My drive home...

[FourRingRider]

On my way home tonight (bout 1AM) I was on I-95 minding my own business and a car with yellow fogs and bright HID's comes rushing up behind me nearly touching my bumper and flashed his lights. I was in the middle lane in the middle of the night with virtually no traffic so I didnt understand why he just didn't pass me... So I brake checked him and he flew around me and stayed next to me like he wanted to race... I immediately thought to myself "LMAO... its a cute little mazda 3 with a fartcan..." So I was like what the hell and gave it a lil throttle to make this guy a spec in my rearview... well I floored it and he ended up pulling on me like an E55...

I caught back up with the guy and told him I wanted to start from a dig on JTB which was a nearby long stretch of hwy with ZERO traffic this late... and we did and again he waxed me by car lengths all the way until I slowed down near 100mph... He then told me he was basically all STOCK, with a mazda turbo... At this point I am dumbfounded. Before he sped off he had the nerve to ask me how I felt buying such an expensive car and getting beat by a mazda?

[SebringSilver]

Is your S4 a Tiptronic or a manual?

Either way though, he's probably BSing about being stock.

Was it a Mazdaspeed 3?

[FourRingRider]

Tiptronic - and was in "S" mode... Based on how his car sounded it had to be stick... and the kid looked like he just turned 16... Just googled mazdaspeed 3, based on the looks it just may have been.

[SebringSilver]

Tiptronic - and was in "S" mode... Based on how his car sounded it had to be stick... and the kid looked like he just turned 16... Just googled mazdaspeed 3, based on the looks it just may have been.

Whoa, don't underestimate that car (Mazdaspeed 3)...it's got like 270 bhp or something and weighs next to nothing. And he said it's turbocharged?

Fuggedaboutit.

[dreamcar=rs4]

Sounds like a mazdaspeed 3. They have about 250 hp w/ a turbo, and he could have been chipped. The guy sounded like a dbag... And you raced him? I thought you S4 guys were too mature for that stuff.

[MOFSTEEL]

Before he sped off he had the nerve to ask me how I felt buying such an expensive car and getting beat by a mazda?

Pretty ignorant statement.
I would have retorted with a foot to his a$$ and said...
"Hows it feel to get your a$$ kicked by an Audi driver."

I dont remember being a prick when I was young.
How come all these kids think theyre high and mighty now a days?

[ginkof]

my friend has an 06 or 07 mazda speed 3... and a friend of mine has a mazda speed 6... my car is faster then both of them by a longshot.. he must have been chipped... turbo upgrade or something. For the money i must say a Mazda speed 3 is a very nice car and drives pretty damn well!

[91gl]

please, dont listen to the, "my car is stock" BS. i used to use that all the time in order to make the other person feel bad. if you saw a fartcan, there was good possibility he was modified especially to beat you like that and especially fom a dig since his car is fwd while you should be taking him off the line since you drive all four

[CARTEL]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

[mountainsnbirds]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

^^^oh thats rough

[todd1010]

I live in Jax off of JTB and Hodges. We should meet up sometime.

[Quattro]

lol love the comment on "how does it feel to be poor" That would be a total douche thing to say, love it!

anyhow, no way he was stock. if he had stickers, we know why he beat you +10 for each one.

at the end of the day, you have an s4 and he has a Mazda...you win some and you win some.

-randy

[skunkoncrunk]

I believe they are all FWD...

They're pretty much like a WRX. They have lots of potential, and I stock one you should have burned. My guess he was tuned...

[Charlescrs6]

Well if he was 16 and had a modified speed 3 I wouldn't just be calling him poor either. Those cars are around 25k new, which isn't that cheap for a 16 year old's car.

[FastB7S4]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

LOL. Nice disclaimer.

[Ill 3.0]

I dont remember being a prick when I was young.

Recent thing then huh?

[b6onboost]

The kid sounds like a tool. Talking shit after waxing you. I agree that some sort of dbag comment should have been returned.

Mazdaspeed3's are no joke. my next door neighbor had one. factory turbocharged 2.3L. it will put down more whp than an Evo X (fwd vs awd). Its much lighter than an S4 and with simple mods like intake, turbo back exhaust, and a tune it can gain 50whp. My guess is the kid had a few light mods, and fact is that's all it takes to walk an S4.

[sakimano]

I can't believe you raced him, then talked to him, and raced him again...you had to know you were getting scammed. The car was not stock...no point debating that.

Ever pull up beside a random Ferrari and try to race him, only to have him stare straight ahead, ignoring you? that's what you need to do to anyone in a Mazda.


if you want to win races, go buy a B5 Stg III and just PRAY for someone to challenge you.

if you want to win at life, rock your B7 and swat away little flies in pumped up rice machines by ignoring them.

[joeycuccaro]

I can't believe you raced him, then talked to him, and raced him again...you had to know you were getting scammed. The car was not stock...no point debating that.

Ever pull up beside a random Ferrari and try to race him, only to have him stare straight ahead, ignoring you? that's what you need to do to anyone in a Mazda.


if you want to win races, go buy a B5 Stg III and just PRAY for someone to challenge you.

if you want to win at life, rock your B7 and swat away little flies in pumped up rice machines by ignoring them.

lol

[KryptoniK]

Mazdaspeed 3

Curb Weight - 3153
HP - 263
TQ - 280


If you want to compare "real" numbers. I've seen dyno numbers on stock Speed 3s at around 216 whp to 220 whp with around 245 torque to the wheels. I know I can't compare DIRECTLY since the numbers i'm comparing are done on differnt dynos, but it's just to get a rough idea. When I dynoed my B7 S4 with revo & exhaust.. I was at 240 to the wheels.

Then you factor in the weight difference.. and the powertrain loss we have (which is a lot) you're probably a little faster than the Speed 3 stock to stock. Plus you have an auto trans which isn't the fastest shifting. Now that guy claims he was practically stock, it's possible all he did was a performance chip or just a boost controller, that's enough to give him the edge to beat you time after time.

I found a Mazdaspeed 3 that just did a chip/boost controller and COI. 309whp 361tq .. did a 1/4 mile at 12.7.

A friend of mine just installed a chip alone into his 335i and went from 270 whp stock to 360 whp. Damn turbo cars...

Don't worry about it man, that kid will grow up one day and realize that at the end of the day you're in a luxurious (one of the most beautiful interiors around), fast, best sounding v8 around, quattro car and he's in a Mazda with plastic interior that goes fast in a straight line. And that is how it feels to be beat by a less expensive car in a straight line.... just doesnt mean a damn thing.

[s6sputnik]

Here is info from a dyno day we had the other day here in Austin:
The MAZDUH is my friend Kevins Mazdaspeed3 with a mild chip! Spongebob posts here and has a beautiful B7 S4, The GTO was a 6.0 and Force's is a B5 Stage 3....
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The mazduh pulled 255whp 270ft-lb. Better than I thought, I'm happy. But, now I need a FMIC...heat soak kills the power. My boost air temps were at 160+ after the third run.

Spongebob I think pulled a beautiful sounding 285awhp and 263ft-lbs

A GTO pulled 387whp (he was not happy, he pulled 409whp at a different dyno)

Force pulled 290awhp and 397ft-lbs(!!). Got some misfires or something going on there. Torque is good but the power dropped off when it should have went up! Probably has another 50-60whp missing. He never knew because he drives like Grandma!

[charliemike]

Whoa, don't underestimate that car (Mazdaspeed 3)...it's got like 270 bhp or something and weighs next to nothing. And he said it's turbocharged?

Fuggedaboutit.

I had a Mazdaspeed3 with the Mazdaspeed CAI and CBE and did a before and after dyno ... 252/255 before and 275/287 afterwards. Same dyno w/in a couple of days of each other by the same guy.

The S4 is much faster around the Top Gear track than the MPS3 (Mazdaspeed3) but in a straight line rolling start those things can be really fast.

[Sinister]

I could see a modded MS3 doing that.

I could get my DD up to 332 whp and 396 tq, and it's a direct competitor with the MS3.

[TN2004S4]

just To Be An Asshole Back, You Could Have Said:

"how Does It Feel To Be Poor?"


driving A Mazada Doesn't Make You Poor, Just A Suggestion To Make Him Feel As Stupid As He Sounds.

Lmao........hahahhahahaaha....that Just Made My Day. In Any Case, A Stock Mazda Speed 3 Doesn't Stand A Chance Against The S4. I've Beaten Many Of Them.

[S-Fore]

I had a similar experience, same car (mazdaspeed3) but was def modded. He pulled up next to me, I looked like "see ya" and clicked down a few (Tip) and took off, only to see him right next to me, neck & neck. I laughed. I back off @ 125. Another incident, I played w/ a guy in a Mugen Civic Si, for about 45 min on a local parkway, late night. It was a good 45 min of 100+ and I don't think that my car went below 5K, in any gear. He was dbl clutching, dropping it out of the corners. He could stay with me a good part of the time, but I could take him on pure pulling power. I would slow up to let him catch up to keep it fun. Then, we approached a good straight and I was about 2.5 cars ahead of him and a WRX Sti came blowing by me @ 120. Both of thses cars were modded, esp. the WRX. This kid was cool though, we had a good drive. You don't come across to many of those.

[GarbatyA4]

If you got your ass handed to you, I bet he had one of these

CLICKY

Mazda speed 3 is the next SRT4 thing

[Fizikal S4Avant]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

FTW!

[jdmnomore]

Mazdaspeeds from the factory would be a close race and modded they are easily 12 seconds cars, they offer great bang for the buck between the AWD roomy interior and tunable motor so to be honest T/S youre not much better then the 16 year old kid IMO. Calling his exhaust a fart can, being ignorant to what the car really is and asking to race from a dig after he put cars on you to begin with makes you just as ignorant as him. Now two wrongs dont make a right but If the kid made that comment to me Ida said you know what youre right my car sucks im prepared to offer you 100 dollars for your car right now, a great deal if you ask me.

[FourRingRider]

Thanks guys for the response... I never truly believed he was STOCK because like I said he pulled on me like an E55 at hwy speeds (5 car lengths in a couple seconds) and I was in S-mode, locked and loaded and punched it right when he did... and from a dig I jumped a car length initially (quattro) and when his tires actually grabbed he just caught up next to me neck to neck and just waved as he was passing by like I wasnt trying... Glad everyone can confirm though that hes modded and not stock... Reminds me of a few years ago when I saw some hondas that were 10sec Ferrari killers... I guess if I want faster I should opt for the VF kit, or get an RS4...

[SuperAvant]

Mazdaspeeds from the factory would be a close race and modded they are easily 12 seconds cars, they offer great bang for the buck between the AWD roomy interior and tunable motor so to be honest T/S youre not much better then the 16 year old kid IMO. Calling his exhaust a fart can, being ignorant to what the car really is and asking to race from a dig after he put cars on you to begin with makes you just as ignorant as him. Now two wrongs dont make a right but If the kid made that comment to me Ida said you know what youre right my car sucks im prepared to offer you 100 dollars for your car right now, a great deal if you ask me.

The 3 speed doesnt have AWD. only the 6. I test drove one and they are no where near close to the S4 stock from the factory. Pretty big turbo lag and has nothing on the top end.

[ZachPDX]

I had a 03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege for a few years. First car and always will hold a special place in my spirtual garage. That bein said it was a stock 2.0l with a garret turbo slaped on and a side mount IC. I think It made 170hp stock @ 6psi. I chipped mine and did a full 3" exhaust not cats (i was 19) made about 17psi and could hold with stockish srt-4's (neon). No idea how long tho I sold it under 30k miles and got a TT.

The 3 is a MUCH better car than the protege and the MS3 is just impressive but at the end of the day I would much rather have a stock a4 than a ms3, im sooooo done with torque steer in this lifetime. If the ms3 was AWD I dont know that I would be in my s4 right now, mazda fan boy at heart.

[Meradin]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

I like using the line "You might have won, but at least I don't have to drive that piece of sh!t home."

[RAudi Driver]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

That's a great line but I drive a Nissan daily and have an RS4 in the garage. If someone said that to me, well, you get the point.

It's still a great line if it turns out to be true.

[Louis J.]

My stage II 2.0T is somewhat comparable to a stock MS3. There is no way it was stock.

A 16 y/o kid driving a fast car and pulling a stunt like that will sooner or later wrap his car around a pole. Do you want to be around when that happens? I personally stay away from those young, dumb and full of cumb jackasses.

[Swanky]

Mazdaspeed3's are no joke. my next door neighbor had one. factory turbocharged 2.3L. it will put down more whp than an Evo X (fwd vs awd). Its much lighter than an S4 and with simple mods like intake, turbo back exhaust, and a tune it can gain 50whp. My guess is the kid had a few light mods, and fact is that's all it takes to walk an S4.

true statement, it is what it is

[norsecarnut]

should've challenged him to hitting a brick wall at speed and then see who's talking smack afterwards. ....one of the many reasons we drive these things.

[SebringSilver]

There are plenty of cars that can be modded (or not) to be faster than our S4s. There's no point getting too worked up about it. S4 owners will know why they enjoy their ride so much, and constantly comparing them to everything else on the road is pretty pointless.

[JMG]

The S4 isn't exactly the fastest car even for it's price range. Even the RS4 doesn't turn in as impressive numbers as modded imports like the Mazdaspeed 3, EVOs and STIs. Nevermind the chump 16yr old little shits who either a) begged their parents to fund their rides or b) slaved over a hot deep fryer for a couple summers to save up for a turbo on their leased Mazda. It's not even worth it.

Ever pull up beside a random Ferrari and try to race him, only to have him stare straight ahead, ignoring you? that's what you need to do to anyone in a Mazda.

I was riding around in my friend's Modena and you had to make a strong conscious decision to not notice all the people staring at you as you drive down the street. Lets face it. Street racers just want attention. In a Ferrari you don't need to race anyone for attention. Just drive around, open it up once and awhile and let the audience hear the orchestra coming from your exhaust. There is nothing left to prove, esp to some FWD econo "sport" car.

[FrankA6]

Just to be an asshole back, you could have said:

"how does it feel to be poor?"


Driving a Mazada doesn't make you poor, just a suggestion to make him feel as stupid as he sounds.

amen.

[cellg8]

sorry to hear but this story cracks me up...LoL...