What do you want in it??

[Wizard-of-OD]

Ok going to be doing one of my tech threads for engine building/stroking set ups for B5/B6 motors now that I have all the pictures of everything I need (Brenden helped too...THANKS)

What do you guys want in the thread?
Bare in mind that the thread will list parts for sale (gotta pay bills etc) but it will not be advertiser driven but more TECH driven as that is what I enjoy doing....

[Wizard-of-OD]

no one?

[HIERLEVELZ]

How bout a simple build thread on refreshing your bottom end. For example I plan on upgrading my rods to I.E.'s but keeping everything else OEM.

[A4twin]

How bout a simple build thread on refreshing your bottom end. For example I plan on upgrading my rods to I.E.'s but keeping everything else OEM.

2nd that....

[phsingl]

In my case (and others I suspect) having made it to the first level of BT with an unbuilt engine - I'm interested in the delta to take the car to the next level.
In other words from 230-250AWHP to somewhere in the 350 range. Clearly some sort of tinkering with the block is necessary to get there (as well as fuel/air flow I'm sure). Pictures/parts costs etc would be welcomed.

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

i would like to see everything.... really.

a mild (stock port AEB with cams and springs) head build would be cool too.

[davyboi]

ditto...i would like to see as much info as possible =P

[vinny.dtw]

I'm interested in the costs of building a 1.8t engine. Making it stronger and more reliable without going to a 2.0l. From there try to maximize the hp with just 1.8l rather then the upgrade everyone is doing on the 2.0l and a bigger turbo.

EDITED.

[AudiA4_20T]

I'm interesting in the cost of building a 1.8t engine, and seeing if you can somehow maximize that power and see where it is at.

what does that mean?

[rxrep]

While a tech DIY would be awesome just for my own knowledge, I just want a parts list for each possible build (and possibly an average retail cost for each part). One for like the "full-out" version, one for stroked plus full out, and one for just bottom end, etc.
Something like:
Bottom end requires these parts: _______
Adding on _____ will add these parts on to the above____
And on and on.
I'm just trying to ballpark piecing it together and I'm not really sure what I'm getting in to. $$$ can mean the difference from just doing bottom end, to building up everything, to stroking and going GT2871R or something where I can keep my T2 flange from the APR manifold.
Some of us know enough, but don't have the knowledge a lot of you guys have when it comes to a build. I have lots of guys with transverse experience near who have built up real nice 1.8t's, but a lot of the info they give me based on their transverse experience is different than what I see on this forum from the longitudinal guys. They're ready to do my build and let me watch and learn, but I want to get the right stuff based on what the knowledgeable people here know.

[vinny.dtw]

what does that mean?

Edited...it did not come out right.

[jojoampt]

like everyone else, id like to see real prices on a "full out" build (like dougyfresh's for instance) including estimated labor charges for those of us who dont quite have the knowhow to do it all ourselves.

[AudiA4_20T]

Edited...it did not come out right.

FYI, there are 2 guys on Vortex with the same turbo setup and basically the SAME exact mods except the 1.8L had a ported head and the 2.0L left it stock (37R).

The 1.8L guy made 680whp
The 2.0L guy made 707whp

[vinny.dtw]

^my point exactly, i want to see what the difference is between a 1.8 and a 2.0 in terms of power difference. Can you honestly justify spending another x amount of dollars when i'd be perfectly content with just 350whp daily..or whatever that number maybe.

[Redgoat]

Ok going to be doing one of my tech threads for engine building/stroking set ups for B5/B6 motors now that I have all the pictures of everything I need (Brenden helped too...THANKS)

What do you guys want in the thread?
Bare in mind that the thread will list parts for sale (gotta pay bills etc) but it will not be advertiser driven but more TECH driven as that is what I enjoy doing....

the 101 on slapping a VR6T in there 2.0T is so 2008

[03 silverbullet]

be nice to know everything form the piston ring gaping to the torque specs for a complete motor build

[a2gtinut]

Issam, I think (sure) you know Rick from NJ who did 2.0 in his B5 A4.
His build is really nice using ABA block and AEB head.
Info about such a build may interest many.

[BerNur]

wow this thread is a dream come true.. lol

[Antoinebourdeau]

the 101 on slapping a VR6T in there 2.0T is so 2009

edited and 2nd that

[JoshDub]

VR6
VR6
VR6
VR6
with a big ol T on the end

[doublezero30]

I'm interested in the costs of building a 1.8t engine. Making it stronger and more reliable without going to a 2.0l. From there try to maximize the hp with just 1.8l rather then the upgrade everyone is doing on the 2.0l and a bigger turbo.

EDITED.

i agree. but i have also been fiddling with the idea of a 2.0l stroker sometime down the line once its paid off (6months from now).

[sinful7]

How about a remotely-mounted turbo on a stroked 3.0?

[boy412]

Pros and cons of doing a 2.0L stroker vs sticking with 1.8??

I've always thought that as long as you're building a motor, why not go to 2.0L? But maybe there are some valid technical reasons for not boring out the cylinders?

[A4twin]

Pros and cons of doing a 2.0L stroker vs sticking with 1.8??

I've always thought that as long as you're building a motor, why not go to 2.0L? But maybe there are some valid technical reasons for not boring out the cylinders?

Definitely worth discussing...with dynos would be nice thanks

[Ill 3.0]

VR6
VR6
VR6
VR6
with a big ol T on the end

winnar. end thread.

[Tomek6]

Pros and cons of doing a 2.0L stroker vs sticking with 1.8??

I've always thought that as long as you're building a motor, why not go to 2.0L? But maybe there are some valid technical reasons for not boring out the cylinders?

I thought the same thing. If you're going to build it might as well add displacement. If I ever did do this it would be WAY down the road but it would still be nice to know.

[613B6]

How about a remotely-mounted turbo on a stroked 3.0?

that would be badass, or a full on NA 3.0 build, wild cams, big compression, ported heads, intake manifold designs, etc. And then maybe a progressive two stage for the drag boys...

[BerNur]

How bout a simple build thread on refreshing your bottom end. For example I plan on upgrading my rods to I.E.'s but keeping everything else OEM.

yea im also interested in keeping the 1.8L but upgrading what ever needs to be upgraded for a bat maybe obviously keeping the boost low until that 2.0L settles in

[kwik_shift]

This thread will be very helpful for people that want to got BT/BAT. Knowing how much you need in the piggy bank and so forth. Also maybe what software is ideal along with proper clutch set-ups

[kwik_shift]

This thread will be very helpful for people that want to got BT/BAT. Knowing how much you need in the piggy bank and so forth. Also maybe what software is ideal along with proper clutch set-ups

[Kamin]

As to whether the build is a stroker or not, I can't see it mattering. If the build features a stroker, than those wishing not to do a 2L can just omit the irrelevant sections. As it is, a lot of people would be doing a hone anyway and so any info on machining would still be worthwhile.

I think a complete bottom end build would be sufficient. I don't think a lot of people are doing their own heads (seating, porting, etc.)