Difference between this two Blizzak LM25 tires?

[EUROTEK//S4]

What is the difference between this two Blizzak LM25 tires?


Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25
Size: 225/45R17
Serv. Desc: 94V
Load Range XL
UTQG: None
Price: $155.00 (each)

Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25
Size: 225/45R17
Serv. Desc: 91H
UTQG: None
Price: $147.00 (each)

[Rajan147]

94 - Load index(670kg/tire)
91- Load index(615kg/tire)
H- Speed rating 130mph
V- speed rating 149mph

i have ws50's on my car right now and they are 91H load and speed.

The second one you posted will suffice.

[S4 Dan]

for the extra 32 bucks, id do the top ones... chances are you may not need the extra speed rating, and you wont need the weight rating... but its only 32 bucks... what happens if you wanna hit 150 with 3 fat passengers? then your out of luck, haha

[Rajan147]

for the extra 32 bucks, id do the top ones... chances are you may not need the extra speed rating, and you wont need the weight rating... but its only 32 bucks... what happens if you wanna hit 150 with 3 fat passengers? then your out of luck, haha

touche

[MacDaddy]

the s4 is suppose to have 94V.

I went for 94H, good to 210km/h which is the fastest i have ever been in the S4, it gets kinda hairy around 160km/h+ and i don't intend on going 240 in this thing.

[MacDaddy]

oh yeah, blizzacks suck, get nokians.

[espo4442]

oh yeah, blizzacks suck, get nokians.

How do blizzaks suck? I'd have to say given the right tire for your correct climate (precip, temp, road conditions). They are the best winter tire you can buy

[DarkcydS4]

try looking at the blizzak ws-60...speed rating is way low but since your in the midwest with me you might enjoy them a lot. They are studless snow/ice tires. Have them on the S and on the wife's GTI.

[onemoremile]

High speeds on snow tires is a bad idea all the way around. Soft treads with lots of sipes and voids tend to feel very unstable and sometime unbalanced past freeway speeds.

If you've got a clear enough road to hit high speeds in the winter then you'll also be putting a lot of heat into tires that really don't like that. The road temp would have to be well above freezing since nobody here is reckless enough to hit 130+ on roads that could have black ice, or are they?

[MacDaddy]

How do blizzaks suck? I'd have to say given the right tire for your correct climate (precip, temp, road conditions). They are the best winter tire you can buy

think about it, blizzacks are made in japan with winters about as harsh as the west coast of north America, Nokians are made in finland, north of the arctic circle. That alone separates the boys from the men, you wouldn't buy a snow tire developed in arizona would you?

I've used the blizzacks before personally, they only griped in powder (which most all seasons do fine at anyway) had no grip on ice and can't deal with slush. I've recently purchased a set of nokian WRG2's after it (the brand) was recommended by several people living in northern Canada, and my friend got a set with his late X5. I wish i had known about these tires before money was wasted on those Blizzacks.

so basically to recap, yes the blizzacks do perform ok in a very specific setting, but the Nokians perform well in all snow conditions. Its like the differance between a single weight oil and a multigrade.

[1997gtx]

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[Rajan147]

think about it, blizzacks are made in japan with winters about as harsh as the west coast of north America, Nokians are made in finland, north of the arctic circle. That alone separates the boys from the men, you wouldn't buy a snow tire developed in arizona would you?

I've used the blizzacks before personally, they only griped in powder (which most all seasons do fine at anyway) had no grip on ice and can't deal with slush. I've recently purchased a set of nokian WRG2's after it (the brand) was recommended by several people living in northern Canada, and my friend got a set with his late X5. I wish i had known about these tires before money was wasted on those Blizzacks.

so basically to recap, yes the blizzacks do perform ok in a very specific setting, but the Nokians perform well in all snow conditions. Its like the differance between a single weight oil and a multigrade.

I would say the research and development of the product is more important than the location of production.

But how does the wear of the Nokian compare to that of blizzaks?

[EUROTEK//S4]

think about it, blizzacks are made in japan with winters about as harsh as the west coast of north America, Nokians are made in finland, north of the arctic circle. That alone separates the boys from the men, you wouldn't buy a snow tire developed in arizona would you?

I've used the blizzacks before personally, they only griped in powder (which most all seasons do fine at anyway) had no grip on ice and can't deal with slush. I've recently purchased a set of nokian WRG2's after it (the brand) was recommended by several people living in northern Canada, and my friend got a set with his late X5. I wish i had known about these tires before money was wasted on those Blizzacks.

so basically to recap, yes the blizzacks do perform ok in a very specific setting, but the Nokians perform well in all snow conditions. Its like the differance between a single weight oil and a multigrade.

Thanks! I will look into it....how much do they go for ? any good websites to buy from ? i dont think tirerack has them...

[Rajan147]

Thanks! I will look into it....how much do they go for ? any good websites to buy from ? i dont think tirerack has them...

I would just buy adams set, probably exactly what you need at a 1/3 of the price.

[1997gtx]

I would just buy adams set, probably exactly what you need at a 1/3 of the price.

x infinty ... Besides, my dunlops are better tires =)

[espo4442]

think about it, blizzacks are made in japan with winters about as harsh as the west coast of north America, Nokians are made in finland, north of the arctic circle. That alone separates the boys from the men, you wouldn't buy a snow tire developed in arizona would you?

I've used the blizzacks before personally, they only griped in powder (which most all seasons do fine at anyway) had no grip on ice and can't deal with slush. I've recently purchased a set of nokian WRG2's after it (the brand) was recommended by several people living in northern Canada, and my friend got a set with his late X5. I wish i had known about these tires before money was wasted on those Blizzacks.

so basically to recap, yes the blizzacks do perform ok in a very specific setting, but the Nokians perform well in all snow conditions. Its like the differance between a single weight oil and a multigrade.

I'd be willing to beat that the tires had more extensive research and development than your basic winter found in japan. Think about it there is a reason why blizzaks are ranked near the top. I cant make arguments against Nokians, in which they might very well be good tires, but from my experience blizzaks have been awesome on both the snow and ice for me.

[Daft]

I recently made this buying decision and I'd like to share some info on the main difference between the two models.

While the 94V is a higher speed and load rating, this results in a much firmer sidewall. As a result of the firmer sidewall, this tire will give a harsher ride over bumps and pavement seems. It will also apply more force to the wheel during a hard impact. The higher load rating will also be a bit louder and create some resonating sounds at specific speeds.

The 91H is well within the load rating of the B5 S4 and the H rating is good up to 130MPH.


On my A6, I had the choice of 2 LM25 tires with ratings of 94H and 97V. Since the A6 is heavier, the 94 load rating is the minimum.
I have driven my LM25 94H up to 120MPH so far and they are extremely quiet and safe.

Last year I ran the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D with a load rating of 97V and the ride was very rough over bumps and made much more noise between 80-85MPH. I also ended up with 4 bent wheels at the end of the winter season.

As a few have mentioned, the need for a 149MPH winter tire is pretty low. 130MPH is a good limit for winter driving. Honestly, the fastest I've ever driven on a highway in 3-4" of snow is about 75MPH so, 130MPH is well within my snow driving needs.

[MacDaddy]

I would say the research and development of the product is more important than the location of production.

But how does the wear of the Nokian compare to that of blizzaks?

part of R&D involves testing, and if you compare weather patterns you will see Finland makes a better test bed than japan.

not sure what your asking in the second question, The nokians i got are their all weather tires (severe service certified all season) so they should last considerably longer than the winter-only blizzacks. Thats right, nokians jack of all trades tire is better than Bridgestone's proprietary winter tire.

[MacDaddy]

. Think about it there is a reason why blizzaks are ranked near the top.

thats the logic i used before taking the plunge, all i can say now is the reason for that is they benefit from a case of being "the emperors new clothes."

Just like the guy who upgrades from a 1988 jalopy of a civic to a 2008 nissan versa, he will tell you the car is great, but we all know (having driven a car that is much better, an audi) that that is simply not true.

[EUROTEK//S4]

I ended up going with brand new Nokian WRG2's 225/45/17 ($877 installed)

a couple questions:

the nokian tires are 94H instead of Audi OE 91H ? is that good or bad for the car ?
also, my traction control light came on after changing all 4 tires ???

[AB18]

I have the ws50s as well, and i love them. Ive used them for years and only have great things to say about them.

[MacDaddy]

I ended up going with brand new Nokian WRG2's 225/45/17 ($877 installed)

a couple questions:

the nokian tires are 94H instead of Audi OE 91H ? is that good or bad for the car ?
also, my traction control light came on after changing all 4 tires ???

higher load rating, nothing to worry about.

if the TC light is on, mabey they damaged one of the wheel speed sensors, does ABS still work?

[EUROTEK//S4]

higher load rating, nothing to worry about.

if the TC light is on, mabey they damaged one of the wheel speed sensors, does ABS still work?

thanks, TC light is off now...

I found out that im leaking windshield washer fluid from somewhere... .....its always something with this f!@$ car!

also, im a little confused about the Nokian WRG2's..on their website they are listed as winter tires, but the guy at the tires shop said they are all-season tires ???? or winter / all- season ??? a tires can not be all-season and winter at the same time ??? ...should of gone with Nokian Hakkapeliitta's