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    Veteran Member Three Rings 04Ultrasprt's Avatar
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    What the flutter dump?

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    So I was out driving tonight when my car started to have a little bit of compressor surge. I was pretty pissed and knew the potential consequences of hurting my turbo, so I just kept it below 3k rpm and brought it right home and parked it in the garage. It sounds kind of like this WRX:

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ump_151792.htm

    and not to far off from this:

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...rge_199965.htm

    I pulled out the stock DV and it appears to not have any tears in the diaphragm, then I took out the Forge spacer and just put back the stock DV without the spacer and I was still getting the compressor surge when lifting off the throttle. It holds the boost well, but once I get off the throttle you get that lovely sound.

    I dont need to drive my car for the next few days because of the holidays, so I have time to order the right parts and get it taken care of. The spacer although sounds cool, is really useless, so I wont be putting that back on. I was thinking of just ordering the oem "g" valve from ecs tuning and see what that does, any other suggestions on what could be causing this and how to fix it?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Slo.Mo.Shun.'s Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    I get that sound even on stock mode, it just depends how you let go of the gas.
    -Unitronics Stage 2+ ECU/TCU tune.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings KarimS3's Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    I get it too and i'm glad this thread was made. Is this flutter really compressor surge?
    my car is an 07 and stock. Thanks

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    I get that sound even on stock mode, it just depends how you let go of the gas.
    The only time it doesnt make this noise is when I'm making minimal boost. Shifting gears at anything over 2500rpm or just letting off the gas and its there.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 04Ultrasprt's Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    ok so since I was getting much of a response I went out and made some quick videos tonight. It sounds much louder in person, but the mic on my camera isnt the best. and yes, I know that my brake light is out, the light went on when I was pulling out of my garage tonight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru82GIN7etU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbD1Q0Z5pYw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb4e69WrGdk
    Last edited by 04Ultrasprt; 12-23-2008 at 06:56 PM.

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    B6 Nogaro S4 - B5 S4 Stage II - B7 A4 2.0T K04 - B6 A4 1.8T USP
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Maybe your DV has gone bad? PCV maybe?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings 04Ultrasprt's Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    yea, checked the DV and it looked ok but just to be sure I ordered a new "G" valve off ecstuning which should be here tomorrow. hopefully thatll fix it but we will see

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Sounds like the wastegate to me?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Slo.Mo.Shun.'s Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    That sounds pretty much like mine has done forever.
    -Unitronics Stage 2+ ECU/TCU tune.
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    That sounds pretty much like mine has done forever.
    You might want to get that checked out buddy, and yes the noise is compressor surge. I swapped out the DV and no change, drove it for a couple weeks and the noise didnt bother me, but when my little sis and several friends asked what was wrong with my car I looked into it more.

    I didnt have any signs of PCV failure or atleast I thought, mpg was OK but not great, oil cap was easy to remove with car running, boost was in OK range, and no oil around cap. But then again I had just got the car and wasnt familar with the right mpg, I didnt get a boost gauge installed until last week, and the car only started the noise the week after I got it.

    The other night I did some WOT runs down the highway and when I got home I did the regular under the hood inspection and found oil around the cap. I went in and ordered the Euroject PCV fix, now the noise is gone, boost holds ~2psi higher and for longer and the car feels a hell of a lot faster. I'm just glad that I dont have any more terradactyl's under my hood

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Ultrasprt View Post
    I went in and ordered the Euroject PCV fix, now the noise is gone, boost holds ~2psi higher and for longer and the car feels a hell of a lot faster. I'm just glad that I dont have any more terradactyl's under my hood
    what are you boosting at now?

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    That sounds pretty much like mine has done forever.
    Check the cap on the Forge DV. I got all kinds of flutter when the cap was loose!

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    I am spiking to as high as 23 and holding 18+

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    I had the "flutter dump" a little while ago with my car- yes it's your DV that went bad, get it replaced ASAP!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 04Ultrasprt's Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by INTEGRATION View Post
    I had the "flutter dump" a little while ago with my car- yes it's your DV that went bad, get it replaced ASAP!
    No it wasnt, changed it out and it still was there, it was the pcv.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Geoffafa's Avatar
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    That sounds pretty much like mine has done forever.
    your such a worry wart bro, your car is fine, its that supermassive HKS BOV making that sound... lol


    oh BTW we need to fuck with my DV again, it started doing the whole getting stuck bullshit

    we need better lube >.<
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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Ultrasprt View Post
    No it wasnt, changed it out and it still was there, it was the pcv.
    weird, it was the DV when it happened to mine... my PCV got replaced once already...

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    Re: What the flutter dump?

    flutter dump and compressor surge is bad. not normal at all.

    commonly a dv, pcv, or a boost/vac leak.

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