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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    I definitely agree on the stripe of leds to go all the way where the corner light are.
    I'm going to take a look at that tonight. It's a simple move to slide them over as the plastic base isn't attached to the original housing anywhere yet.
    I did it the way it is because I was trying to flow off of the seam of the space between the hood and front fender. Kind of like an extension of that line. But, I can see where sliding it all the way over may work, too. But I think I'd still want to extend the straight line across the bottom over to where it sits now, at least. I'm not sure that stopping it in the middle of the headlight would look right. We'll see.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    u got PM lee
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    I see. This is a pretty ambitious project (In a good way). What were your thoughts on putting both notches facing the middle of the car? What about the notches facing each other? It would look like the four rings emblem. Does the notch have any impact on the beam from the projector?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamotee View Post
    I see. This is a pretty ambitious project (In a good way). What were your thoughts on putting both notches facing the middle of the car?
    Like this?



    That was original design before I even started with the LED. Then, I started figuring that if I ran the LED across the bottom like I'm doing, then I could turn both notches down and it would appear like they never had them. The notch doesn't affect beam because the lens stays stationary. Only the surrounding "notched" trim spins.

    I wouldn't say "ambitious". Shaving the seams on my bumper was ambitious. With plastic fab know-how, this is all pretty easy and can be done quick. I just want to take my time and get it to look as close to what Audi might've done (if they made this for B6) as possible, not just hack away and throw an LED strip in the easiest/fastest way I can. For those who need the car as DD, it would be tough. But mine is in pieces all winter for the engine build anyhow.

    Kirk- PM replied. That would be awesome and exactly what I'm looking for. This LED "strip" is not what I want as final product, but since it's flexible and the LED's are equidistantly spaced, it's great to work with in the initial planning phase. Once I have the design locked, I do want to switch to large bright-white individual LED's drilled in to the plastic base.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Dosen't look bad at all!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    i love it, good job brotha!!

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Fucking Awesome.

    You won't believe how lazy some people are over here in the Mid. East..I'm seeing all types of cars, hondas, lexus, toyotas, g35s all attempting to have some LED lighting on their front end.

    So..they get these LED strips, run them on the OUTSIDE of the headlight towards the bottom, and tape it down! LOL ... I've even seen some people use LED strips where their grill would be.. its just getting really fucking ugly

    My point is, your shit is fucking clean as hell! I hope you took progress pics because im expecting a DIY! hehe..

    Keep it up man!

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Update. Tried this pattern. It isn't totally straight and level across the bottom, as I was just tossing the idea around. I also made the LED further apart at 3cm (from 2cm on the last pics).









    Knowing that this version was just thrown together when I got home tonight and will be made perfect if I roll with this, which do you all prefer, and why?

    This:



    Or this:

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    thats not what i meant though.
    keep it like the firstbut end it where the corner is. It looks great though I want a DIY asap please
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    thats not what i meant though.
    keep it like the firstbut end it where the corner is. It looks great though I want a DIY asap please
    DIY would mean that I take pics while I'm brainstorming, lol. That'll never happen. I can never think to take a pic when my brain is more in to what I'm doing.
    On the LED pattern, do you mean like the first way, but run the strip all the way to the edge closest to center (past the high beam projector)? I like that much better. I'm not sold at all on the latest design taking all the way over the fender line before curving up. It looks strange when the seam of the trunk and fender are over towards center like 3 inches.
    I'm not sure what was meant by "running light" as a reference point, then, as on ecodes, there is only a turn signal. The running light on e-codes would normally be a small bulb in the huge high beam housing, but since that's replaced by a projector housing, the running light wires will be used for the LED's.

    On the "corner light plastic piece", do you mean the clear lens cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by monkey323i View Post
    this is the BEST SEXY LOOKING LED mod I've seen in this B6 forum.
    +1 for this post.

    Dam, you have no idea how much I want to throw this in into my B6 !! >.<

    Will really appreciate if you post a DIY for this.


    far better than this:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=LED+headlight
    Nah man. I can't rip on someone else's ideas. He did what looked good to him and I can't fault that. He didn't have the time I can afford to make it evolve in to something. Trust me, my first design was nasty.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    maybe if the corner light little plastic piece is removed it would look better
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    this is the BEST SEXY LOOKING LED mod I've seen in this B6 forum.
    +1 for this post.

    Dam, you have no idea how much I want to throw this in into my B6 !! >.<

    Will really appreciate if you post a DIY for this.


    far better than this:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=LED+headlight

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    [IMG][/IMG]

    I know my photo shop skills are beyond amazing but what do you think?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    I know my photoshopping skills are beyond amazing but what do you think?
    That's kind of what I'm trying to avoid. Sometimes the simplest answer is the best. I don't want to get too creative on the design. I'm trying to follow the lines the car itself gives, not just the headlight bulb housings. And I don't want more than one curve, and no more than a 1/4 circle anywhere.
    I've tried a bunch of stuff like your photoshop, but nothing looked natural. It seems like a good idea, then you put it in and fire it up and say "WTF was I thinking"?

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    Oh and yeah the DIY is hard when you are brainstorming I know. LOL when im doing it though expect lots and lots of pm my friend.
    Yeah, a DIY sometimes is easier when I'm answering tons of PM's everyday. I don't mind answering anything about it when someone is attempting it. But man, my inbox was flooded for weeks when I did the Joey mod way back when.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Oh and yeah the DIY is hard when you are brainstorming I know. LOL when im doing it though expect lots and lots of pm my friend.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    [IMG][/IMG] ITs obviously completely up to you sir but i think this is a hit.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    where you have it right now is the best. Don't touch it.
    That will be absolutely killer when you finally get done with it.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    This is still my favorite:



    But, I want to extend the LED out more towards the center to make the straight across part a little longer. Which will work nicely once I add some more space between the two projector housings.
    It flows out of the hood seam better, and is easier to fabricate and overlay with CF. The design from tonight in the pics above where it goes all the way past the turn signal and curves up won't be easy because I'm using single LED's on the final version, not the flexible strip used in the prototype. As such, I need room behind it all for the LED wiring. That isn't a problem all along the bottom, or behind the "curve up" of my original design from page one. Over past the turn signal, however, that would mean I'd have to build out some plastic, or drill through the headlight lens to have the LED sticking out of the back of that portion of the headlight and in to the space behind the fender. Not fun.
    All youz haters can make your own damn design, lol. I'll come back to it this weekend and see if my thoughts are still the same. Sooner or later I'll stumble on the design that just "works".
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    [QUOTE=rxrep;3143549]This is still my favorite:




    That's the best one so far, I would like to see the LED's all the way towards the center grill.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Exactly the way you want it, the way it is but extended more towards the grill, will be perfect. Rotate the projectors like you said, and move them to where there is a bit of seperation and less dead space at the inboard side of the housing. I think it's an excellent idea and if executed as you plan, it will look great, and almost OEM+.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    WOW, Looks sick! Great job!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    defnitely looks awesome...
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Lee, great work so far. I'm with you and agree the first design looks better and have the LEDs extend all the way towards the center.

    Curious question on high beam projector. Is that also going to be Xenon to make it a dual Xenon setup, or are you still using the halogen bulb? If Xenon, is there any delay when flashing the high beams?

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Thanks Paul. I guess the stupid college elective classes in sculpting are paying off with heavy use of modeling clay to form the mold, lol.
    As for the high beam, I'm keeping it halogen. Simply for the reason you'd stated. Xenon takes too long to fire up. I figure if I use some uber-white knock-off H7 halogens, it will be pretty close to matching the xenon lows. Since I ripped out any beam blocking metal inside the high beam projector, it is like a blitzkrieg light now anyhow. It lights up everything.
    After looking inside the projector housing, I can't believe how much of the light output is blocked on the low beam.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    so what is the verdict?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    The coolest part is how the cutoff plate is on the bottom of the projector...I am viewing everything upside down right now
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Do u have Bi-xenons? if not what it does is when u flip the high beams on the cut off plate folds down to allow as much light as possible, if u had bi-xenon lows and H7 uber white highs with no cut off plate u'd blind at least 4 people.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    Do u have Bi-xenons? if not what it does is when u flip the high beams on the cut off plate folds down to allow as much light as possible, if u had bi-xenon lows and H7 uber white highs with no cut off plate u'd blind at least 4 people.
    Nope. Just regular old Xenon lows and halogen highs with the cut off plate removed from the highs.
    If I even see four people where I live then the state prison must've had a breakout, lol.
    I'm on the edge of civilization, and I rarely use my high beams. When I do, I want the baby Jesus to light up the night sky for me.
    I ran the whole setup tonight. Let's just say I can't get a pic because it just turns out like a flash of white. Low beams are normal since the cut-off plate is still there for those. When the highs come on, especially with the fogs too (my fogs stay on with high beams with the VAG mod), it is pretty blinding.

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    so what is the verdict?
    Verdict is original pattern with extension towards center, and more separation between the two projector housings with the lens surround trim notch pointed down. Hope to have one done this weekend with the LED strip; I'll prolly have about a 4 week wait for the single 10mm super bright single LED's to arrive (the LED strip only has tiny 3mm LED's).

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    The coolest part is how the cutoff plate is on the bottom of the projector...I am viewing everything upside down right now
    Not sure I follow. The low has reflection from camera flash because of the metal cut off plate. It's still in the regular position and will be even when I turn the trim around for the notch to face down. It appears as though it's on in the pic but that's just flash. The high beam, however, has no cut off plate in it anymore at all, so no reflection from the camera flash.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    so my idea was bad or just too much work?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by golgo13 View Post
    so my idea was bad or just too much work?
    Yes.
    You pick which part I'm referring to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turb_Oh_A4 View Post
    im really interested in the dual projectors... will you make a DIY or walkthrough?
    I'll be happy to answer any questions, and hopefully I'll remember to take a couple pic-a-tures. It's real tough to do a DIY on something that wasn't done before me. I'm basically doing trial and error on everything, so I'd take a whole memory card of pics and then a long time sifting through them to find the ones that actually did evolve in to a final product.
    In addition, if you don't have fuzor/duramix experience and know what you are doing with pastic fabrication and moulding and then CF or fiberglass overlay, a DIY would mean nothing.

    Back to Golgo13- It's not that your idea is bad, and I think you should try it. I'm just really looking for simple and not ornate. I don't want multiple curves and really wanted to stick to one Audi has already done. Couple that to the fact that, YES, it would be a beeyatch to fabricate, and a bigger bitch to overlay with the CF, and mor expensive for the single LED's. They aren't too cheap.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by rxrep View Post
    Not sure I follow. The low has reflection from camera flash because of the metal cut off plate. It's still in the regular position and will be even when I turn the trim around for the notch to face down. It appears as though it's on in the pic but that's just flash. The high beam, however, has no cut off plate in it anymore at all, so no reflection from the camera flash.
    he's saying how it's crazy that the cutoff plate inside the projector is on the bottom.... so you'd THINK that all the light on the bottom would be blocked, and it'd only shine up high (top half) but since lenses and light are weird (this was my least favorite part of physics... lenses and mirrors.. yes - i hate it more than fluid dynamics) then the image flips over and it lights the bottom half and the cutoff blocks light that would shine up high and blind oncoming drivers
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    im really interested in the dual projectors... will you make a DIY or walkthrough?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Word good luck to you. make sure to put up pics of the final product. PM me if you can letting me know where you purchased the parts. thnx
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Separated projector housings some and flipped the low beam lens trim notch to the "down" position. Ghetto pic, but you get the idea. Putting LED backing piece back in tomorrow and may be doing CF overlay on Sunday if all goes well.

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Do you have secret to pulling off those chrome surrounds? I had the HARDEST time pulling them off!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    Do you have secret to pulling off those chrome surrounds? I had the HARDEST time pulling them off!
    Do you mean the surrounds of the projector lens? You have to know where the tabs are and get a thin regular screwdriver in there to pop them out. Easy as pie. There are four per surround. But if you have one off, you prolly already know that. Remember where they are approximately.
    Otherwise, PITA if you're just trying to pull the surround off.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by rxrep View Post
    Do you mean the surrounds of the projector lens? You have to know where the tabs are and get a thin regular screwdriver in there to pop them out. Easy as pie. There are four per surround. But if you have one off, you prolly already know that. Remember where they are approximately.
    Otherwise, PITA if you're just trying to pull the surround off.
    Yes, I am referring to the projector surrounds. What I was trying to use was a U-shaped pick.

    From which angle are you coming in at to access those tabs? You surely cannot get the from the back....can ya?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Man, I'm still in "just woke up" mode. I thought you wrote "a U-Shaped prick, lol. I thought for a second I was on the Chit Chat forum.
    From the lip of the surrounds. Go in between the trim and the housing that holds the projector lens itself. It seems like it will break, but it doesn't. You just have to slide the screwdriver in right where the tabs are. Get one undone, then hold the trim so it doesn't slide back, and move the screwdeiver to the other tab on that side (using top and bottom as the two "sides" I'm referring to). Once you have two tabs released, the other two don't need a screwdriver; they just pop right off.
    It does take some force to get the screwdriver up in there. Like I'd said, at first you will feel like you may break something. But it's all good.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Actually man, a buddy of mine is learning all that stuff here at one of the community colleges. he is going to start doing CF work on his 30 series powered TT real soon. he is doing lots of fab with pastic as he has already learned that in class. i would fully trust this guy to do my headlights, if he had something to go on I'm actually going to tell him about this tomorrow at our dyno day to see if he is down. Thanks for the time and answer!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    pics?
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