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    Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

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    Hey guys,

    I have done much research via audizine threads in order to get an understanding of what people generally think is a quality suspension set up. I originally was going to buy the Stasis Street Sport with an RS4 rear sway bar. Unfortunately I am not a mechanic and am no technically proficient as many Audizine people are.. Thus i figured, the best set up for me might be this:

    FK KonigSport Coilover System - Non Dampening, BUT it is Adjustable:
    http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...y=Coil%20Overs

    20 MM Rear s4 sway bar


    Please help me out guys. I want to get a good suspension set up, Do
    you guys think this might be the way to go for a n00b such as myself?



    Thank you,
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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    I guarantee you that 99% of the StreetSport owners on here have never touched the dampening (why would you? STaSIS pre-sets them for an optimal performance/ride quality balance) and have touched the height adjustment two or three times at most to dial in a stance, then never touched it again. At least that's just me.

    I'd stil get the RS4 sway over the S4. No difference in installation, but it's thicker and will help with understeer.
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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    I can't give you an opinion on coils, but I agree with Zebman, the RS4 sway bar is awesome.

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    SS here and RS4 swaybar = a dream
    Don't mess with the coils settings, no need to

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    Stasis Motorsports!
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    STaSIS Street Sports with RS4 Rear Sway FTMFW!
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    What do you think of the FK's i linked on my first post? Non dapening but adjustable? they are only 800 some dollars and i hear they are quality. I was at a porsche dealer and their head mechanic told me he recommends them for audis and vdubs.

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    Oh yea, 20 mm sway or the 22mm?? which do you guys run on your cars? Do you think the extra 2 mm really makes a difference?

    The 22 mm is like 50-60 bucks more expensive than the 20.

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    Hothkis S4 Sway kit and Stasis Streetsports..... Sways are awesome and same with the suspension. And this setup will not set you back much.

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    You can check out my car with the streetsports next weekend, I have that with the rs4 rear sway, def get that if you want coilovers. Otherwise I'd get PSS9s or Vogtlands

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    I feel like a broken record, but I have to throw my hat in because of how much I've enjoyed my choice.

    I just went w/ a different Stasis suspension which they call the "Touring" package. It's a spring/shock combo, so it's not height-adjustable. However, it is identical from a performance aspect to the Street Sport coilover setup; in fact, the guy from Stasis I worked with feels the Touring setup offers a better daily-driving ride quality than the coilovers.

    It is definitely more affordable, too; the Touring package runs just $725, so you could get them installed and on the car for the same price as just the parts of the Street Sport setup. It drops the car the perfect amount in my opinion, and it feels like a completely different car from a handling standpoint; no more mushy body roll! Add a sway bar to this, and you're golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebman View Post
    I guarantee you that 99% of the StreetSport owners on here have never touched the dampening (why would you? STaSIS pre-sets them for an optimal performance/ride quality balance) and have touched the height adjustment two or three times at most to dial in a stance, then never touched it again. At least that's just me.
    No offense to you or anyone else, but is exactly why I think coilovers are a waste of time and money. I've been there, done that... never adjusted them.

    B7A4Sport, need to see some updated pics of that setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koby View Post
    No offense to you or anyone else, but is exactly why I think coilovers are a waste of time and money. I've been there, done that... never adjusted them.

    B7A4Sport, need to see some updated pics of that setup!
    Hah, I would've by now but my phone data plan is all F'ed up and I can't send any e-mails or pic messages, plus I'm super lazy when it comes to my digi and pulling pics off it too.

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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    Hey there just wanted to chime in since I have the FK Konigsports... Just to straighten things out, they DO have the ability to adjust the dampening. I have been very happy with the performance of these coilovers, however I would suggest going a different route. Since you live in Pittsburgh, you'll experience some snow and salty roads. The Konigsports are NOT stainless and therefore will have a better chance of rusting. When they rust, you will not be able to adjust them anymore... I wish I had done a little bit more research into these, however it was kind of a spur of the moment decision for me. I had an appointment set up with my shop to do just springs. The day before my appointment I decided I was going to go the coilover route instead and these were the only coilovers my shop had in stock. Like I have said, these provide great performance... Just be weary that they are not stainless. If you want to go the FK route, apparently the FK silverlines are basically the same setup only they ARE stainless steel.

    If I had to do it over again, I probably would have saved up some more for a set of Stasis street sports... I'm pretty sure those are stainless and Stasis seems like that have really done their homework on the B7. Maybe when my FKs rust out, I'll switch it up.

    Edit: the silver line plus x's are the adjustable stainless coilovers.
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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    Quote Originally Posted by Glassnpowder98 View Post
    Hey there just wanted to chime in since I have the FK Konigsports... Just to straighten things out, they DO have the ability to adjust the dampening.
    The OP was looking at the non-adjustable dampening for price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autoverrückt View Post
    The OP was looking at the non-adjustable dampening for price.
    The OP listed the FK KonigSports as the coilover system that he wants...

    Quote Originally Posted by ggg20t
    FK KonigSport Coilover System - Non Dampening, BUT it is Adjustable:
    http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...y=Coil%20Overs
    The only KonigSports on that website ARE adjustable. The two non-adjustable are the silverlines and the high sports... If he's looking for a non-adjustable system, I'd go with the silverlines since they are stainless and will be more resistant to rust. Perhaps he can clear up what exactly it is that he wants?
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    Another vote for Stasis StreetSports and RS4 sway.

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    Yet another vote for the StaSiS SS and RS4 Sway Bar. Simply sublime.

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    I want the Adjustable ones -- non - dampening

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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    I may be the black sheep in this thread but I know there are a few others in the woodwork.

    I have had numerious co setups and spring/shock setups and I think the Stasis as are less than sub par. Frankly it rides like a pogo ball. It's extremely bouncy for a street setup. There a no way in Hell these are staying on the car when my first born rides in the car. All my friends that ride my car ask what kind of torch I used to cut my springs. Just for the record they all track their cars and 2 of them are BMW driving instructors

    Stasis alsorecommends a ride height of 25 1/2 for optimum ride efficiency in the install, website, etc, but the rears only go as high as 25 for me without the perch coming off the collar.

    I called Stasis and they said " we can sell you an attachment if it doesn't go higher than 25 be aide some people experience this problem as well." (btw my spare tire is even out of the trunk to keep weight down)

    Why I need to purchase additional hardware to get my car to their spec with their kit they sold me leaves me dumbfounded!

    Oh and if you don't like the ride height in the rears, have a great time dropping your rear subframe to adjust the height.....very user friendly!

    So my answer is no.....I personally would not touch Stasis ever again!

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    You think any other's would be easier on the rears? They're all in the same place...As far as the bouncy ride goes, maybe you're damping is set wrong. I don't get that feeling at all with mine. The ride on bumpy roads, or the highway or wherever is fine. A little firmer than the shitty stock suspension, but not teeth rattling by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    You think any other's would be easier on the rears? They're all in the same place...As far as the bouncy ride goes, maybe you're damping is set wrong. I don't get that feeling at all with mine. The ride on bumpy roads, or the highway or wherever is fine. A little firmer than the shitty stock suspension, but not teeth rattling by any stretch of the imagination.
    I feel the same way about mine, they aren't bouncy at all and I had the tracksports before that and I'm happy with both.

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    Another satisfied Stasis Street Sports owner here. The ride is firmer, but definitely not bouncy.

    Do it!

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    We've sold many Stasis Street Sports on here and I can sell another! Let me know if you want a quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurotrash8 View Post
    I may be the black sheep in this thread but I know there are a few others in the woodwork.

    I have had numerious co setups and spring/shock setups and I think the Stasis as are less than sub par. Frankly it rides like a pogo ball. It's extremely bouncy for a street setup. There a no way in Hell these are staying on the car when my first born rides in the car. All my friends that ride my car ask what kind of torch I used to cut my springs. Just for the record they all track their cars and 2 of them are BMW driving instructors

    Stasis alsorecommends a ride height of 25 1/2 for optimum ride efficiency in the install, website, etc, but the rears only go as high as 25 for me without the perch coming off the collar.

    I called Stasis and they said " we can sell you an attachment if it doesn't go higher than 25 be aide some people experience this problem as well." (btw my spare tire is even out of the trunk to keep weight down)

    Why I need to purchase additional hardware to get my car to their spec with their kit they sold me leaves me dumbfounded!

    Oh and if you don't like the ride height in the rears, have a great time dropping your rear subframe to adjust the height.....very user friendly!

    So my answer is no.....I personally would not touch Stasis ever again!

    If it rides like a car with cut springs, your damping is far off, or you have multiple defective shocks. Mine rides fine. And yes the rear design wasn't the best idea; the perch could have been on the top of the spring.
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    Tony - I would like a quote man. Thanks a lot

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    Send him a pm.
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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    Quote Originally Posted by ggg20t View Post
    ....I want to get a good suspension set up, Do
    you guys think this might be the way to go for a n00b such as myself?

    Thank you,
    Garrett
    What are you hoping to accomplish with a different suspension? Street or track use and will you want/need to change the settings regulalrly? All weather use or sunny days only which affects how much lowering, if any, you want? How much are you thinking to spend for a suspension?

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    all weather/street use. I live in Pittsburgh PA where it snows/salt. I really don't need a complicated suspension set up, but i do want coilovers that are decently comfortable and that i can change the height on.

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    ^He and I are in the same situation and I'm from Pittsburgh. The SS have worked well for me and I would only consider Pss9's or Vogtlands both of which are more expensive.

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    I've been in a car with PSS9's and the ride felt very similar to my SSS
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    No more help?? I want to know about these FK's:

    The ones that are $807

    http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...ory=Suspension


    I drove an Audi yesterday with Street Sport Stasis last night (Nate Smiths b7 with 20s) and it was heavenly. But i really do not want to spend that kind of cash unless somebody can get me the hook up!

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    Is coilover a must for you? Otherwise you can try shocks/springs combo.
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    CO's are a must!

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    I'll see what I can do and PM you back about the SS

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    Suspension please, hold the Kool-Aid.

    Having BTDT with multiple setups on multiple Audis, including now our B7, I'd rethink your insistance on CO's. Nothing against the Stasis SS's, which are just a well tuned Koni setup, but with the difficulty in changing settings, and the real world against you, you're not really going to be changing ride height once it's set, you're just not. You want comfort and an optimized ride height. You want it to work well in all weather conditions. Get a Koni FSD/Eibach pro-kit, designed to work together, and also with excellent forums feedback, not only on our car, but on this and other forums. Shox.com and other sources. Cheaper, and an excellent balance of comfort and sport, kinda like the car itself.

    If you're looking for adjustability because of looks, can't help you there, it's probably not an optimal ride height just because it looks good, and you don't want camber issues. If you're concerned about ride height because of snow, don't be. Have had multiple A4's and other Audis through all kinds of winter ugliness, and have found that the most important factor by far is the snow tires you're riding on.

    To give you some idea, the Koni FSD/Eibach pro kit has a generally more comfortable ride than the stock suspension, and it's lowered, which should generally worsen the ride. Of course it also has better control of rebound characteristics than the stock suspension. It is slightly lower than the OEM sport suspension, and slightly higher than the H&R setup, which looks good, but some owners have said is a bit too low, especially in back.

    Again, nothing against the Stasis tuning, but you're definitely paying for their name. They're Konis too. If I were going to get Stasis, I'd really get Stasis, and go for one of their higher end kits, which are amazingly well built.

    On your other question, the sway bar, I again opted out of the forum Kool-Aid, and went with the S4 bar. No, I don't think the 2mm different RS4 bar is that much better, but it's not the cost that stopped me. There is a reason that all A4s don't come with the RS4 bar, and that is because they need to perform in all conditions, not just "racing" conditions. In real life, it's not all about "dialing out the understeer". That's what keeps your rear end from coming around. Some of the terrain around Pittsburg is not that different from out here in Oregon, and you would be wise to consider what a stiffer rear end (RS4 style) would do coming around a curve on a snowy hill. Yep, you'll be wishing for a little understeer right about then. I opted on the S4 bar as a happy medium, and haven't been disappointed in the least.

    Lots of good info here on the forum, but just keep in mind that about half of those here in the Land of the Sick and Phat hail from Sunny (earthquaking, mudsliding, smog/housing price/traffic&CHP-choked) Southern Cal, where the breasts are unnaturally large, and many of the brains disappointingly small. (No offense CA, it's just true). Very few people here actually get their "murdered out" fancy suspensioned candy a$$es out on a track. Kudos to those that do.

    Cheers.

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    ^ damn. nice post.

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    Re: Suspension please, hold the Kool-Aid.

    Quote Originally Posted by artinmoTTion View Post
    Having BTDT with multiple setups on multiple Audis, including now our B7, I'd rethink your insistance on CO's. Nothing against the Stasis SS's, which are just a well tuned Koni setup, but with the difficulty in changing settings, and the real world against you, you're not really going to be changing ride height once it's set, you're just not. You want comfort and an optimized ride height. You want it to work well in all weather conditions. Get a Koni FSD/Eibach pro-kit, designed to work together, and also with excellent forums feedback, not only on our car, but on this and other forums. Shox.com and other sources. Cheaper, and an excellent balance of comfort and sport, kinda like the car itself.

    If you're looking for adjustability because of looks, can't help you there, it's probably not an optimal ride height just because it looks good, and you don't want camber issues. If you're concerned about ride height because of snow, don't be. Have had multiple A4's and other Audis through all kinds of winter ugliness, and have found that the most important factor by far is the snow tires you're riding on.

    To give you some idea, the Koni FSD/Eibach pro kit has a generally more comfortable ride than the stock suspension, and it's lowered, which should generally worsen the ride. Of course it also has better control of rebound characteristics than the stock suspension. It is slightly lower than the OEM sport suspension, and slightly higher than the H&R setup, which looks good, but some owners have said is a bit too low, especially in back.

    Again, nothing against the Stasis tuning, but you're definitely paying for their name. They're Konis too. If I were going to get Stasis, I'd really get Stasis, and go for one of their higher end kits, which are amazingly well built.

    On your other question, the sway bar, I again opted out of the forum Kool-Aid, and went with the S4 bar. No, I don't think the 2mm different RS4 bar is that much better, but it's not the cost that stopped me. There is a reason that all A4s don't come with the RS4 bar, and that is because they need to perform in all conditions, not just "racing" conditions. In real life, it's not all about "dialing out the understeer". That's what keeps your rear end from coming around. Some of the terrain around Pittsburg is not that different from out here in Oregon, and you would be wise to consider what a stiffer rear end (RS4 style) would do coming around a curve on a snowy hill. Yep, you'll be wishing for a little understeer right about then. I opted on the S4 bar as a happy medium, and haven't been disappointed in the least.

    Lots of good info here on the forum, but just keep in mind that about half of those here in the Land of the Sick and Phat hail from Sunny (earthquaking, mudsliding, smog/housing price/traffic&CHP-choked) Southern Cal, where the breasts are unnaturally large, and many of the brains disappointingly small. (No offense CA, it's just true). Very few people here actually get their "murdered out" fancy suspensioned candy a$$es out on a track. Kudos to those that do.

    Cheers.
    very well put.


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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    ^ x2, that was a great post.

    The most critical point he emphasized is the one I agree with; you sound like you really don't need coilovers. Find a set of shock/spring combos that lowers the car how much you'd like, and with the money you save you could get a chip, intake, or other mod of that price-range.

    PM Jim@Stasis about the suspension from their Touring package - runs $725, ride quality is better than stock, handling performs WAY better than stock, and lowers the car a tasteful amount w/ a nice stance.

    Here's my ride w/ 'em:



    Sorry for blurs on this one, phone pics fail in the forest:

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    Re: Time to buy suspension!! - - Need input

    Quote Originally Posted by B7A4Sport View Post
    ^ x2, that was a great post.

    The most critical point he emphasized is the one I agree with; you sound like you really don't need coilovers. Find a set of shock/spring combos that lowers the car how much you'd like, and with the money you save you could get a chip, intake, or other mod of that price-range.

    PM Jim@Stasis about the suspension from their Touring package - runs $725, ride quality is better than stock, handling performs WAY better than stock, and lowers the car a tasteful amount w/ a nice stance.

    Here's my ride w/ 'em:
    hmm.. im starting to get the impression that you MUST in some way profit off of advertising this set up... lol

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