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    How To? Run w/no DPs

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    Because of the core exchange and the 70mile drive(one way), I heard I could drive without exhaust from the turbos back. This is illegal but dont want to shell out $$ and drive twice. Something about disconnecting the MAF. Can someone confirm this. It was also stated, by APR, that the O2s dont need relocating, just a new file on the ECU. Guess its just a gutted DP with no need of defoulers? Any way, this is a planned tax return project.....plenty of time to sort this out.

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    well apr can tune out you rear o2's but as far as i know its only for stg 3 tunes unless you can tune yourself than it wouldnt be a problem i could be wrong about that im a noob to audis so best of luck
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    You could run about 2 miles without dp's before you melted something. Look where the turbo's exit, you don't want 900 degree exhaust gas blowing there.
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    I would just have them shipped. For 70 miles, it shouldn't be to outrageous.
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    Quote Originally Posted by RolledMySTi View Post
    You could run about 2 miles without dp's before you melted something. Look where the turbo's exit, you don't want 900 degree exhaust gas blowing there.
    I melted a hole in a SAAB 900 gas tank from running without a full exhaust..not even a turbo..
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    lucky you didnt ignite anything.. yeah the turbos exit facing the rear of hte car, but they point directly at the car, not down. youd melt something for sure
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    not to mention boost creep.

    see if they will do a collateral instead of a cash deposit
    the B5 S4 is like the mafia... there is only one way out!

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    i bet you would get a tonnnnnnnnnn of compressor surge too.

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    ill sell you a set of piggies cheap so you dont have to go without downpipes, but you will have to meet me half way from sac
    http://www.audizine.com/classifieds/...p?product=6804
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    Mod right or do it twice!!!

    If you can't afford to do it right the first time what makes you think you'll be able to afford to do it the second time? Just some friendly advice from the guy that's learned these lessons the hard way...
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    Waiting for response to used piggies for sale! Otherwise I'll have to pay more $ for new + core.

    The re-flashing eliminating rear O2s.....will I get CEL?

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    no. when you reflash to eliminate rear 02s the CEL won't come on because the 02 sensors are no longer in use. If you relocate the 02s or use defoulers then you won't need a reflash and your 02s will still be functional and serve their intended purpose. I'd just buy used piggies to save the time and effort. there are piggies and ssac DPs in the classifieds all the time for 100-150. Sell your stock DPs and have a local member help you with the install for some beer. I would imagine the shop is charging far more then $100 for this mod.

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    you dont need secondary o2's and you dont need the apr file to eliminate them. zip tie those ******s up to your transmission and drive with open dumps/down pipes. a lot of people do it this way, me being one of them. its not too loud outside but inside the car wow.. ear-rape
    i hope youre not asking about running without downpipes lol.
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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    Ah! So the re-flashing wont add power, its only the flow that does? When I get the used ones I'll just do it myself.....There are no local Audi groups, but I like being alone. I want to head up to 2Bennett anyway to get race file and some parts, so we'll see if they re-flash for free so I dont have wires hanging around.

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    Re: How To? Run w/no DPs

    This should help if you want to relocate your 02s...even if you buy used with relocated 02 sensors, this should help. There are some tips for making the wires reach farther back on the DPs: http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng75.shtml

    Or get 2 defoulers from vast if you don't want to weld:
    http://vastperformance.com/shop/prod...products_id=68

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