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    I went to my local revo dealer to just get flashed with a free 5 hr trial and i was wondering if there is any difference in power between the trial and the actual ecu upgrade. To be honest i felt a little difference in power from stock but it didnt feel night and day as some describe it. I plan to go with revo next week regardless but just wondering if there is anything else to look foward to haha.

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Idk, I don't think many people here did the trial flash. Between the actual flash and stock is night and day.
    Just a heads up, with the actual flash it may take a few days for the new settings to settle and to be at peak performance.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    ya u wont feel it when u get the 5 hour trial but when the 5 hour trial stops thats when ur like oh my... lol. its worth it trust me or like the other people on AZ with revo. its pretty worth it.
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    yea ive heard that it takes a day or 2 to settle so thats why i questioned the power difference from the trial

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by viperdsa View Post
    Idk, I don't think many people here did the trial flash. Between the actual flash and stock is night and day.
    Just a heads up, with the actual flash it may take a few days for the new settings to settle and to be at peak performance.
    X2... it took a little bit for it to work fully on my car.. like about 2 days i felt the full potential of the chip...i was well worth it... are you going stage 1 or stage 2 ?

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I did the trial before I got the real deal and theres really no difference but I think I convinced myself the real deal feels more powerful haha. you defiantly have to get the real deal though its the best thing ive bought on my car

    it does get faster the first couple days because your ECU has to get used to it so maybe thats why the real deal seems faster
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    IMO, once you're flashed, you're flashed. I don't see how it could take a day to "settle." Your ECU is remapped and that's it. If it really took a day to settle, then what would the point of the 5 hour trial be?
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    IMO, once you're flashed, you're flashed. I don't see how it could take a day to "settle." Your ECU is remapped and that's it. If it really took a day to settle, then what would the point of the 5 hour trial be?
    X2 here

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    your ecu takes time to learn how to optimize the new settings from what i've read
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    Ive been told by shop owners and people that it takes a little while for your ECU to get used to it. The 5 hour trial might not give you the 100% feeling of the chip but your defiantly gonna feel what the chips going to be like. I mean it's a FREE 5 hour trial.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    IMO, once you're flashed, you're flashed. I don't see how it could take a day to "settle." Your ECU is remapped and that's it. If it really took a day to settle, then what would the point of the 5 hour trial be?
    Actually it does take the engine and system time to settle. I can explain it technically but almost everyone agrees on this. Therefore with the 5 hour trial, I would give it until the next day and start up the car again before the real effect shows. Just my .02

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by nsmith12 View Post
    Actually it does take the engine and system time to settle. I can explain it technically but almost everyone agrees on this. Therefore with the 5 hour trial, I would give it until the next day and start up the car again before the real effect shows. Just my .02
    Is the 5 hour trial 5 hours from the time of flash or 5 hours of total run time on the car? How would the ecu "settle in" if the car is turned off?

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    ^its 5 hours of the car being on/driven. And driving it one day and then it being off, then the next day after a little it supposed to be a tad better, that's just what I've heard

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    yeah its 5 hours of driving time and it will just eventually leave the car when the trials over
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    ^ Got ya, thanks.

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    like everyone says, car takes awhile to get used to it. You get around 90% of the flash on a trial, but not 100%. Once its gone, you will notice you didnt have it. I didnt have a boost gauge when i had my trial, so I couldnt tell if boost increased (assume it did)

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I'd like to see one of the guys from APR/REVO/GIAC back that up. I just don't buy it.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    I'd like to see one of the guys from APR/REVO/GIAC back that up. I just don't buy it.
    Much like any mod to a computer and change to the input data will need to allow for new computations. that why you home computer needs to shut down for a service pack, or if you add a new input device i.e. a mouse.

    It will take a car a while to adjust to the new data coming in, because up until the flash the factory map had limits, some of which are going to be broken. But after and few start-ups, and shut-offs, the ECU will adjust to the new parameters, and start to recognize them and adjust the math accordingly.

    Think of it like adding ram to a computer your OS will recognize it immedately, but it will not use it for a day or so as it is not used to using it.

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I can somewhat prove that it does take some time to get used to it. I didn't have a boost gauge when I first had Revo put on the car, so I can't comment on going stock>Revo. But when I removed the flash, it took me about two days to get down to the stock 12lbs of boost. Everytime I drove the car it seemed like it would go down about 2lbs of boost. Another weird thing was that with Revo when I was at idle or not on the gas, I would be at -20 to -22lbs. I also get the same reading now that I'm stock. However, for a few days after getting the flash removed, I was only getting down to about -10 to -13lbs. It almost seemed like my boost gauge was getting stuck at -10, but it only lasted for a few days and it has never happened since...
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I don't know about Revo, but when I did the APR 6hr trial, I felt the difference right then. If you have the chance, try it out, it's free :-)

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    i felt a huge difference with my giac-x right when i drove off the lot of the tuner company

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Alecd90 View Post
    I went to my local revo dealer to just get flashed with a free 5 hr trial and i was wondering if there is any difference in power between the trial and the actual ecu upgrade. To be honest i felt a little difference in power from stock but it didnt feel night and day as some describe it. I plan to go with revo next week regardless but just wondering if there is anything else to look foward to haha.
    I said the same exact thing when I had my REVO trial. It wasn't night and day for me, and I truly wasn't that impressed with it. Maybe, I was expecting too much, but it just felt slightly more powerful. Since the trial I still haven't chipped it, I couldn't see spending that money for that trial feeling.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Great White View Post
    I don't know about Revo, but when I did the APR 6hr trial, I felt the difference right then. If you have the chance, try it out, it's free :-)
    This is what I was hoping to see -- the trial experience with the APR flash -- as that is the one I am thinking of getting. Thanks for sharing that tidbit.

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I'm not saying that one company is better than the other, but shouldn't they all feel the same and if anything you should able to feel Revo more than the others? This is just based on advertised numbers stating that Revo adds a little more HP than the other tunes. Also, it seems as though for most people, APR peaks at about 18-20lbs of boost and Revo seems to be 20-22lbs of boost. Taking the inaccuracy of the butt dyno into all of this, they should all feel relatively the same with how close the numbers are... That being said, I have only ridden in a Revo tuned car so I might be completely off of my rocker!
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    Revo trial has different settings, you could have been flashed with conservative settings.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    another thing is that the dealer never asked me what kind of gas i was running at the time. i had 93 but they may have given me a 91 octane trial, if that even matters?

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Alecd90 View Post
    another thing is that the dealer never asked me what kind of gas i was running at the time. i had 93 but they may have given me a 91 octane trial, if that even matters?
    Yes, very much it matters.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I don't know of anyone who's had the REVO and APR trial but I know REVOs known to be more aggressive. Bottom line is you will feel a huge difference when you get the trial but its not going to be the same as the real deal. If you liked how the trial felt I guarantee you will be happy with the real deal. I was really skeptical because I didn't think the trial was worth upgrading to the real deal but I have no regrets and im so glad I went for it and got the chip.
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    Get the APR 93 you will notice the difference.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Glassnpowder98 View Post
    I'm not saying that one company is better than the other, but shouldn't they all feel the same and if anything you should able to feel Revo more than the others? This is just based on advertised numbers stating that Revo adds a little more HP than the other tunes. Also, it seems as though for most people, APR peaks at about 18-20lbs of boost and Revo seems to be 20-22lbs of boost. Taking the inaccuracy of the butt dyno into all of this, they should all feel relatively the same with how close the numbers are... That being said, I have only ridden in a Revo tuned car so I might be completely off of my rocker!
    why did you remove your flash?

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    Quote Originally Posted by HID View Post
    Revo trial has different settings, you could have been flashed with conservative settings.
    This is exactly why people wouldn't feel a huge difference during a trial. I'm running 7-5-5 (Revo settings) 7-boost, 5-timing, and 5-fuel and my A4 flies when I get on it and it is ABSOLUTELY a huge and noticeable difference from stock. I got the Revo Select device so I can adjust the settings myself when desired.

    For those of you who can't tell a change from stock compared to the Revo trial flash, you either: never got flashed; the trial flash was not set at a performance setting; or your car is in poor operating condition.

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    Re: 5 hour trial

    I just spoke with AWE on Friday afternoon and I'm awaiting their release of the HPFP. Also, in the very near future I'm going to get flashed with GIAC-X file. Once their HPFP comes out, that's going in as well. Can't wait.
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    Re: 5 hour trial

    My Revo flash was def night and day. Noticed it as soon as I drove out of the tuners lot.

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    I had the revo trial flash yesterday and felt the difference as soon as I left KMD. The car felt way more aggressive. I really noticed the difference when the trial was over and I was back to stock. I know i'll definitely be getting the flash as soon as I get the money for it.

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