Snub Mounts? What the difference?

[Frey7190]

I have no idea what a snub mount does... I have seen on sites like ECS all these different type of mounts... Some priced higher than other. What is the difference (other than color b/c Audi's OEM is blk and APR is red) is it worth the difference in price?? What will I get/gain from buying aftermarket?

[4Rings3Liters]

The stiffer aftermarket snub mounts take up extra slack in the drivetrain reducing driveline shock and making power transfer smoother.

[Frey7190]

I saw a similar explanation on ECS... What does that mean in english?

[4Rings3Liters]

The stock snub mount is soft and spongy so when compressed it gives and adds slack to the drivetrain. When a stiffer snub mount goes in it doesn't give and takes up that extra slack.

[a4mafia(Red)]

i heard greddy snub ≥ APR snub....is that true???

[illaudiill]

id choose apr...leave greddy to the Hondas

[4Rings3Liters]

APR makes good products but unfortunately their snub mount is known to break.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...light=apr+snub

[Mike@PureMS]

The snub mount is the forward most engine mount. A stiffer version, like our APR or Stern mounts reduces engine movement over stock. It makes shifting a little easier, and makes the car feel a bit more solid since the engine isn't moving around as much.

Differences between the various brands are all pretty small, APR, Stern, Neuspeed, Apikol, all have some minor geometry and materials changes.
We carry both the APR and Stern brands with great results from both.

[A4SoftWalker]

^^^ Listen to him APR snubs do NOT have a good track record... From someone that has some of their other stuff.

My Apikol snub from 034Motorsport is terrific so far.

[afozzie40]

I just ordered an ECS snub. I also heard APR breaks B/C of material. Apikol is also good so i've heard.

[mtxsho93]

I thought that I read somewhere on here that there is a mount available with a cage bracket to hold it in place better than the factory mount. Am I making this up or does such a thing exist?

If so, is it any better than just replacing the factory snub?

Thanks!
Ian

[tamaneri]

What's the cost of the snub mount?

What's the installation like?

And, from people who already have it, do you like it?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

i just ordered a neuspeed, saty clear of APR's.

[A4SoftWalker]

I thought that I read somewhere on here that there is a mount available with a cage bracket to hold it in place better than the factory mount. Am I making this up or does such a thing exist?

If so, is it any better than just replacing the factory snub?

Thanks!
Ian

034Motorsport makes one but it is for the B5. They installed my snub and didn't use it. Although it is listed on their site it is not obvious how it would be utilized in the B6.

[Boosted3.0]

Neuspeed are by far the best.

[4Rings3Liters]

What's the cost of the snub mount?

$25-45

What's the installation like?

Simple, there is a DIY around here somewhere.

And, from people who already have it, do you like it?

Yes

[t0mt0m]

i have an apr and had no problems
my friend has a nuespeed and has no problems, i think if you dont run a belly pan and i think its climate induced; meaning more salt = more corrosion on the rubber snub mount its going to fall apart quicker

[tamaneri]

Thanks for the info

I guess I'll pick one up this spring!

I need to put my belly pan back on. Winter is here!

[monkey323i]

I have a quick question.

my car is auto tip.

when it upshift/downshift, there's often a noticable vibration.

is this the cause from snub mount?

[mtxsho93]

034Motorsport makes one but it is for the B5. They installed my snub and didn't use it. Although it is listed on their site it is not obvious how it would be utilized in the B6.

That's right! That's where I remembered seeing it. I'll have to check to see if it fits a C5. I have a new APR snub that I bought from ECS with their timing belt kit. Everything is still in boxes waiting for a free weekend...

Thanks!
Ian

[a4mafia(Red)]

****shit i meant greedspeed, not greddy.....what do you guys think of greedspeed????

[Turb_Oh_A4]

Apikol. Very Easy install, i let my cat do it, and she doesnt have thumbs...

When you guys nail it in your cars (without a new snub mount) and you hear a clunk, or when you shift thats the snub being a big OEM Pos.

[Dopefish]

The stock snub mount is very soft and weak, allowing a lot of play on the longitudinal axis of the engine, which impresses load/tension on the rest of the drivetrain. The stiffer aftermarket units aren't nearly as sloppy, ranging from just a stiffer version of the stock parameter to some that full the forward mount cup, limiting almost all of the 'play'. This reduces drivetrain shift, improving the responsiveness of the car slightly, lowering the stress exerted on the other mounts and mounting points as well improving the precision of the shift gate due to the reduced play in the drivetrain.

The APR unit is garbage in my opinion, I have only heard of two people to ever speak highly of this mount, while anyone else has had nothing but trouble. Mine lasted ~18,000mi, before I noticed it was destroyed, who knows how long before it initially started failing. The mount cracked in half and was working itself out of the mounting cup. The car became very sloppy and would randomly pop out of gear or completely refuse to go into gear at all. This mount is the most expensive as well at ~50$, which further makes me wonder WTF?!.

Here is my APR snub:


The Apikol and Sterm mounts are receiving good reviews here on Audizine, and considering that 034Motorsports supports Apikol, I have complete faith that it is a sound design.

Personally, after my APR snub failed, I moved on to the Neuspeed unit. It fills the cup more completely and has reliefs in the parameter to help endure flex from the sidewall pressures when loaded. The design is the best and most unique in my opinion and the feel compared to the OEM or even the APR when it was new is stellar! Very firm and precise. There was a noticeable vibration at idle, only slight though and it isn't obnoxious or emitting any level noise. It softly permeates from the steering wheel and shift lever reminding you of the solidity of your drivetrain.

[illaudiill]

The stock snub mount is very soft and weak, allowing a lot of play on the longitudinal axis of the engine, which impresses load/tension on the rest of the drivetrain. The stiffer aftermarket units aren't nearly as sloppy, ranging from just a stiffer version of the stock parameter to some that full the forward mount cup, limiting almost all of the 'play'. This reduces drivetrain shift, improving the responsiveness of the car slightly, lowering the stress exerted on the other mounts and mounting points as well improving the precision of the shift gate due to the reduced play in the drivetrain.

The APR unit is garbage in my opinion, I have only heard of two people to ever speak highly of this mount, while anyone else has had nothing but trouble. Mine lasted ~18,000mi, before I noticed it was destroyed, who knows how long before it initially started failing. The mount cracked in half and was working itself out of the mounting cup. The car became very sloppy and would randomly pop out of gear or completely refuse to go into gear at all. This mount is the most expensive as well at ~50$, which further makes me wonder WTF?!.

Here is my APR snub:


The Apikol and Sterm mounts are receiving good reviews here on Audizine, and considering that 034Motorsports supports Apikol, I have complete faith that it is a sound design.

Personally, after my APR snub failed, I moved on to the Neuspeed unit. It fills the cup more completely and has reliefs in the parameter to help endure flex from the sidewall pressures when loaded. The design is the best and most unique in my opinion and the feel compared to the OEM or even the APR when it was new is stellar! Very firm and precise. There was a noticeable vibration at idle, only slight though and it isn't obnoxious or emitting any level noise. It softly permeates from the steering wheel and shift lever reminding you of the solidity of your drivetrain.

i was actually gona go with APR...guess ill go with 034 or apikol.....

[NyteEscape]

as much crap as apr gets, i've had the snub mount on for more than a year now, and no problems. it is still in good condition, w/ no cracks anywhere.

love the shifting after it, don't think i can go back.

[A4 Moda]

Neuspeed Snub mount is only $30 retail.

CLICK

I'm sure you could find it even cheaper at a reseller.

I've had the neuspeed for 3.5 years. NOT A SINGLE sign of hesitation.

[Torqie]

Neuspeed Snub mount is only $30 retail.

CLICK

I'm sure you could find it even cheaper at a reseller.

I've had the neuspeed for 3.5 years. NOT A SINGLE sign of hesitation.

Just picked me up one.

[LampyB]

+1 on the Apikol Snub. I've had mine in for almost two years now and it's been through some of the most brutal winter conditions imaginable up in the mountains. over 11,000' in elevation in a blizzard, at lower than 0deg. temps! haha, bragging a bit about how awesome my audi is in extreme winter conditions! this snub is the shit though, drive train shock was drastically reduced after the install.

[QTC]

I have a Stern snubmount (from purems). It was like $24 or something. Been great so far.

[monkey323i]

where did you guys get all these snub mounts from?

so far all I searched is APR ones or ECSTuning's Snub mount.

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

have an Apikol snub on my tip B5 for about a month now, love it thus far!

[Dopefish]

where did you guys get all these snub mounts from?

so far all I searched is APR ones or ECSTuning's Snub mount.

The first came straight from APR at a retarded $50 + shipping. The second was from Nuespeed at only $30, with FREE shipping. Nuespeed is for the win!

[A4 Moda]

Yup, for the whole 3.5 years i've ran the Neuspeed, I've had my bellypan off as well.

Not a bad piece at all.

[kwimberly]

Apikol - love it.

Here's my install thread.

[mtxsho93]

So which is generally the better mod; the drivetrain stabilizer brace or the snub mount? Or does it help out to run both together? Does anyone notice an increase in NVH with either the snub mount or DTS or a combination of both?

Thanks,
Ian

[Mike@PureMS]

There is no DTS available for the B6 chassis I'm aware of.

[monkey323i]

how is the Audi OEM snub mount?

I'm planning to get this done ASAP and if Audi OEM snub mount is fine, then I guess I'm going to grab one tomrrow and get it installed right away.

[A4 Moda]

There's a lot of slack in it. It slops when you're trying to shift, especially during spirited driving.

The choice is yours. I wouldn't do it though.

how is the Audi OEM snub mount?

I'm planning to get this done ASAP and if Audi OEM snub mount is fine, then I guess I'm going to grab one tomrrow and get it installed right away.

[monkey323i]

Hi:
sry if this question is too dumb.

but I just called in for snub mount, they said there're left and right side?

so when you guys do the snub mount, you buy both sides (two snub mounts) ?

how come in those DIY they only do right side only (passenger side).

[monkey323i]

Hi:
sry if this question is too dumb.

but I just called in for snub mount, they said there're left and right side?

so when you guys do the snub mount, you buy both sides (two snub mounts) ?

how come in those DIY they only do right side only (passenger side).

nvm, just found out that motor mount and snub mount are two different things.