Pick-Up Truck

[FITZ TITS]

I need a pick-up for work now. Since I've only ever had German cars--sport compacts at that--who are the good truck manufactures? I'd like my truck to have balls, a nice size cab, full length bed, and as much accouterments on the inside as possible.

[sakimano]

I'd get a Honda or Toyota. They're Hondas and Toyotas, so you know they're solid. They get great reviews, and reliability is top notch

Of course I've never owned one, so who the fk am I?

The reason I'd buy an American truck is because they offer diesels.

[yoogene83]

my buddy has a 2006 Toyota Tacoma crew cab. It's a great truck and does everything he needs and more.

[auggy]

I guess I should say that I've never owned a pickup truck and probably never will. That being said - if I were to ever buy a pickup, it would certainly be American. American car companies (especially Ford) have almost completely committed their brands over the last thirty years to truck production. Toyota and Honda are to American trucks what American cars are to european cars - imitations. Plus the new American trucks look tough, whereas the Honda looks like dogsh**.

My 2 cents.

[juju4uofa]

Well, a Honda probably won't be the size truck you're looking for. The new Toyota Tundras are nice reliable trucks and make good power. Personally, I'd also stick with American brands though. I've owned two Chevy Silverado 4x4s and they've been excellent trucks. Not to mention, if anything does go wrong they are very easy to work on and parts are cheap. I'm not very close to you, but my newest truck is actually for sale. You may be looking for something beand new though.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...6495&cardist=0

[cab509]

What are your needs in a Truck??? DO you need towing or just the hauling capacity of an 8ft bed.

Personally I love the Chevy 2500 series. my uncle has owned many of them and I'm trying to get my dad to get one right now. But if you don't need that amount of towing capacity, etc you could get away with a smaller truck.

So I'd say just go look around. But even though they are in financial trouble I would go American or I'd get a Nissan. Also i'm sure you know this but you have to get 4x4 in a truck. It just isn't a truck if it doesn't have 4x4.

My .02 cents.



edit: juju's tuck is just about what I'm trying to get my dad to buy. If only you lived around Ohio.

[ImaVunDerBrah]

Get a Tundra! I'm trying to find an excuse to buy one, just because I want it.

[sean1.8t]

Titan anyone?

my buddy has one. full bed and crew cab. leather interior etc.... that thing rides smother than my A4(obviously) and has some mean tq.

it's not a huge truck, but it's a big truck. and obviously gas mileage is horrid.

i'd go with that or a tundra. and i say tundra because chicks dig tundra's!

[auggy]

i'd go with that or a tundra. and i say tundra because chicks dig tundra's!

lol.

[NewEnglandRS]

Definitely a new Tundra or the Lincoln Mark truck.

[RocketSurgeon]

If you need a real work truck buy American. Their cars leave a lot to desire but nobody builds a pickup like America does. Do yourself a favor and check out the new F150, Silverado, and Ram.

The Honda isn't even a truck. Hell, the thing is on the Accord chassis. And the Tundra is a POS. Have you guys not heard about its habit of eating transmissions? Not to mention the fact that it looks like a slug with downs-syndrome.

[MYDWAGON]

http://www.fordvehicles.com/thetruthabouttrucks/

[yoogene83]

If you need a real work truck buy American. Their cars leave a lot to desire but nobody builds a pickup like America does. Do yourself a favor and check out the new F150, Silverado, and Ram.

The Honda isn't even a truck. Hell, the thing is on the Accord chassis. And the Tundra is a POS. Have you guys not heard about its habit of eating transmissions? Not to mention the fact that it looks like a slug with downs-syndrome.

I'm not all about the Ridgeline either; the car...er truck looks like a half-breed of an Avalanche, which is another confused vehicle as well.

Like you said, for a full on work truck, go American. The shit you can pile up and tow with those are shit hot. If i needed a truck for that kinda work, i'd DEFINITELY pick up a Dodge 1500 Cummins TurboDiesel. The new ones make some silly torque and combine great power with decent gas mileage as they break in.

But, since we don't know the OP's needs in a truck, all we can throw out are opinions. I personally love the newer Tacomas and will rock one when my '97 4runner dies. The transmissions are the weakest points in the automatic Toyota trucks, but hell, mine's lasted 230k+ miles and it's still running strong with routine transmission oil changes. I'm just pushing for 300k miles!

[Wyo_A4]

Titans are really nice, my uncle has one and it's a lot better than his old 2500 crew cab chevy.

It all depends on what you need though, for towing i'd get a newer dodge with the cummins or a ford power stroke. My dad has an f350 for his work truck and it's super nice, 6 speed manual, tons of torque, but not very comfortable for long trips and it's massive.

[RocketSurgeon]

I'm not all about the Ridgeline either; the car...er truck looks like a half-breed of an Avalanche, which is another confused vehicle as well.

Like you said, for a full on work truck, go American. The shit you can pile up and tow with those are shit hot. If i needed a truck for that kinda work, i'd DEFINITELY pick up a Dodge 1500 Cummins TurboDiesel. The new ones make some silly torque and combine great power with decent gas mileage as they break in.

But, since we don't know the OP's needs in a truck, all we can throw out are opinions. I personally love the newer Tacomas and will rock one when my '97 4runner dies. The transmissions are the weakest points in the automatic Toyota trucks, but hell, mine's lasted 230k+ miles and it's still running strong with routine transmission oil changes. I'm just pushing for 300k miles!

I've got nothing against Tacos, they are very capable and very reliable machines. If I didn't need the full-size bed in my work truck ('97 F150. 120k and never given me a single problem) I would actually probably have one. I just don't like the new Tundras.

[MacDaddy]

ford truck with a gas engine, stay the hell away from the diesels, use just as much or more fuel as a gas (not to mention diesel costs more than gas) but the biggest thing is maintenance is much more costly on a diesel (parts, labour, more frequent oil changes)

reason for getting a ford? Heavy duty axles, and suspension. The trucks can take a real shit beating (why do you think all heavy duty construction companaies use F-350's, its because the employees rat-bag them and they still work)

Toyota trucks, I wouldn't trust them, too new and everything they make is really economized, they are doomed to be the next GM, mark my words.

[MacDaddy]

oh yeah, and there is always:

[sean1.8t]

reason for getting a ford? Heavy duty axles, and suspension. The trucks can take a real shit beating (why do you think all heavy duty construction companaies use F-350's, its because the employees rat-bag them and they still work)

truth!

the ski resort i work for use ford as their choice of truck. the one i drove around my first summer was a 93 F250 crew cab with the gas V8. that thing took a fucking beating and kept on going. like holy hell. it had 240,000 miles on it, mountain miles too. we would drive it up/down crazy hills. through ditches. over extremely ruff terrain. and had it airborn a few times

good times in that thing. after that i've been a ford man

[MYDWAGON]

ford truck with a gas engine, stay the hell away from the diesels, use just as much or more fuel as a gas (not to mention diesel costs more than gas) but the biggest thing is maintenance is much more costly on a diesel (parts, labour, more frequent oil changes)
.

Diesels hold their value better than gas.If you tow the the gas's economy will go to hell.As far as oil changes go you can get an add on filter and do extended drains.The oil change is as frequent as a gasser.The only other maintenance on a diesel is the fuel filter.Diesel also gets better mpg than a gasser.My Ford diesel has over 400k on it

[pyro]

cant beat a ford truck.
its all i will ever buy.

[FITZ TITS]

It will be used as a work truck. Clearing out homes, trash removal, snow removal (plow), hauling lawn equipment, trailoring, etc...

Also lets keep talking about diesel gas. I will be putting a lot of miles on the truck going from site to site and state to state.

[FITZ TITS]

Can we also keep talking about turbo diesels vs gas?

[MYDWAGON]

Advantage of a diesel in your situation is if you put a auxiliary tank in the bed you can fill skidsteers and your own truck.You'll want a one ton(it's better for tax reasons also).Here is a good article to read.They don't address resale though.When I had 180k on mine I did a some rough figuring on my diesel compared to gas if I sold it.With mileage/maintenance/resale etc.I would have come out $18k ahead with a diesel.
http://www.worktruckonline.com/Artic...vs-Diesel.aspx

[Jdubya]

I had an 00 Ford Lightning for a while. It was a blast to drive and could tow a decent amount too. Supercharged V8 FTW!





Look for a Harley Davidson truck if you want 4 doors. Same motor.

[pyro]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Super_Duty

[FITZ TITS]

I had an 00 Ford Lightning for a while. It was a blast to drive and could tow a decent amount too. Supercharged V8 FTW!





Look for a Harley Davidson truck if you want 4 doors. Same motor.

I can't take that on site.

[FLACO X3]

If you need a real work truck buy American. Their cars leave a lot to desire but nobody builds a pickup like America does. Do yourself a favor and check out the new F150, Silverado, and Ram.

The Honda isn't even a truck. Hell, the thing is on the Accord chassis. And the Tundra is a POS. Have you guys not heard about its habit of eating transmissions? Not to mention the fact that it looks like a slug with downs-syndrome.

2009 Dodge Ram 1500. if you still want some luxuries get the Laramie. Heated and cooled seats, nav, sat, heated steering wheels, leather seats and a lot of room. 5.7L V8 HEMI. Coil rear suspension (instead of leaf). Rides better then my A4. wireless internet, ect.

if you need a diesel, Cummins hands down. get the 5.9L though. The new 6.1L has a lot of emmision issues.
i work for a Dodge dealership . Only thing i like about the Toyota is the large buttons asd knobs so you keep your work gloves on. I also worked at a Toyota dealer.

I assume the truck is for construction or something related.

[FLACO X3]

I had an 00 Ford Lightning for a while. It was a blast to drive and could tow a decent amount too. Supercharged V8 FTW!





Look for a Harley Davidson truck if you want 4 doors. Same motor.

two of my friends in high school had one. One was all stock and the other was heavily moddified. i loved those trucks but couldnt get past the shity ass interior. nothing fit right. Another friend had a Harley Davidson truck. much better then the Lightning interior, but the Lightning is a better looking truck on the outside.

[ProOnThaSnow]

The first question should be how much are you looking to spend?

Second, do you need something with towing power/massive torque? Diesels are great and all, but I am glad I didn't buy one when I was in the market for a truck.

1; Diesel will gel at low temps, how cold does it get in your climate? You may have to add cetane booster to prevent this from happening, at $15/half gal.

2; Diesel now with the new emission standards is and will continue to be more expensive than petroleum.

3; You are going to need a block heater if its cold an you ever want the ****** to start.

4; Oil Changes cost a shit load, you're looking at anywhere between 8 and 15 quarts of oil depending on what vehicle platform you buy.

The nice thing is though, they can typically tow a damn house of its foundation, get fairly good mileage (but you aren't really saving vs a gasser because of higher fuel prices).

If you're looking to spend a good amount of money, I'd suggest a new Toyota Tundra. They're sweet, have Nav, leather, all the options. They're powerhouses, and I have been more than impressed with the ones I test drove, and the one my buddy just bought. I personally would have bought one ina crew cab, if it weren't for the miles I put on (over 6,000 this month already and I still have an 800 mile trip home).

If you're looking for something a little older and cheaper, go with a Chevy. the 350 Engine has been around forever, parts are relatively cheap, and they're reliable as can be. Even the trucks that are only a few years old can be great, my boss' '05 with a 5.3 in it has 167K on it now and he hasn't had a problem (other than VSS just recently taking a shit) with the truck. I wouldn't recommend a Dodge, unless you enjoy a hemorrhoid giving ride, and Fords don't ride much better. If you get a Diesel, get a Duramax, not as reliable as a Cummins IMO, but the truck rides 1000 times better. I would advise against the Powerstrokes, as every one of my friends with one thats newer than a 97 (the old 7.3's are good, but not very powerful) has had gobs of issues with them. The newest ones are a joke, get horrible mileage, and one of the guys who I work with has his truck in the shop more than its on the road.

[MYDWAGON]

The first question should be how much are you looking to spend?

Second, do you need something with towing power/massive torque? Diesels are great and all, but I am glad I didn't buy one when I was in the market for a truck.

1; Diesel will gel at low temps, how cold does it get in your climate? You may have to add cetane booster to prevent this from happening, at $15/half gal.

2; Diesel now with the new emission standards is and will continue to be more expensive than petroleum.

3; You are going to need a block heater if its cold an you ever want the ****** to start.

4; Oil Changes cost a shit load, you're looking at anywhere between 8 and 15 quarts of oil depending on what vehicle platform you buy.

The nice thing is though, they can typically tow a damn house of its foundation, get fairly good mileage (but you aren't really saving vs a gasser because of higher fuel prices).

If you're looking to spend a good amount of money, I'd suggest a new Toyota Tundra. They're sweet, have Nav, leather, all the options. They're powerhouses, and I have been more than impressed with the ones I test drove, and the one my buddy just bought. I personally would have bought one ina crew cab, if it weren't for the miles I put on (over 6,000 this month already and I still have an 800 mile trip home).

If you're looking for something a little older and cheaper, go with a Chevy. the 350 Engine has been around forever, parts are relatively cheap, and they're reliable as can be. Even the trucks that are only a few years old can be great, my boss' '05 with a 5.3 in it has 167K on it now and he hasn't had a problem (other than VSS just recently taking a shit) with the truck. I wouldn't recommend a Dodge, unless you enjoy a hemorrhoid giving ride, and Fords don't ride much better. If you get a Diesel, get a Duramax, not as reliable as a Cummins IMO, but the truck rides 1000 times better. I would advise against the Powerstrokes, as every one of my friends with one thats newer than a 97 (the old 7.3's are good, but not very powerful) has had gobs of issues with them. The newest ones are a joke, get horrible mileage, and one of the guys who I work with has his truck in the shop more than its on the road.

I love how people like you say how Powerstrokes are garbage and yet they still out sell Cummins and Duramax combined.The 6.0 was trouble but thats no longer.I have over 400k on mine.I never had fuel gel.I never had to plug it in.Oil changes don't have to be expensive if you set yourself up for extended drain.I tow 15k constantly and my truck has lasted.You can find horror stories about any brand.I f your friends truck is in the shop more than on the road why isn't he smart enough to do a lemon law on it.

[sean1.8t]

^agreed

my dad's powerstroke has had no real problems other than maintenence in it's 100k on the road, usually towing/hauling something. and it get's damn cold here. with it plugged in or not, it starts right up. just let the glowplugs do their thing.

and the new 6.4L trucks are rediculously superior to his. if i was going to get a diesel, it would be a powerstroke

[JetBlue]

All of the new American trucks are really nice. I have an 06' F150 and it has been bullet proof. Do not buy a Ridgeline unless you are getting it for your 16 year old ballet dancing son. Tundra's are ugly as sin, but solid trucks. I cannot take the interior of the Nissan products. You will want to gouge your eyes out with a screw driver after 5 minutes in that thing.

[sean1.8t]

All of the new American trucks are really nice. I have an 06' F150 and it has been bullet proof. Do not buy a Ridgeline unless you are getting it for your 16 year old ballet dancing son. Tundra's are ugly as sin, but solid trucks. I cannot take the interior of the Nissan products. You will want to gouge your eyes out with a screw driver after 5 minutes in that thing.

looks are purely to each their own. that's not part of this discusion.

i like the looks of the Dodge over the Ford, but if i was to get a truck that could do the most, it would be the ford.

[sambrody44]

mmmmm

[sean1.8t]

^fucking powerhouse!

but i just like the dodge overall look

mmmmmmmm

[sambrody44]

The new Dodges have a grille that tilts forward, I really don't like that.

[LampyB]

i've driven the crap out of the F150, 250, and 350 turbo diesel...cross country with a trailer, and up and down all of the ski resort mtns out here in colorado, vail breck copper etc. my recommendation is to go with Ford or Toyota, don't even consider the rest ;)

if you plan on hauling heavy loads frequently, the F150 will take a beating. If this is the case go with an F250+. chips are available for the turbo diesels, and you'll be able to add a ridiculous amount of power if you want. our 250 was chipped and with a 5000lb trailer the truck accelerated at nearly the same pace as my stage 1+ A4...pretty crazy!

[festerfm]

I had an 00 Ford Lightning for a while. It was a blast to drive and could tow a decent amount too. Supercharged V8 FTW!





Look for a Harley Davidson truck if you want 4 doors. Same motor.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...150_183157.htm

everything is good... except when he realizes it's not british.. being an avid C&D reader, and MT, you cant go wrong w/ a tacoma... i personally like the supercharged nissan frontier of like 2001-02.. it might have been made more years but i like the supercharged frontier.. moddable w/ the supercharger, and 4wd, stick shift.. 4 door, it's all good... that or tacoma

[MacDaddy]

Diesels hold their value better than gas.If you tow the the gas's economy will go to hell.As far as oil changes go you can get an add on filter and do extended drains.The oil change is as frequent as a gasser.The only other maintenance on a diesel is the fuel filter.Diesel also gets better mpg than a gasser.My Ford diesel has over 400k on it

if you get a 7.3 your fine, 6.0L had all kinds of problems, and the 6.4 guzzles fuel like nobodys business, it will use more fuel than a gas regardless of what you do with it.
especially if all hes towing is a little lawn trailer, the extra "towing power" of a diesel won't be needed because his trailier will only weigh in at 1000lbs if that.

[MYDWAGON]

if you get a 7.3 your fine, 6.0L had all kinds of problems, and the 6.4 guzzles fuel like nobodys business, it will use more fuel than a gas regardless of what you do with it.
especially if all hes towing is a little lawn trailer, the extra "towing power" of a diesel won't be needed because his trailier will only weigh in at 1000lbs if that.

I guess you own a 6.4.I know plenty getting great fuel mileage.Just like any new American diesel engine you don't want the first year.The way things are going Ford might be the only brand left.If he's going to plow then he may have a salt spreader or a bobcat.There is over 1k.