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    Established Member Two Rings deaner1979's Avatar
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    Please Help, serious damage !!

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    Went to get my oil changed and this is what happend.... they said there not liable cause its "lowered" they said they knew it was lowered from the "shocker sticker" on the back, even though the dealer told them...hit the yellow guard around the pit, now they claim I wasnt even there !!!! ....(little do they know I work for an insurance co.).....

    Bolt is sheared off, half is in the car still....

    can anyone tell me how much to fix and how bad this is??? I will be in a long battle it seems like !!

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    Senior Member Three Rings blackbox619's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    even though im thinking about $400 but dont pay, write the general manager a letter saying that the technicians damaged your car because you just wanted an oil change. its their carelessness that caused it. dont settle for less with them, take it higher! good luck.
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    Established Member Two Rings deaner1979's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    Im not driving it, couldnt take the chance of damaging anything from a result.... I really dont know how bad it is....need some advise.... drive?? dont drive??

    there idoits over there, there now denying the car was even there, dealing with the vp's is BS as they tell me there franchises...... I work for one of the largest insurers and I know they are Liable for Property damage !!!!!! its just going to take time, after numerous letters and calls they will not give up there insurance info, might have to resort to claming and letting the insurance company take them to collections....
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    Veteran Member Four Rings onceover's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    Their
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    get it right

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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4 TSCHUSS's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    That isnt a big deal, you can drive with it like that forever.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings aaronz's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    Find out what company is underwriting their business and file a claim (Or try to, it is hit or miss if non-policy holders can file claims. Company dependent). The guys at the shop aren't going to do anything for you, the business owner won't "want" to do anything for you. The guys at corporate don't care to do anything for you.

    Hit up the owners insurance company, start the BBB process and document as you go along. Working for an insurance company, this should all be common sense to you. Trust me I work for the largest :)

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    Veteran Member Four Rings lookaught's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    That should not be a difficult fix. Bear with me because I come from the B5 chassis but that looks like one of the two smaller bolts that holds the subframe to the unit. The largest of those three bolts is the weight bearing bolt, the other two are not (this is the one you broke). IIRC the torque value for those bolts is under 50 ft/lb, and the head is sheared.

    It is safe to drive. Get it the hell away from that shop and do the following (either DIY or an indie shop). Mark the center of the bolt with a center punch and drill what is left of the bolt all of the way through starting with the smallest bit that is reasonable and working your way up to the largest that doesnt encroach on the threads. Once it is drilled all of the way through then use a high quality extractor (don't cheap out here, quality extractor bits are crucial). It should be no problem to get that out, I've done it many, many times. Once out, use a jack to support the subframe (very important, its heavy afterall), replace the aluminum piece and the bolts, torque to spec, and you're done.

    Do NOT accept anything less than full reimbursement for this repair. The shop knew your car was lowered and chose to accept the work, they are liable for the damage. I would not let them touch the car to try to fix it, just take it to a reputable indie shop and pay them to remove and replace it the proper way. Just don't let them try to weasel out of the bill, they know they are at fault and just like every other shop in the world they will try to blame anyone but themselves, but it is definitely their responsibility. If they still won't pay threaten to file a civil complaint, call the BBB, and ultimately go to court if needed.

    Good Luck!


    EDIT: I just looked at the third pic, that looks like the trans mount, damn that's a big piece of aluminum. I would probably file an insurance claim, because that's going to be an expensive part. If you aren't comfortable doing DIY's, take it to a shop for the fix, you'll need a transmission jack to support it while that piece is replaced (I thought it was just a plate). I imagine the insurance company will go after the shop for this. Document everything in writing, including follow up phone calls, etc. Just restate everything that you talk about and fax it or mail it to the shop (or both), this will be your evidence. Restate what the shop told you and send them a copy.

    And next time, change your own damn oil and you won't have this problem!!
    Last edited by lookaught; 12-26-2008 at 07:17 AM.
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    Established Member Two Rings deaner1979's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    I held out on the insurance claim, and faught with corporate, thier adjuster saw my car after numerous letter from the francise owner saying my car was like that, I did it myself and its modified...

    they gave in and are paying for the whole repair !!!!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings OneBadAudi's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    This is why i do my own oil changes, i dont trust people playing with my undercarriage..hehe
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    Veteran Member Four Rings lookaught's Avatar
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    Re: Please Help, serious damage !!

    Good work! Im glad to hear that they owned up to the mistake.
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    Established Member Two Rings Hanksta69's Avatar
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    thats jiffy lube for you! get some rhino ramps from pep boys and do your own oil! its so easy a caveman could do it! good to hear you won the case btw!

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    I was actually driving WITHOUT ONE... for a short period of time.

    Not really good for the car but nothing serious will happen. If you are worried just scoop up new one from junk yard.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ocod's Avatar
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    couldn't find what I was looking for but this is the idea. Change oil from above by sucking oil from pan through dip stick. You can change the filter from above if you move the reservor tank.

    http://www.westmarine.com/1/1/27189-...om-jabsco.html

    edit:

    Quote Originally Posted by S4J View Post
    Hi All,

    I changed my oil and filter this morning. It took me 17 minutes with my larger capacity Pela Pro 14 oil extractor (I sold my smaller one to a friend).

    I though I'd share the products I used for those interested…

    The extractor is extremely easy to use (make sure the oil is warm, not hot). Just push the correct sized tube (you get three) down the dip-stick hole to the bottom and pump the handle a few times to create a vacuum. The tubes they provide aren’t quite long enough so you’ll have to raise the extractor off the groung a bit by placing it on a box or something. I use a plastic milk crate. While the oil is extracting I replace the oil filter. The filter is located on top of the engine, under the trim cover with the Audi logo, at the rear. You’ll see a black plastic domed cover with a plastic nut molded into the top…the filter is inside.

    NEW- PELA PRO 14 LITER OIL EXTRACTOR

    $109 Shipped from http://www.eAngler.com


    OLD- PELA EXTRACTOR $79 from Griot’s Garage (fine for my Z, but too small for the S4)


    Hope this helps, have a good one…Steve
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    hope you learn by not going to those type oil change place. i learned my lesson when they didn't put my belly pan cover the right way and never since will take my car for an oil change unless its a trusted indy shop.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings alexza4's Avatar
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    glad it worked out for you OP. I never ever go to this quick oil change places after the Jiffy Lube almost killed the motor on my old 540. Moron technician decided to reuse the old gasket in the oil filter canister and ofcourse the oil was spraying out all over the place. I didn't notice until the low oil warning came on the dash next day... took the car back and threw a fit at the manager, they ended up re-doing ofcourse, plus paying for a full detail of the engine bay and outside. i swear they just pick people right off street to work in those places...
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    Registered User Four Rings greg@podi.ca's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by deaner1979 View Post
    Audi Driver 1, Shim Sham Lube Place 0
    Glad it worked out for you...but to be honest, why are you taking your Audi to 'shim sham lube places' anyway?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Elliott's Avatar
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    Maybe I missed something... but how did they manage to do that exactly? Were they joy riding and hit something in the ground?
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    thats why i do my own oil changes in my drive way and dont let anyone touch my car unless its my mechanic

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