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    Rank these (best to worst)

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    I've been searching, asking, reviewing, and working hard to buy myself a set of coilovers for my car. Please look at all of these coilovers and ranks them from best to worst.

    - Stasis Street Sport
    - H&R Coilovers (1.6"-2.5")
    - Koni Coilovers (dampening adjustable)
    - Vogtland Sport
    - Ksport
    - Tein Basic

    EDIT: Einbach Pro street

    I want a pair of Stasis but I can get H&R's for cheaper. I can get the Ksport for the cheapest but I have not heard good things about them.

    With all the sales going on I want to keep my spending limit around 1100. On purems I can get the H&R's for $1000 while at Kinetic I can get the Stasis for 1100.
    Last edited by VTAudiA4; 12-09-2008 at 09:49 AM.

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Konis and Stasis have Lifetime warranty for original owner. Just something to consider before purchasing.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings VTAudiA4's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    Konis and Stasis have Lifetime warranty for original owner. Just something to consider before purchasing.
    That is definitely something I am would consider. Thanks

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    kw v2 for the win, im slammed and yet its very comfortable
    If it aint Euro its Shit

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    fks fwi...i love mine. comfortable yet low, smooth ride and are great for cornors
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    I have the STaSIS SS's, love em. (They're Koni's). I am sitting around 25" fender to ground and they're very comfortable - we have the worst roads in the world here too, haha!

    Sorry I can't comment on a ranking, but I have also heard Vogtland's name in a lot of favourable convo's.

    edit: watch for sales.. I bought mine from Kinetic Motorsports in BC, Canada (since I am in Canada)... after the favorable shipping cost and sale that was on, they were almost identically priced to the Koni's.

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    EIBACH?
    STaSIS, then Eibach: nothing else matters. TUV means something, along with how long they've had it.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    i guess ill chime in and be a bit different. I LOVE my H&R's they are by far my favorite.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Kyle H's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    My stasis streetsports are great. The reason you hear about vogtlands is probably the startup racing vogtland GT setup which is amazing, I've never heard about their regular coilovers....

    Here's a little mini-review I wrote a while ago in this thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle H View Post
    haha, wow! I didn't know you had bumped this thread... I just searched for it to give as a reference to a guy over on audiforums and noticed you posted! crazy stuff.

    So, about these coilovers...
    I've driven >10,000 miles on them, at least 500 miles of that was in the twisties... One auto-x day, and two days at the strip.

    Ride quality around town is great, i can drive over railroad tracks without hurting myself too much, freeway expansion joints aren't too bad, there is no porpoising, the car just soaks up the bumps and keeps on going. It rides much better than my parent's '03 silverado 1500 still, if that means anything.

    There is more body roll than I'd like, but I'm still on stock sway bars so I can't expect too much... the car still understeers, though while autocrossing it is possible to toss the car around and get it to oversteer. With stock power I can barely get the car to squat (even launching at 4k rpms), and the brake dive is minimal. Steering response is still dull compared to a mini cooper s, but very sharp compared to any other cars I've ridden in/driven.

    I love this setup, the only thing I'd say is make sure you get the big and small coilover wrenches for the big and small collars on the strut body, they only sent me the small one and it put little divots into the large collar. The coilovers held up to a winter of snowboarding almost every weekend with no corrosion visible, and after a quick spray with the included Koni lube stuff, they aren't too bad to adjust.

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    I too have put a lot of thought into my next set-up and plan to go with Stasis.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    My vote is for Stasis/Koni. I don't have anything against H&R, but the same rules apply to buying coilovers as everything else. Spend the money and do it right the first time. It's twice as expensive to change it down the road.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    FWIW, when I get mine I am getting the Stasis SS. They will match my car nicely (brilliant black) and if any occurance of failure, that lifetime warranty will def be a benefit. I have seen thread of blown coilovers for H&R and the Eibach ones. I am sure they are good quality, but anything is prone to failure. And I would not want to pay for replacements if I do not have to. Plus the Konis are highly praised in many applications.

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    Konis and Stasis have Lifetime warranty for original owner. Just something to consider before purchasing.

    eibachs have a million mile warranty on them as well

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Here is why I went STaSIS;

    You cannot adjust the rebound characteristics on (most) coilovers while installed on a B5 A4. I know a lot of people with co's through autox and whatnot... too many of them with Japanese rides, which allow full adjustment through the top of the strut. Most have found their sweet spot, but typically via some experimentation.... we don't get that!!

    To adjust that characteristic on our cars would be bloody painful to me, having to half disassemble each corner for a turn. Height adjustment is fairly easy.

    I am not sure if the other brands come "set-up", but what STaSIS does, is take those awesome Koni's and presets everything to work with our car, right out of the box. No adjustment required, except for your height. I have read mixed word about anything done to the inside of the Koni's (valving?)...

    I have a very limited driving season here, so I did not want to blow a couple week ends monkeying with that stuff. And frankly, just didn't want to monkey with it regardless.

    So for just a few bucks more - I was able to buy the full Koni setup, already pre-set for my car, specifically. I did in fact turn them a notch tighter upfront.... but that was it. Buy, install, done.

    Just my .02c (and that's CDN money, so... haha).

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    I have the Eibach Pro Streets and so far so good.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    H&R !!!

    stiff and responsive but not harsh or bouncy.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    how about the neuspeed race springs??
    http://www.mjmautohaus.com/catalog/p...products_id=72

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Quote Originally Posted by ayfour99 View Post
    how about the neuspeed race springs??
    http://www.mjmautohaus.com/catalog/p...products_id=72
    because those arent coilovers ?
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    KW V2's or V3's if you can afford em
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    im seriously considering getting these Tein COs. Had their springs before and loved them, but idk if anyone has any experience with the coils. Theyre really popular among the Japanese guys.
    http://www.raceinspired.com/ps-8837-...1996-2001.aspx

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    So, as it looks like its Koni or Stasis. I think Koni's are a good way to go because I can adjust the dampening. Also, since Im in VT and we get a ton of snow I want to be able to crank the car up during the winter and have a moderate drop during the rest of the season. Thanks for all the input. Anyone else have anything to say?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Kyle H's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    STaSIS takes Koni coilovers, upgrades some of the bushings, sets the dampening, and sells them as their own. They will actually come in a Koni box and will be branded as koni.

    If you're stuck between those two, go with stasis hands down.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings VTAudiA4's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Wait...now I'm confused. So are Stasis damp adjustable?

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    The tein super streets are easily damp adjustable. Unlike stasis and koni you don't have to take them off to adjust - just turn a screw. Anyone have anything bad to say about them?

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Quote Originally Posted by VTAudiA4 View Post
    Wait...now I'm confused. So are Stasis damp adjustable?
    Miss my post a couple up? Yes, they allow dampening adjustment (BUT NOT AFTER THEY ARE INSTALLED - to my knowledge there are no c/o's at this price point which offer dampening adjustability after installation), I incorrectly referred to it as 'rebound'.

    That's right, STaSIS takes Koni shocks and works them for you.

    I am not saying this to be a dick, but do you know who STaSIS is? What you are paying for is the application of their knowledge and understanding of our car through race experience into that set of Koni's you are thinking of.

    HTH :)

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    Senior Member Three Rings TverRus69's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    Quote Originally Posted by B5Burn View Post
    Miss my post a couple up? To my knowledge there are no c/o's at this price point which offer dampening adjustability after installation

    Miss my post right before yours? http://www.modbargains.com/product.a...et_Audi_A4_KM3

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    Veteran Member Three Rings B5Burn's Avatar
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    No, I didn't miss it. I was referring to the OP's request - looking at the Tein Basics from his list (are those adjustable post install?).

    I have not heard great reviews (nor many reviews) of the Tein's for our cars, and haven't heard anyone resoundingly praise them in any circle either, but they're out there. With the Tein product you posted, I see pricing ranging from $1300 to $1500, at that time, I would save a little more and just go with the STaSIS Tracksports for $1800 in a heartbeat. No comparison. But it looks like both of these are too much for the OP anyway (feature wise).

    It is very hard (didn't say impossible) to scratch the reputation of the like's of Koni, H&R, Vogtland which have been staples in our community pretty much - forever. Take one of the top street car track racing teams around - which is exclusively VW/Audi - applying some of their know how to a proven kit like Koni and I was sold. Plus like I mentioned, I got a steal at close to the price of the Koni's alone.

    I don't think the op would be disappointed with any of the top 3 he mentions, plus I keep hearing of some great reviews from KW.

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    i have nothing else to offer but my experience with KW V2's....
    some of you read my previous threads on my disappointment, and if not, here you go.

    After getting all new control arms, motor mounts etc... and having the v2's adjusted to even the most agressive settings (non adjustable rear, only the front rebound can be adjusted)
    My a4 handled like shit. it was sloppy, and you could feel the weight around every turn. The body roll was awful and I wasn't all that low, but still rubbed, probably due to my tire/wheel/spacer choice, but regardless, I have never been so unhappy with a coilover setup. Yes, the ride was comfortable, but if I wanted just comfort, I would have stayed stock.
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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    It's impossible to rank them unless you are clear on what you care about most.

    Do you want it to be...

    lowest?
    most reliable?
    smoothest for daily usage but still low?
    best performing no expense spared?
    best performing on a budget?

    The list of differences continues..

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    Re: Rank these (best to worst)

    The Tein Basics aren't damp adjustable at all. They are the simplest construction that allows you the least control over the setting. I also couldn't find them for the quattro - just FWD. A buddy of mine had the Super Streets on his Maxima and praised them. I had Tein springs and also loved them. I'm not arguing that they are better in all aspects than the Koni/Stasis coils, but they are more "user friendly" and cost $100 less (i know thats minimal but still). When i had easily adjustable Tokico struts (Illuminas) I loved the fact that i could adjust ride stiffness in a matter of 10 secs. When i knew that i was going somewhere far and the ride was going to be fun i could set it to the stiffest setting. In city driving i'd take it down a few notches. Also being able to easily adjust when its snowing is a big plus.
    I'm choosing between Stasis and Tein myself and it comes down to Audi/VW tradition against slightly more practicality and slightly more Japanese tradition. Honestly is a tough choice.

    BTW, what exactly is the difference between the Stasis Tracksport and Streetsport besides the springs and "stasis mounting hardware?" I don't see the "double digressive valving" on the Streetsport specs, but the struts look identical. Also from what i understood, the "double digressive valving" means that at low speeds it is soft while at high speeds it is stiffer: "Combining strong low-speed damping with digressive high-speed damping". Is this right? For some reason i don't think i'd want it to adjust - i'd rather know exactly what i can expect because I set it to that level.
    Last edited by TverRus69; 12-10-2008 at 12:23 PM.

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