B7 S4 Vs. 335xi

[B6JoeS4]

Ok so my friend kevin is getting his first car soon and for a long time he had his heart set on getting a B7 S4. Now, he has found out that getting a 335xi and chipping it, the BMW will be faster than the S4. I have heard of some 335's getting into the 375hp range with only a chip.

help me convince him why the s4 is the better car.

[MikeWasHere05]

Live in an area with snow and plan on driving it through aforementioned snow? Quattro > x-drive.

If not, honestly I would probably opt for the 335i personally.

[Syrus5o]

my post is pointless but. 335i or xi please

[OCMI_Teddy]

For his first car he has to choose between a 335xi and a s4? lucky mofo. I'd take the 335xi unless he has to deal with alot of snow, then I would get the S4

[xzone909]

I'd take the s4 cause I-drive is retarded. My dad has a 535xi and it takes 15 or more seconds to change even the most basic things. And the 335xi doesn't have a nice v8 sound and bmw interiors suck, especially the quality of the leather seats. The s4 looks better in my opinion and everyone and their mom has a 335. Furthermore, bmw drivers are dicks.

V8 gas guzzlers all the way!

[cellg8]

i would wait for 09 s4...

[B6JoeS4]

his limit is 35,000 bucks

[B6JoeS4]

his brother has a 2001.5 stage 2+ B5 S4. he wants a car thats faster than his brothers car

[ngng]

first car? that's smart

[s42k5b]

his brother has a 2001.5 stage 2+ B5 S4. he wants a car thats faster than his brothers car

a healthy stage 2 b5 s4 will be faster than most chipped 335's

[wakzak33]

I had the same option, and was debating between the 2. I ended up getting the B6 S4, and honestly I am happy. I like the tone to the engine, and also, it's more fun with many more upgrades available compared to the BMW.

[Stone825]

B5 S4 and 335 both have a "Twin Turbo" V6. If he is looking to get more looks on the car then I'd go for a S4. A chip on the 335 does add an additional 70hp and easily an equal amount or more tq because of the turbos.

Edit: Also there are more Audi S4 tuners. For example if he's crazy enough and has enough money he can supercharge the S4. You can upgrade the turbos on the 335 but it will probably cost more as they are not as much of a "tuner" car.

[FrimmelNoJerz]

a healthy stage 2 b5 s4 will be faster than most chipped 335's

no.

get the s4 because it will be slower and its his first car.

[Auditude2.0T]

1) BMW's are ugly. Bangle sucks at life.
2) I Drive sucks my mom has a X5 it takes 10 minutes to change the radio station, i can't even figure out how to get to the Navigation screen
3) X drive is horrible, if you want 4WD you buy an Audi, if you want 2WD you buy a BMW
4) S4 is more unique and different. I see 3-4 335i a day, i see 1 B7 S4 a month.
5) Audi has a nicer Interior than BMW S4 seats are 1000x times better
6) V8 Sound is more than V6 Sound
7) Turbo's are a pain in the ass
8) BMW drivers have no friends
9) All BMW's come with hair gel dispensers right next to the I Drive lever
10) BMW abbreviated I Drive. The full phrase is actually "I Drive You Crazy"

[Auditude2.0T]

You do the math:

[SebringSilver]

Ok so my friend kevin is getting his first car soon and for a long time he had his heart set on getting a B7 S4. Now, he has found out that getting a 335xi and chipping it, the BMW will be faster than the S4. I have heard of some 335's getting into the 375hp range with only a chip.

help me convince him why the s4 is the better car.

Why do you need to convince him the S4 is the better car? Just let him buy what he wants. What difference does it make? The 335i isn't a bad car at all.

[SleeperAvant]

You do the math:

It's hard to compare a stock 335i to a (what looks like) a heavily modded s4. IMHO I'd take the S4, but I'm biased

[S-Fore]

his brother has a 2001.5 stage 2+ B5 S4. he wants a car thats faster than his brothers car

for $35K EVO, 135i, WRX.

[Audi05s4]

its honestly what ever the kid wants both are great cars the s4 has a far superior all wheel drive system but the 335 is easy to make fast since its a twin turbo but as clarkson says bmw drivers are cocks

[italian a4 1032]

335 is nicer

[s4raf88]

You do the math:

Really lol why would you put up a stock 335i and a modded S4

To the OP compare that S4 to one of these 335i's

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160856

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ght=white+335i

[nimski62]

Here is an idea:

WAIT for the b8 s4.

[Audi0s]

Working at BMW for over 2 years gave me some time to really evaluate. Ready? OK.
The 335i is a great car. With free maintenance and warranty for 50k, you really cant go wrong. I used to get 335 loaners from the dealer I worked at to go to BMW training in Boston alot, and they eat highway miles. I averaged 27mpg over 200 miles on the highway consistently, and this was at speeds well over 80, even had cruise set at 95 for a while. BMWs pack tons of technology into their vehicles, from the dynamic cruise control (it applies the brakes through the cruise lever when slightly slowing, will even put it in a full panic stop without hitting the brakes if you hold it long enough) to the fact that the brake rotors get wiped once the wipers are turned on. The new Idrive is a huge step up from the old style, only comes in 09's, but its a serious rip of the Audi MMI, and soon youi can personalize your home screen from your comp, and it will upload it to the car. With chips, you can see over 400hp easily, but your car can never, ever go in for service and perform any type of diagnostic work. If we find the chip, BMWs coming to look and scan the ECU, and you can bet you ll get a letter saying bye-bye warranty. Believe me, Ive seen it on cars I worked on. Also the cars need to be programmed probably once a year. If a certain module needs programming, lets say the TCU, controls telematics and bluetooth, it will look through the modules in the car and find what else needs to be done, so theyll all be on the same software level. And guess what happens then? Either the chip gets overwritten, 800$ down the drain or itll program and the car wont start! YAY! Also the engineers have figured out a way that the trans can determine the torque output of the motor, if it makes over 400nm, limp mode takes over, check engine flashing, and soon the tow truck will come to take it to the dealer. Ive had these things apart for carbon buildup (stupid people running regular in a turbo motor) to wiring issues, to no crank no start. BMWs are by far the most advanced vehicle, you just need to understand that sometimes new stuff takes time to fix and aquire parts for. Also BMWs goodwill far exceeds other manufacturers. Turbo upgrades are almost non-existent, due to the fact theyre sequential and differently sized. 335s stock are really quick cars, handle amazingly, and stop on a dime, They also ride very rough, crack rims like its their job, have shitty run flat tires that the sport package tears through in like 15000 miles, then costs like 1500 for a new set! (407/ea rear tire plus 50 to install)
K now for the Audi. Softer suspension, badass V-8, much nicer interior, FULL SIZE SPARE!! Shit mileage, but who cares now its only 1.63 by me for super. Understated excellence. If daddys paying for the car, which Im sure he is,get the BMW, Im sure he wont care if his dad gets the bill for cracked rims or a voided warranty. But if he s paying for it, and actually knows the value of a dollar, Id go with the s4. I def made the right choice, leases were about 389mo for a 335xi, but I got my B6s4 for 21. Let us know how it goes

[Charlescrs6]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the coupe 335's only come in i aka no AWD, and the sedan models have the x drive. The coupe 328's however come in AWD.

[Charlescrs6]

Really lol why would you put up a stock 335i and a modded S4

To the OP compare that S4 to one of these 335i's

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160856

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ght=white+335i

Overspun's 335 is F'ing sick!

[Ill 3.0]

AudiOs: Thank you. That was the only intelligent thought out unbiased response ever posted in a 335 vs S4 thread. Ever.

[nimski62]

the fact that the brake rotors get wiped once the wipers are turned on.

Pretty sure my b7 does that =P

[A4A4A4]

Here is an idea:

WAIT for the b8 s4.

He said his budget was $35 000. I think the b8 will be out of his price range.

[cam]

how about a b7 sline 2.0t 6speed. you can easily get one for about 20k otd, n then when the time comes, mods are readily available.

[tadhgbrosnan]

The 335i is a great car. I averaged 27mpg over 200 miles on the highway consistently, and this was at speeds well over 80, even had cruise set at 95 for a while.

I am officially raising the BULLSHIT FLAG on this statement. There is no way that car is average 27mpg over 200 miles if you're doing 80-95mph. No fucking way.

[nimski62]

I just parked next to one today at o'hare airport in chicago... it looked like dog shit compared to my b7 s4 =)

Oh and off the BMWUSA website for the RWD MODEL:
Rear-wheel drive
26 mpg hwy*

Thats doing highway speeds, not 85-90, so that statement WAS bullshit.

[s4raf88]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the coupe 335's only come in i aka no AWD, and the sedan models have the x drive. The coupe 328's however come in AWD.

Nope your wrong they come in 335xi coupe, I think they started in 08.

[mbgt72]

I am officially raising the BULLSHIT FLAG on this statement. There is no way that car is average 27mpg over 200 miles if you're doing 80-95mph. No fucking way.

I understand it's not the same, and prob not direct comparison, but BMW does tend to almost lowball their MGP. I had a E46 325ci and I could honsetly get about 28mpg around 90mph with cruise on; at 75mph I got around 32mpg. Although BMW website quoted my model to only get about 28mpg highway. If I'm not mistaken, I was told once that they often set their standards with a full tank of gas and a all seats occupied (i.e. for my car 4 people in the car). But, yes, that does seem a bit high.

[Charlescrs6]

Nope your wrong they come in 335xi coupe, I think they started in 08.

wow good to know. thanks

[FastB7S4]

Would a Dinan chip void warranty? My sister-in-law's fiance is the shop foreman at a BMW dealer in San Diego and they have a 335i sedan that is all Dinan'ed out.

[s4raf88]

Would a Dinan chip void warranty? My sister-in-law's fiance is the shop foreman at a BMW dealer in San Diego and they have a 335i sedan that is all Dinan'ed out.

Yeah I was about to say I remember reading somewhere that BMW dealers not all but some have some kind of partnership with Dinan, like some Audi dealerships have with Stasis. They said as long as you get the Bimmer parts from them it wont void it. But I'm not sure.

[UnkleGatsby]

For his first car he has to choose between a 335xi and a s4? lucky mofo. I'd take the 335xi unless he has to deal with alot of snow, then I would get the S4

you mean, "he gets too chose between a 335xi or S4" not has to.

[italian a4 1032]

Would a Dinan chip void warranty? My sister-in-law's fiance is the shop foreman at a BMW dealer in San Diego and they have a 335i sedan that is all Dinan'ed out.

I'm not positive but i thought i read on a bmw forum that they started to void warranties with dinan ecu reflashes

[Cecchini]

They are both sweet cars. I would have taken either one for a first car but if this is going to be in the snow i would take the s4 over it. s4 is also going to be a care that you see much less often. But that comment about Clarkson.. He now says that Audi drivers are the cocks. Being an Audi driver I was sad to hear that but what can you do?

[S|Quattro|4]

I am officially raising the BULLSHIT FLAG on this statement. There is no way that car is average 27mpg over 200 miles if you're doing 80-95mph. No fucking way.

I got 28 doing 90-100 on my 400 mile road trip.