I would imagine no one will be disappointed. If you do a lot of road racing, you may want to move up to something that can equip a 14" rotor.

[podendum]

that is the 2nd caliper on the rear main is the wilwood 4 pot

[pit viper]

Hey, guys, I talked to Todd about a group buy or price break, and this is what he said:

let them know that I posted a price of $579 on the kits and will do them for that including shipping without an official GB but with 5 or more confirmed, direct orders. (i.e. call with CC info and write it up, bill them when I see five names)

[cbock]

That sounds like a very nice deal! I'm interested but not ready to commit. I'd like to hear your review after you've had them on a little while. I don't need new brakes yet. But, I know I'll be needing them in the next few months. I'd jump on this sooner if they work out well. Also, fyi, my RS4 reps have high clearance for a BBK. So, I'm not too worried about fitment.

Thanks for trying it out. And, for getting the hook up from your mech!

[Kievskiy]

so if i get it correct: HP2 are 2piston, wilwoods are 4 piston?