oil change

[italia8287]

how much do you guys usually pay at the dealership to get your oil changed? today i payed 75 dollars and it just seemed a little steep. plus is it normal to get charged labor on an oil change?

[brownishwater]

For our cars, it is normal to get charged labor for the oil change at places like shell and jiffy lube (for me atleast). The oil filters are a bitch to change thats why I stopped doing it myself. I usually pay about $75 also.

[I495 Bandit]

For our cars, it is normal to get charged labor for the oil change at places like shell and jiffy lube (for me atleast). The oil filters are a bitch to change thats why I stopped doing it myself. I usually pay about $75 also.

Whats so hard about changing the oil filter? I think they're alot easier to change than most cars.

[UGwagen]

how much do you guys usually pay at the dealership to get your oil changed? today i payed 75 dollars and it just seemed a little steep. plus is it normal to get charged labor on an oil change?

$75 is a tad less than average price for an oil change.

Remember, this is Audi dealership using OEM filter (which isn't cheap) and OE-approved synthetic oil.

Remember, the quicky $30 oil change uses cheap conventional oil, oil filter, and some labor. The quicky oil change places will charge you more than $30 anyway, because the oil filter, whether it's in a Fram package, Purolator package...costs just as much as the dealership anyway.

[Subaru71]

My local dealership wants $150 to do it. If you aren't changing your own oil, its definitely a good idea to have dealerships do it, because our cars are slightly easier to screw up than others, so even if it is cheaper, you wouldn't want to have some random lube shop do it, also, they probably wont use approved oil, and will get oil everywhere under your car. $75 is great price for a dealership, I would pay that :D

[Apache_Mech.24]

Quick question, has anybody doing their own oil change had a problem getting the oil filter canister off? i did a oil change the other day and it was the first one i've done after the deeler and i couldnt get the canister off without the possibility of breaking it off.

[q-car]

I apologize if you know this already, but this canister is meant to be removed with a 36MM socket as compared to most cars that use a strap-style oil filter wrench that goes around the entire canister. I could see it being tough to remove with that sort of tool.
Just make sure and screw off the little cap on the end, then slap the socket on, you should be good to go unless someone put it on way too tight during the last change.

[Latin Audi]

are you guys serious??! you pay 75-150 to do an oil change? give me a break, its the simplest thing you could possibly do to your car. I pay way less and I even buy the oil AND filter at the dealership.

[q-car]

Yeah I think it's easy as well. I like the ability to know for sure what oil they are putting in my car. I do pick up my filter at the dealership though.

[NYSpeedRacer]

I just buy my own oil and filter from the dealer and let my local shop put it in. Costs me $20 bucks.

[Apache_Mech.24]

I was using a adjustable wrench, i think the dealer gorilla torqued it on, i'm afraid i'll snap the thing in half if i turn to hard

[redlabel81]

Holy!!! Oilchange here in Norway at the dealer is about 285$!! :p

Oh and Latin Audi are you really in Svalbard :)

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[redlabel81]

And what oil do you use?

[Subaru71]

are you guys serious??! you pay 75-150 to do an oil change? give me a break, its the simplest thing you could possibly do to your car. I pay way less and I even buy the oil AND filter at the dealership.

lol weren't you the guy randomly flaming the OP of that other thread who was trying to get some advice? And then you got super offended when the OP returned with a "yo moma" joke?

back on topic though, it makes sense that some people would get it changed at the dealership because chances are if you own an Audi, earning $75-$150 is easier and quicker than doing an oil change yourself. I personally do my own because I don't like other people working on my car, and that I've invested in too much shop equipment not to

[aphextwin2050]

My dealer charges me $150 for the oil change.

[Heratik]

Elbow grease, mobile 0w40/castrol 5w40, and an oem filter ftw. It's still going to cost like 40 bucks in supplies.

[redhott06]

i pay 60 at my shop.. Elf synthetic oil and oem filter of course.

the 120-150 dollar change includes a bunch of other crap like scanning for cel's, just tell them you want the base oil and filter change

[MOFSTEEL]

back on topic though, it makes sense that some people would get it changed at the dealership because chances are if you own an Audi, earning $75-$150 is easier and quicker than doing an oil change yourself. I personally do my own because I don't like other people working on my car, and that I've invested in too much shop equipment not to

So you're saying because I can afford an Audi its ok to spend more than necessary for an oil change?
Sorry I think that's ridiculous.
I've done every mod on my car including: exhaust, coilovers, grille, painting valence, and rear sway.
Just because you can afford an Audi doesnt mean you can throw money away.
The reason why I can afford what I have is because im frugal and I love to do things myself.
I cant imagine paying someone to change 9.5 quarts of synthetic in my s4. I'd be broke.
I mean come on... Its an oil change!!!
People are saying this is a hard thing to do?

[elwigglero]

Or get a car with "audi care" and just drop that sucker off and pick it up for no charge.

I've never changed the oil in this car, but I do in the B5. The oil filter is in an awkward spot that makes it hard to get out of there without spilling oil all over the place. Hopefully when the warranty and audi care runs out, the 2.0t turns out to be a bit easier.

[MOFSTEEL]

I have Audi Care but they only change oil during service intervals.
Which is 5k, 15k, 25k, 35k, & 45k.

I make sure my oil is changed every 5k.

[Grishbok]

i change my oil every 3k-5k depending on how aggressive ive been driving. I change my own oil because the dealership uses cheap stuff and I figure NOBODY will take as good care of my car as me.

[Mr.Audi]

len stoler audi... $115 + tx

forget it... i have a tech @ my work do it on his lunch break.

just costs me a dollar menu double cheeseburger

[eskimopunk]

I was using a adjustable wrench, i think the dealer gorilla torqued it on, i'm afraid i'll snap the thing in half if i turn to hard

the last guy to do my oil put it on way too tight and me and the guy in the shop spent 15 mins trying to get it off and it broke in the first place so be careful.
My oil was dripping all over the place and it turns out the guy put the ring upside down so it wasn't sitting flush in there. i mean fuck. pretty stupid. But we got it fixed and they gave me new oil and shit... i bought rhino ramps recently so i can do it myself from now on, just need to get jack stands cos i don' trust that shit lol

[eskimopunk]

And what oil do you use?

Amsoil 5w30 baby

[Grishbok]

Redline vs Amsoil argument

two best oils to use.

Redline gear oil = amazing.

[redhott06]

ELF oil!! haha..

[RVT]

$54.00(+tax) at my local VW dealer. Filter and Casterol
last week no less!

[Grishbok]

wth is Elf oil?

Sounds like a good name for a mixed drink...
*copywright*


booya!!! dibs!

[redhott06]

http://www.lubricants.elf.com/lub/lu...4?OpenDocument

elf supplies formula 1, motor Gp and other major racing organizations.

[Grishbok]

I know, i was being facetious.

I think their the main supplier for the mazda rotary challenge too.

You rank them better than redline?

[redhott06]

I know, i was being facetious.

I think their the main supplier for the mazda rotary challenge too.

You rank them better than redline?

im down to use whatever formula 1 uses

actually thats all my shop uses as well.

[eskimopunk]

You rank them better than redline?

Amsoil FTMFW

[Grishbok]

Well now this is an interesting point of discussion (for me anyway). What makes amsoil better than royal purple? or red-line over elf? Seriously, Im very interested to hear the reason behind these decisions :) I dont think the same oil in the f1 cars is whats marketed to the general public. Like Sunoco's "nascar" gas is NOT the same you get at the pump.

Lets compare and maybe bring some chemistry into this :)

[eskimopunk]

Well now this is an interesting point of discussion (for me anyway). What makes amsoil better than royal purple? or red-line over elf? Seriously, Im very interested to hear the reason behind these decisions :) I dont think the same oil in the f1 cars is whats marketed to the general public. Like Sunoco's "nascar" gas is NOT the same you get at the pump.

Lets compare and maybe bring some chemistry into this :)

lol, i just use it cos it's what my shop goes by. And they have a couple high powered vehicles and lots of experience so i trust them. And every hard core german car guy i meet around here (vegas) is like amsoil amsoil amsoil! - just go on the tex lol
I don't know a whole lot about oil, just the basics, but i do know that amsoil is highly recommended, so i use it.

[eskimopunk]

quick google edit** here's the site - http://www.performancemotoroil.com/Redline_test.html

found this



anddd this:



and this


Four-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D4172)
60 kg pressure @ 150°C, 1800 RPM, 1 hour

As Tested February, 2002

Oil Tested

Wear Scar

AMSOIL Series 2000 20W-50 (TRO)
.44 mm

Redline 20W-50
.73 mm

[redhott06]

Well now this is an interesting point of discussion (for me anyway). What makes amsoil better than royal purple? or red-line over elf? Seriously, Im very interested to hear the reason behind these decisions :) I dont think the same oil in the f1 cars is whats marketed to the general public. Like Sunoco's "nascar" gas is NOT the same you get at the pump.

Lets compare and maybe bring some chemistry into this :)

i cant give you a chemical explanation.. i just figure the company that makes such high grade oil for high performance cars has the right experience to make the oil for my car. i trust their abilities.

[eskimopunk]

here's something else

http://www.dodgedakotas.com/boards/gen/9245.html

good thread discussing the different oils and why race oil isn't good to use in a DD etc. etc.

couple quotes:
"Yes, the two products use almost opposite base stock combinations. Redline use mostly Polyoester based stock and Amsoil uses mostly PAO base stocks. Redline uses alot moly and Amsoil uses alot of zink. I use both companys products and like them both. I doubt that you would ever notice a difference in real world conditions. From what I understand Amsoil has the edge in extended drain with most of it's products. Most of Amsoil products are either 25,000 mile or 2-3 times the normaly interval depending on the product. Redline has 15,000 miles or double the normaly change interval depending on product."

"(I know you didn't ask but) I'd say Mobil1 is the best of the "commonly" available synthetics and is probably the best oil at "that" price point. If that is all that fits your budget, use it because I'm not knocking it. However, Mobil1 is somewhat constrained in their formulation approach as they are trying to make a licensed product and sell it in that "lower" price range (formulated to be very good but not the best for price point reasons..I think you guys were seeing it for $18 5-qt jug).

This "lower retail price approach" limits the amount of zinc and phosphorus Mobil can use in the formulation to provide wear protection. This is why they have to play around with moly in their new Supersyn oils to get acceptable wear performance over long drain intervals.

You are making a good choice with Amsoil or Redline. I do think that Amsoil and Redline make better synthetics than Mobil1, especially Amsoil and their extended drain synthetics, but they are up in the $7.00-$8.00/qt range, so this isn't a fair comparison. Amsoil & Redline compared to Mobil1 is not apples to apples. I've had excellent results with the Amsoil Series 2000/3000 products in my personal vehicles, with change intervals of 15k-20k miles. I only use Redline for the race cars.

There are other less readily available alternatives, but when you think of real synthetics for real people, most people would agree that there are only 3 popular brands in North America: (I said popular, not only.)

Mobil1: easy to find, relatively cheap, good detergency.

Amsoil: Lasts long, excellent additive package, and stable against oxidation.

Redline: Good engine performance. (API aproved oils only, race oil is not for Joe Public unless you like tearing down and rebuilding engines) "

[redhott06]

its not "racing oil" they just happen to manufacture it.

heres a link on some stuff..
http://eurosyntheticoils.com/

[Grishbok]

good breakdown, that four ball test was one of the reasons Royal purple got shouted at, their oil broke down significantly. I'll see if i can drudge up the real statistics when i get home.

Amsoil and Redline both created studies and press releases following that four ball test. Ive got those results somewhere too, but those are bias.

Pretty much what i was going for. Hopefully if some people stumble onto the thread theyll be able to be a lil more educated on what their putting in the engine. I learned the hard way.

[redhott06]

you also cannot get total/elf or motul off the shelf anywhere, i dont think. so its not as easy to get.