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    3rd gear is messed up

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    So for the past 6-8 months shifting into 3rd gear would grind ONLY while I'm going WOT. About 3 weeks ago it would grind every time going into 3rd, and that lasted for just a day. It went back to normal the next day. Now for the past 4-5 days it's grinded EVERY time going into 3rd. Is this just the synchro? And what all needs to be replaced? I'm not good with trannys so any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@Autobahn View Post
    So for the past 6-8 months shifting into 3rd gear would grind ONLY while I'm going WOT. About 3 weeks ago it would grind every time going into 3rd, and that lasted for just a day. It went back to normal the next day. Now for the past 4-5 days it's grinded EVERY time going into 3rd. Is this just the synchro? And what all needs to be replaced? I'm not good with trannys so any help is greatly appreciated.
    sounds like a synchro. mine was doing the same thing, though i had multiple issues with mine lol

    if you're in first gear - say in a parking lot... and you accelerate, then let off the gas and just engine brake - do you get a whine like when in reverse?

    if you do, start shopping for a new tranny NOW instead of waiting. otherwise just get on JHMotorsport and get the rebuild kit. comes with a video so you can DIY
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    try changing your tranny fluid i had the same problem in my B5 S4 and that solved it. i just changed the fluid and like 4 days later there were no more grinds.

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    I was going to do the tranny fluid and hope that solves it.

    B6Lovin, I'll try that tomorrow morning. I'm hoping my tranny isn't messed up. =(

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@Autobahn View Post
    I was going to do the tranny fluid and hope that solves it.

    B6Lovin, I'll try that tomorrow morning. I'm hoping my tranny isn't messed up. =(
    i doubt it. for one you're not pushing over 2.5 times the stock power through yours, and for another i drive mine like a complete shit head at times.

    all my burnouts, "drifting", axis spins, drag racing, and faster than necessary shifting didnt help.
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    true true, i'd still rather change the fluid first you never know you might be lucky like i was and its not that expensive neither...good luck :)

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    i doubt it. for one you're not pushing over 2.5 times the stock power through yours, and for another i drive mine like a complete shit head at times.

    all my burnouts, "drifting", axis spins, drag racing, and faster than necessary shifting didnt help.
    Me too. I treat my car like shit at times. And it returns the favor by breaking down.

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@Autobahn View Post
    Me too. I treat my car like shit at times. And it returns the favor by breaking down.
    yup. that's how it goes though... i didn't build the car to drive it easy, and i have said time and time again that i will NOT go easy on it just because i know something is wrong (short of the motor). in the case of the transmission - i knew it was on its way out, so i made sure she went down fighting... it was going to cost about the same either way
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    i doubt it. for one you're not pushing over 2.5 times the stock power through yours, and for another i drive mine like a complete shit head at times.

    all my burnouts, "drifting", axis spins, drag racing, and faster than necessary shifting didnt help.
    I blew my trans on the K03
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    I blew my trans on the K03
    valid point lol. my car only has 60k on it though.... showed signs of death around 52k (right after my... ahem.. new motor/BAT hahahahaha)
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    I'm at 56k with 20k being driven by me. Worst 20k of this cars life.

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    So I go out to my car this morning and theres a small little pool of liquid under it. It has a pinkish tint to it? Please tell me thats not tranny fluid...

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    did you touch it? smell it?
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    That sounds like tranny fluid to me. You might just be low on fluid and have a seal out. Check your levels asap!

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    It didn't smell like anything. I smelled and smelled, just smelled like the ground haha.

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Sounds like your pentosin pink coolant probably leaking from the back of your head since your rear coolant flange is about to take a shit. Better touch it though and see if it is coolant or oil (tranny fluid)
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by A4natomical View Post
    did you touch it? smell it?
    does it taste so sweet?
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    It's coolant. Just don't know where it's coming from. Sick. So now leaking coolant AND a tranny problem!

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@Autobahn View Post
    It's coolant. Just don't know where it's coming from. Sick. So now leaking coolant AND a tranny problem!
    As David said. Coolant is probably your rear coolant flange on the head. See DIY at the top of this forum.

    Trans.... Start by flushing the fluid and putting some nice Redline MT90 in with a quart of Heavy ShockProof. If that does not fix it then your syncros for 3rd gear are on their way out as Daniel mentioned. Same symptom I have with my 1.8T trans but it did not manifest itself until I went GT28RS from bone stock. Issue was even worse when it was cold out and the trans gear oil was cold and viscous.


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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Sick. Thanks doug. I'll see what's going on in the morning.

    And what's the worst that could happen if I keep driving with a messed up 3rd gear synchro?

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Yes, and you wind up grinding 3rd gear down to nothing and having to replace 3rd gear as well. (expensive...)

    If you wind up rebuilding your transmission (IF this truely is the problem... syncros that is). I recommend all new syncros for all the gears. Might as well do 'em all while you've got it apart. $400 for the syncros. Talk to Jay at JHM as Daniel mentioned.
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Yes, and you wind up grinding 3rd gear down to nothing and having to replace 3rd gear as well. (expensive...)

    If you wind up rebuilding your transmission (IF this truely is the problem... syncros that is). I recommend all new syncros for all the gears. Might as well do 'em all while you've got it apart. $400 for the syncros. Talk to Jay at JHM as Daniel mentioned.
    yeah, if shit keeps going the way it has been you me clint and tony are gonna be the 4 tranny swap/rebuild DIY gurus... oh well, cest la vie (or whatever those frenchies say)
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    yeah, if shit keeps going the way it has been you me clint and tony are gonna be the 4 tranny swap/rebuild DIY gurus... oh well, cest la vie (or whatever those frenchies say)
    true, and if the 80 trans work we can add another one to the arsenal of possible transmissions
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    true, and if the 80 trans work we can add another one to the arsenal of possible transmissions
    yeah let me know about that asap. if you think it won't work lmk that too - i need my car up and running last week
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    wut ended up happening?

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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    yeah, if shit keeps going the way it has been you me clint and tony are gonna be the 4 tranny swap/rebuild DIY gurus... oh well, cest la vie (or whatever those frenchies say)
    I was wondering what route you chose for your tranny. Did you find a used one or you're rebuilding yours? And yeah, c'est la vie is right LOL.

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    Dam syncos that sux. That happend to me also with my third gear. I was also on my K03.
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    I hate 3rd gear, mine has been screwed up for a while now. Sometimes it is ok sometimes it grinds real nice and doesnt want to go in while trying to shift fast while winding the piss out of it.
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    Re: 3rd gear is messed up

    Quote Originally Posted by FourRings80 View Post
    I was wondering what route you chose for your tranny. Did you find a used one or you're rebuilding yours? And yeah, c'est la vie is right LOL.
    swapped a b5 1.8 tranny into my car. mine is awaiting money for a full rebuild
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    where can you source a new tranny? ive got a 6spd and my first gear syncro is messed up. thanks.
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