APR 93 Octane 2.0T Chip?

[JRMSLINEA4]

Whats everyone opinions?

[A4A4A4]

good

[Arin@APR]

We have a bunch of dealers in PA. If you have any hesitations about power gains before buying it, you can try it out for free. Our dealers are able to install a 6 hour trial so you can see how it feels.

[autoverruckt]

all good here.

[AF4]

Highly recommended

[rnp614]

yum.

[08audi]

i have had it for about 20,000 miles, night and day difference. just be ready to replace your diverter valve eventually.

[A4A4A4]

Honestly, I don't think you're going to find very many people on AZ who will tell you not to do it.

[JRMSLINEA4]

Thanks to all for the quick replys I'm sold!

[JRMSLINEA4]

We have a bunch of dealers in PA. If you have any hesitations about power gains before buying it, you can try it out for free. Our dealers are able to install a 6 hour trial so you can see how it feels.

Cool. I did contact Tom @ APTuning and will go to them.

[Alky]

I have an 05.5 car. I've read that the FSI pump on these early cars sometimes isn't up to the task of supplying the extra fuel? Can anybody clear that up for me?

[CapstoneJHS]

For the Stage 1 tune, stock pump is fine...

[autoverruckt]

I have an 05.5 car. I've read that the FSI pump on these early cars sometimes isn't up to the task of supplying the extra fuel? Can anybody clear that up for me?

You will be fine with a stage 1 and no bolt-ons. But if you are wanting to chip and slap on all bolt-ons, then you may run into problems.

[sysadlight]

I'm headed out tomorrow AM to get my APR 93...I still can't believe it jumps from 200/207 to 241/292tq...

I traded an 05 G35 6MT for this 2006 A4 2.0T, and have babied it so far. It's only got 10K on it, with the 100K warranty. I waited 3.5 years into owning the G35 before modding and started with a Borla cat-back, which I loved, and then traded the car 9mo later. The G35 had 298hp and 260tq, maybe a bit more with the Borla, and now the A4 can possibly be faster with just the APR 93?

The only thing Im worried about is the diverter valve, but since I can put it back into stock mode, and it's still well within warranty both mi and time wise, if the dv fails, the dealer should replace under warranty right? Anyone experience any other issues with a stage 1 tune?


Went to one APR dealer, and the shop and state of the place (was a dive) scared me away, as well as the overall attitude towards the APR tune and their thoughts on it. The one Im headed to tomorrow hopefully will restore that confidence.

The one thing that rang true from the first APR dealer I talked to said that the biggest thing he has seen is that people wait too long to do this sort of thing. We keep the car for several years, put 80K miles on it, then decide that since the warranty is almost up maybe should start tuning...then months or a year later sell it..and the investment is wasted.


Any thoughts? Thanks guys (and gals)!

[sysadlight]

Is the APR 93 better or worse with the tiptronic rather than manual? Does it make any difference? Seems like with tip, I'd be able to crack off the upshifts a bit faster and cleaner?

[Alky]

I waited 3.5 years into owning the G35 before modding and started with a Borla cat-back, which I loved, and then traded the car 9mo later. The G35 had 298hp and 260tq, maybe a bit more with the Borla, and now the A4 can possibly be faster with just the APR 93?

Lol, no. The A4 will make less power, have more drivetrain loss, and still weighs more. A stock g35 will still walk all over you.

[AudiWxGuy]

GIAC-X all the way!

[sysadlight]

Lol, no. The A4 will make less power, have more drivetrain loss, and still weighs more. A stock g35 will still walk all over you.

haha Booooo

But the difference between the stock A4 and the APR 93 is night and day right? RIGHT? Tomorrow Am is coming fast...need to make that decision!

[08audi]

disagree about the stock g 35 comment. i have a 93 octane apr chip and awe exhaust. My MT quattro is faster than my buddys 6sp manual G35 from a roll in 1st gear and from a hard lauch i pull from him even worse (given i do have all wheel drive though..)

[08audi]

i know i said i have an exhaust but im just saying, a chipped manual quattro A4 can easily hang with a stock G35

[UGwagen]

AWE-TUning has a DV solution that users (with modded 2.0T's) verifies that it is very robust, at the same time very cost effective.

http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shar...train&IL=awedv

technically, with almost 30k chipped with APR 93, I haven't had boost issues yet.

[chrislane31]

I have had APR for almost 60k and replaced the stock DV at about 45K.

[ItsThat2.0T]

Get APR or REVO, whichever is closer.

[rnp614]

disagree about the stock g 35 comment. i have a 93 octane apr chip and awe exhaust. My MT quattro is faster than my buddys 6sp manual G35 from a roll in 1st gear and from a hard lauch i pull from him even worse (given i do have all wheel drive though..)

Thats surprising. Sedan or coupe? Good driver?

[autoverruckt]

haha Booooo

But the difference between the stock A4 and the APR 93 is night and day right? RIGHT? Tomorrow Am is coming fast...need to make that decision!

It is very common to have extremely high expectations after its chipped so here is what you do.

1) drive for a month - get your butt dyno used to it and let the car really "learn" its new software.
2) then put it in stock mode and prepared to be floored at the difference.

The most noticeable difference is in everyday driving with usable torque down low, and 0-70 feels pretty good too. The car will still run out of steam in the upper rpm range as the little turbo can blow no more. :)

[AudiWxGuy]

It does...But you still have way more pep after 80 in 3rd and 4th. Makes passing on the highway very fun. I have GIAC-X and did a 0-60 run tonight in 5.85. Pretty good, I think.

[rnp614]

Wowza. The extra boost of that GIAC + your exhaust seems to really net you some good results. I hope once I add some exhaust I'll be able to pull a 6 flat/high 5 number with APR 93.

[AudiWxGuy]

The dynolicious program said I had a max HP of 290.....I don't think so...But to the crank, according to AWE, it's in the mid 2's.

[autoverruckt]

It does...But you still have way more pep after 80 in 3rd and 4th. Makes passing on the highway very fun. I have GIAC-X and did a 0-60 run tonight in 5.85. Pretty good, I think.

I miss my S4's 80+ punches. That car's HP shined from 80-120 so my frame of reference is slightly skewed.

[Bmeister]

Thats surprising. Sedan or coupe? Good driver?

Beating a stock G35 coupe isn't surprising with a chipped 6spd A4 Quattro...and a good driver behind the wheel of the A4. While the G35 has more peak horsepower, it does not have as fat a powerband (area under the curve) as a chipped 2.0T.

[AudiWxGuy]

All those engines, Acura, Honda, Infinity, seem to make their power once over 5k RPM's. They all seem pretty slow below that. Now, if you can get those cars in stick, they are more fun to drive as you can rev higher. But the auto's are slow until they get going and can stay in their RPM band. My friend has the Acura CL Type S and I can beat him off the line consistently. I can beat up to about 60...and that was without a flash in my car. I'm pretty sure that with the flash, the Audi is faster then that car, and maybe even the previous gen TL....Also, A4's stock have way more low end torque then the prev gen TL.

[rnp614]

I had to go through some online reviews of the ol' G35 and I was surprised to see it actually has a good amount of torque. 298/270 or so if I'm not mistaken HP/TQ. A decent advantage over a chipped 250/290 heavy ass A4...

[AudiWxGuy]

As if there was any confusion. Those cars are not slow by any means.

[Quattro2.0]

Word on the street is GIAC chips are stronger. Dont go by me though

[AudiWxGuy]

Check out my sig.

[sysadlight]

I had to go through some online reviews of the ol' G35 and I was surprised to see it actually has a good amount of torque. 298/270 or so if I'm not mistaken HP/TQ. A decent advantage over a chipped 250/290 heavy ass A4...

Yeah my old 05 G35 6MT was down to 260tq due to the manual, and always had to rev it out to really feel the power come on. I like the idea of not having to wind it out all the time and beat it in the A4 to get the power...

Can't wait for the tune this AM.

Will let you know. Thanks for all the advice and thoughts.

[sysadlight]

We have a bunch of dealers in PA. If you have any hesitations about power gains before buying it, you can try it out for free. Our dealers are able to install a 6 hour trial so you can see how it feels.

PA would be good except I live in NH ;)

[sysadlight]

It is very common to have extremely high expectations after its chipped so here is what you do.

1) drive for a month - get your butt dyno used to it and let the car really "learn" its new software.
2) then put it in stock mode and prepared to be floored at the difference.

The most noticeable difference is in everyday driving with usable torque down low, and 0-70 feels pretty good too. The car will still run out of steam in the upper rpm range as the little turbo can blow no more. :)

Appreciate the advice. Ill do that.

I didn't see any responses from tiptronic cars...most of you seem like you have the 6MT models. Anyone here have the tip and care to share any issues or likes/dislikes?


****Sorry just read your sig...looks like you have the tip model.



Thanks again

[Great White]

I like it, a lot. I log every time I fuel the tank and my fuel efficiency DID improve (about 1mpg avg) and duh! it's a much better driving experience.

[JRMSLINEA4]

I like it, a lot. I log every time I fuel the tank and my fuel efficiency DID improve (about 1mpg avg) and duh! it's a much better driving experience.

Same thing with my car I get 1-1.5mpg ave with the reflash. It's like having your cake and eating it. My car has been reflased for a few weeks now and I'm just as happy now as when i got it done. I would like to drive another A4 with a different reflash to compare but I can't believe someone got it better than APR.