HELP car wont start

[bastosmafka]

i just did the headgaskets on my v6 12v and i got everything together and it wont start up. im scared that i messed up putting the timing belt (missed by a tooth?) on but i remember turning the crank by hand 2 rounds. any ideas on what i did wrong or anything? anything i should check? im thinking it could be a vaccuum leak maybe? how can i make sure im on the right teeth with the cams?

[bastosmafka]

bump. need help fast.

[James-NZ]

Need more info on what it is doing/not doing.

Will it crank?

Is there spark?

Is there fuel?

[bastosmafka]

it will crank but it sounds ugly. im pretty sure i have spark and fuel. it sounds like it wants to turn over and keep going but i wont. i changed out every gasket that i would have to go through until the headgasket. only thing i didnt change was the fuel injectors orings cause i didnt have new ones..

[James-NZ]

So many variables at this stage, VERY hard to diagnose with out being there. To be honest my gut says timing, your "sounds ugly" comment gives me that feeling.
Could also be a vacuum leak.

Just to many possibilities. Start by confirming timing, then process of elimination from there.

[bastosmafka]

whats the easiest/fastest way to check if my timing belt is on the right spot? is there a possibility the valves could be bent from being off by one tooth?

[James-NZ]

Stress less brother, I have no idea what the interference tolerances are like in these engines. But I can confirm stressing about it will not help. Also a tooth out is *unlikely* to bend anything. That said, a tooth out will normally run, just very rough.

Line up the timing marks if you are totally unsure of where the timing is, other wise use a timing light?

[bastosmafka]

i moved a tooth over on the timing belt when i discovered my mistake but now its backfiring is that the correct term? it sounds like firecrackers at random times. i only started it up 2 times for like 2 seconds each. happened the second time i turned it on. is that normal or am i a tooth off on the other side now?? ahah

[bastosmafka]

oh yeah and i remember when i was pulling out the spark plug wires i couldnt get one out so me being a dumbass i yanked it from the cable. i think that one cable is F***ed maybe thats why my cars sounding like firecrackers?

[James-NZ]

Ok, backfiring is better than what you had before. Move another tooth, same direction as before, you may have been 2 teeth out.

Disclaimer:
This is what I would do, do it at your own risk, I have no idea of where your timing is, so it is up to you to decide if this is safe.

[ThirdStrike]

Also a tooth out is *unlikely* to bend anything. That said, a tooth out will normally run, just very rough.

truth and not truth.
ive been off one tooth on my 1.8 for a while and didnt know it.
(cel for cam position sensor - implausible signal) car will run fine but throw a cel
2 teeth and youre getting close to hitting valves
3 teeth and it shouldnt even let you turn the crank shaft.

if you rotated that crank manually at least 3 times and lined the cam tooth marks up like you were supposed to timing should be fine.

[bastosmafka]

the thing is i forgot to mark the sprockets with the block.. i just marked the belt and sprockets and matched it up. when i was putting it on i moved the sprocket by accident and didnt know where it should be after that.

[bastosmafka]

Ok, backfiring is better than what you had before. Move another tooth, same direction as before, you may have been 2 teeth out.

Disclaimer:
This is what I would do, do it at your own risk, I have no idea of where your timing is, so it is up to you to decide if this is safe.

which side shall i move over one more tooth? the same side i changed earlier? ill take a picture and show you once i get it in place.

im sure the harmonic balancer is lined up with the line on it and the arrow.
then the side with the BIG HOLES on the cam gears should be facing inward but does it have to be facing perfectly inward?

[ThirdStrike]

the thing is i forgot to mark the sprockets with the block.. i just marked the belt and sprockets and matched it up. when i was putting it on i moved the sprocket by accident and didnt know where it should be after that.

dude pull your valve covers and check the tooth marks on the cam shafts.
rotate your crank until you see them line up (or attempt to line up)

[bastosmafka]

dude pull your valve covers and check the tooth marks on the cam shafts.
rotate your crank until you see them line up (or attempt to line up)

no need to take off valve covers to check the teeth. im standing in front of my car right now.

this is where im at right now. the setup WITH backfire. on the right side it was a tooth to the left off so i went right one tooth.
sorry for shitty cellphone pics

<br>

<br>

[bastosmafka]

im thinking the timing with backfire is the best setting. i moved everything a notch 1 over each side on both sprockets and n other option is doing better. what else could i check? vacuum? do a compression check too?

[bastosmafka]

if you look down. theres a dirty blue hose on the right side of the throttle body thats not connected to anything. where does that connect? i didnt remember ever pulling that out of anything when i was disassembling everything.

[bastosmafka]

i wont be able to get to work tomorrow.. damn

[bastosmafka]

soooooo i took the intake mani out because i couldnt figure out where that hose goes. in the darkness under the hood. couldnt find anything like the bentley showed in the picture. in the vacuum diagram. i gave up and bolted it back up. i was putting the spark plug wires back up and i noticed they werent on right. OMG i feel like such a douche. hha anywho i started the car up. but i have a HIGH idle. what can i do about that.

[slopoke]

ELOEL You sir are a Dumbass, but you made my night...Thank You!

[slopoke]

You may have to reprogram your TB...

Reset your battery then turn the car to the on position for 30 sec then start it...

Or you may have a vac leak

[bastosmafka]

wow so harsh. whatever