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    Single turbo s4 video>>?

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    i was looking at some videos on streetfire and i came accross this...

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    its been talked about before theres even a thread about it but nice video
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Info on this setup was posted about a month ago IIRC.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    zomg do want plz
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    sounds like pure sex....but honestly, if you watch the speedo....it really isn't too much of a cooker. A few of the heavy-hitter K04 cars could beat that.
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    nicee vid...sounds pissed off
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Holy crap that thing sounds good. Definitely need more videos.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4 View Post
    sounds like pure sex....but honestly, if you watch the speedo....it really isn't too much of a cooker. A few of the heavy-hitter K04 cars could beat that.
    pretty ignorant comment...

    so a few of the completely MAXED out k04 cars MIGHT be able to 'beat' that...?

    do you know anything about the setup? like what turbo/boost/timing?

    that thing could be on 18psi and pump gas for all you know.

    this anti-single crap out of some of you is just asinine
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    I would love for a single kit...The way single turbo setups hit is just a complete pleasure to drive..You can see how hard this particular kit pulls up high, I love that.
    quite laggy if youre not jumping into the powerband though,,
    on that video in 1st gear, he isnt hitting 10 psi until 4800 rpm...


    Someone make a good kit already...I'd give my money for one.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    pretty ignorant comment...

    so a few of the completely MAXED out k04 cars MIGHT be able to 'beat' that...?

    do you know anything about the setup? like what turbo/boost/timing?

    that thing could be on 18psi and pump gas for all you know.

    this anti-single crap out of some of you is just asinine

    video says 22psi.. and 93 octane

    Its nice, I hoped it would be faster. Maybe it will be with more boost

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by AK1RA07 View Post
    video says 22psi..

    Its nice, I hoped it would be faster. Maybe it will be with more boost
    heh, look at that. my browser will not load it for some reason. so i still haven't seen the vid.

    buy my post still stands. 22psi is absolutly nothing for a gt30 or larger turbo.

    does it say which turbo? im guessing 35r?
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    that's a low boost tune guys.. the 35r maxes out at what, 32-34psi? a maxed out k04 car (rob's) could keep up with this, but that's MAXED. and a GT car would lag like a mofo while this thing was spooling and tearing it up
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jung View Post
    and a GT car would lag like a mofo while this thing was spooling and tearing it up
    god. i really don't understand this either. what 'GT' are we talking about here? are we talking something like GURU's where it's GT2860r's? cause of coarse that will lagg more. it will make more power also.

    x single will not outflow x twin.

    if you put a 50lb/min turbo on the 2.7t and two 25lb/min turbo's on it, it will likely spool the exact same. and make the same power.
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    oh my...that was nice
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    I do remember seeing the thread about this set up but this is the first i've seen of the video.

    GT3582R @ 22lbs.

    That turbo is capable of up to 600 hp... there could be some more interesting videos posted on here in a few months.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jung View Post
    that's a low boost tune guys.. the 35r maxes out at what, 32-34psi? a maxed out k04 car (rob's) could keep up with this, but that's MAXED. and a GT car would lag like a mofo while this thing was spooling and tearing it up
    Your statement is 100% wrong, gt2860rs are making full boost by 4200rpm. Alexs car is set to 9lbs and hes making 9lbs at 3400 on his 28ss, another car at ssp is making maxed boost of 18lbs at 4k.. I think people are seriously confused on how turbos work. heres Guru running 20lbs http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=I8WoFd-truA dont see any lag B.S here on gt28RSss
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Why would one huge turbo have less lag than two big turbos?

    It wouldn't.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    lol ^agreed ... hehe read a book guys then use your info in practice .. it helps lol

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    pretty ignorant comment...

    so a few of the completely MAXED out k04 cars MIGHT be able to 'beat' that...?

    do you know anything about the setup? like what turbo/boost/timing?

    that thing could be on 18psi and pump gas for all you know.

    this anti-single crap out of some of you is just asinine
    Wow, you haven't even watched the video yet and you spew this non-sensible babble out of your mouth? Wow, get a life.

    heh, look at that. my browser will not load it for some reason. so i still haven't seen the vid.
    Maybe you should watch the video before opening your trap next time, brah. When in God's name did I bash a single? All I said is "it isn't much a cooker". Show me ONE fast single turbo S4....oh wait, this is the only one that actually works/. I'm all for single turbos, ask my buddy Laxman851...we've discussed this topic many times, and I would much rather have one big, single, laggy turbo that makes huge top-end power. The heavy hitter S4's could prob. beat this, as in the mid-low 11sec S4's, which are far and few between. ALSO, that single S4 is on a stock motor, so it's only going to handle 525-ish whp, and it's on a completely stock short-block, so it's not going to be some awesome ground-breaking S4 until the motor is built. So who has the ignorant comment now I ask you?
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by jukesandz View Post
    Why would one huge turbo have less lag than two big turbos?

    It wouldn't.
    GT2860rs are rated at 360chp, 1 will hardly move a civic. It's more like to small-medium size turbos, plus theres more then just the size of the turbo that will create lag, like all the length in the exhaust manifolds runners.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by generationjdm View Post
    GT2860rs are rated at 360chp, 1 will hardly move a civic. It's more like to small-medium size turbos, plus theres more then just the size of the turbo that will create lag, like all the length in the exhaust manifolds runners.
    Well I have K03's GT2860rs's are big compared to my K03's at least.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    sounds bad ass hell, but doesnt look very fast.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    This car ran 2.8 FATS on its very first tune.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4 View Post
    Wow, you haven't even watched the video yet and you spew this non-sensible babble out of your mouth? Wow, get a life.



    Maybe you should watch the video before opening your trap next time, brah. When in God's name did I bash a single? All I said is "it isn't much a cooker". Show me ONE fast single turbo S4....oh wait, this is the only one that actually works/. I'm all for single turbos, ask my buddy Laxman851...we've discussed this topic many times, and I would much rather have one big, single, laggy turbo that makes huge top-end power. The heavy hitter S4's could prob. beat this, as in the mid-low 11sec S4's, which are far and few between. ALSO, that single S4 is on a stock motor, so it's only going to handle 525-ish whp, and it's on a completely stock short-block, so it's not going to be some awesome ground-breaking S4 until the motor is built. So who has the ignorant comment now I ask you?
    There are several single setups running. Just because they aren't on the forum, doesn't mean there aren't any.

    2.7 single 35r ran an 11.02 @ 129. Granted it was in a fairly lighter car, albeit the same weight as my S4...it still was rather impressive. This was also on a base tune as well.

    I wouldn't really take too much into consideration, with regards to lag, at least with this video. You can clearly see the car never falls out of boost...even with its weak manifold setup. As we have seen in other single 35r setups. Full boost was below 4.5k


    But once again 2.8 FATS...even when it doesn't full boost while in FATS, is still faster than the majority of the S4's out there. Give that car some decent timing, some legit boost and that car will run low low low low 2 second FATS.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    pretty sick car, like the sound

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    Nice Vid, I have been in contact with Aaron, one of there fabricators. Very cool guy. I wish I was not so far away. It would be easier to get the S to them.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    There are several single setups running. Just because they aren't on the forum, doesn't mean there aren't any.

    2.7 single 35r ran an 11.02 @ 129. Granted it was in a fairly lighter car, albeit the same weight as my S4...it still was rather impressive. This was also on a base tune as well.

    I wouldn't really take too much into consideration, with regards to lag, at least with this video. You can clearly see the car never falls out of boost...even with its weak manifold setup. As we have seen in other single 35r setups. Full boost was below 4.5k


    But once again 2.8 FATS...even when it doesn't full boost while in FATS, is still faster than the majority of the S4's out there. Give that car some decent timing, some legit boost and that car will run low low low low 2 second FATS.
    oh trust me man, I have NO doubt that car COULD be a monster with a built motor/more boost. Here's the problem, with more timing/boost that motor would prob be beyond what our puny rod-bolts/rods could handle and they would snap like toothpicks. I'm not bashing the POTENTIAL of that set-up, I think it's awesome that someone did something different! I just wasn't super impressed with the acceleration from the video solely.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    There are several single setups running. Just because they aren't on the forum, doesn't mean there aren't any.

    2.7 single 35r ran an 11.02 @ 129. Granted it was in a fairly lighter car, albeit the same weight as my S4...it still was rather impressive. This was also on a base tune as well.

    I wouldn't really take too much into consideration, with regards to lag, at least with this video. You can clearly see the car never falls out of boost...even with its weak manifold setup. As we have seen in other single 35r setups. Full boost was below 4.5k


    But once again 2.8 FATS...even when it doesn't full boost while in FATS, is still faster than the majority of the S4's out there. Give that car some decent timing, some legit boost and that car will run low low low low 2 second FATS.
    Deb you're working on a kit aren't you? When is it going to be done around...? I am interested. TIA

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    gt3582 is kinda small for that motor isnt it? theres a good amount of guys running that on 1.8s and 2.0 strokers. I hope its on a very safe tune to be spoolin that slow. i say gt42r single turbo s4.

    offtopic, but anyone seen the video of the single turbo 2.7 audi TT?
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4 View Post
    oh trust me man, I have NO doubt that car COULD be a monster with a built motor/more boost. Here's the problem, with more timing/boost that motor would prob be beyond what our puny rod-bolts/rods could handle and they would snap like toothpicks. I'm not bashing the POTENTIAL of that set-up, I think it's awesome that someone did something different! I just wasn't super impressed with the acceleration from the video solely.
    I hear ya. I don't think this setup is pushing the limits of the rods yet. I think this could easily run a better/more aggressive tune and be in the boundaries of the stock block.

    I don't think manifold design really helps though. I think this shop realizes that as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    Deb you're working on a kit aren't you? When is it going to be done around...? I am interested. TIA
    Yup! We are developing a setup that will put down serious power, but you are going to want to build your motor. Of course, you can go with a similar setup as this and not build your motor. But you wouldn't really get to push the tune, as seen in this video.

    I am running a larger turbo, flows about 25-30% more air than the 35r and has similar spool characteristics. Of course the design of the manifold will be different and the length of the manifold piping is A LOT shorter.
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    This car is raw.

    Sounds stellar.

    Must be a very satisfying accomplishment for the owner.
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    pff. A TT 4-cyl. would be a way better setup than this....
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    997 gt2 turbos yeah
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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    as mike stated "Here's the #'s from only one revision on the tune." so I don't know if I'd say he said he "nailed" it. He did say that the MAFless tuning went perfect, but I doubt there are no revisions that could be made to have it perform better. Also, the shop has stated that this was an easy and quick way to set up the single turbo. They are planning on introducing more heat/customer friendly manifold design which will most likely be more friendly to the spool also. Not picking sides between a twin GT car and a single setup like this, but I think both have potential and both have yet to have that potential shown! There have been a few cars for each that have performed well but this year should be a good indicator of where the performance of these kits are at.

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    Re: Single turbo s4 video>>?

    Wow...

    Wastegate dump + Audi V6 wail = godly howl


    On another note, it would be nice to see what this thing could do really using that 35R!

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