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    Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

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    I originaly was going for the B8 A4 LED shape/pattern. But the curve up towards the center would get in the way of the high beam projector.
    So, I went with a modified A5/S5 pattern. The difference is that I didn't extend the LED all the way to the edge. It just kind of flowed better with the B6 this way.
    I used e-codes, and canibalized the low beam projector out of my old stock housings and formed it in to be the new high beam. Took out all inside metal beam cut-off blockers for the highs so the high beam is bright and has no beam cut-off.

    • Yes I know there are still holes. I haven't finished off that part or covered with CF yet. The holes are from putting the projector housing in where the old huge high beam housing was.
    • The LED are not "blue". I couldn't get the pic to take them as "white" as they are. They match the HID low beam color. Those with LED's know what I mean. The appearance of the low beam is only due to the flash of the camera. The lows and highs are not hooked up yet.
    • These aren't close to done. I've been messing with the LED curve, and have even adjusted it somewhat already since the pics were taken to flow better off the seam angle between the hood and front fender. In addition, everything in the interior of the housing will be covered with Carbon Fiber (and I'm in doing the splitter and all grilles with CF overlay, as well). And the LED will have a small "eyelid" cover across the top of the LED strip, and a semi-clear lense cover will go over the LED. Right now they are just exposed.
    • The red line you may see is just dry erase marker on the clear lens so I can get the angle I'm looking for. It rubs right off.
    • The LED are spaced 2cm apart.


    Anyhow:





    This one is where you can see the holes in the high beam area. Those will get covered and then overlayed with CF.



    So that's it. The interior of my ecodes is chrome. Which made them hella cheap to buy. It didn't matter because I knew I was covering them in CF. But right now, they look like ass and are picking up reflections in a way that the CF won't when completed.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Oh, thats something else... Need more pictures from faraway plz :)))
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Finally someone that actually did a nice job on the LED's. That looks nice bro .
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Are you using a B6 lows for both? Did you turn the "high" beam so the notch is down?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    x2 on the far away pics
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Can't do far away pics at night, because the LED blend in to each other on my shitty camera. I'll try to get some at around dusk as I progress. In real life, there still is separation between the LED's. I can't stress enough that this is no where close to done.... I'm doing little things, taking a day or two off, then coming back to it to see if my idea was valid or looks like ass. This stage is just getting the LED the way I want them.
    I post these just to see feedback and ideas on something I may be missing. I'm not trying to be the first one done. I'm trying to make them quality and pleasing to the majority of people.

    And yes, I turned the notch on the "new" high beam projector to face down. I'm not quite sold on that yet, as symetry to my eye would have that notch look the same as the low (to the side). But I'll see once I fill in and CF overlay that huge hole next to the high beam.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Lee those look fantastic!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Very nice!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    i might rock those.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    I like it, looks clean!
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Hmmm. I'd like to say...NICELY done.

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Thanks all. You all don't have to be so nice. I know many of you have the "everything sucks" gene, so have at it.
    I like feedback because maybe it helps me see something in a new light before I actually start finishing these up and can't change it then. Like I said, I'm trying to make them right, not be the first to have them done.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    RXREP, your shit looks like ass bro. Headlight housing is falling apart? WTF is that? Do it right or don't do it at all.

    PS, why you gotta cramp my style? No seriously, I did my LEDs before the S6 even came out with them!!! HAAAAA. No, seriously! Please believe me guys... anybody?

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    i say we ban the liar that posted before me...

    As for the OP just take some pics during the day and stuff also so we can see how they look.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    not feelin it man...our bodystyle doesn't fit them IMHO. props for the work tho

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Originally Posted by TURB OH A4
    i say we ban the liar that posted before me...
    Did you buy that plea for credibility? Really?

    RXREP, where did you grab the led strips from? Also, what did you do to separate the lense from the housing?

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    lol
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by Turb_Oh_A4 View Post
    lol
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    nice. make a DIY.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Best effort yet.

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    wire them up so the illuminate when you unlock the doors
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    wire them up so the illuminate when you unlock the doors
    that would be dank!!! My friends R32 turns on the xenons when you unlock, he always makes fun of me since mine don't .
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Those look really good, want to do some for me?

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Im not a fan .... I think its making the car look too ricey... Thats my opinion though

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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by HeymyA4 View Post
    Im not a fan .... I think its making the car look too ricey... Thats my opinion though
    Yeah, I was going for that Nissan headlight look.... wait..... I was copying an Audi, so I'd call it more like "sauerkraut-ey", lol. Just out of curiousity, what is your opinion of them on the A5/S5, and if they aren't ricey in your opinion, why?

    I'm hoping the people not liking them have more valid reasoning. Stuff like "the LED's are too close together" or "the curve isn't right" or even ideas as to how they might do it.

    But all feedback is welcome. In the end, all that matters is if I like them. But I'd rather make the changes now than not be able to after the CF is layed on.

    Oh, and finally, WTF is "dank"? It appears good, but rhymes with "stank" and "skank", so I'm confused. Sucks gettin' old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Certified MD View Post
    RXREP, where did you grab the led strips from? Also, what did you do to separate the lense from the housing?
    eBay, cancelled out every other one (they are too close together as they come). Housing separation is standard Joey mod. Used a heat gun and lots of cuss words and threats to scare the halves apart.

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    wire them up so the illuminate when you unlock the doors
    That would be cool, (or maybe "dank"), but I wouldn't have any idea how to do that and still keep them as running lights. Ideas would be appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turb_Oh_A4 View Post
    As for the OP just take some pics during the day and stuff also so we can see how they look.
    That ain't happening until I have the interiors done. Right now, with all the plastic fabrication and 20 different colors of junk, they look like ass. These pics were only to see the opinions of people concerning the shape of the LED and the concept I'm shooting for with dual projectors. Daylight and close up pics from all angles won't be until after I do the carbon fiber overlays.

    Quote Originally Posted by pyro View Post
    not feelin it man...our bodystyle doesn't fit them IMHO. props for the work tho
    Appreciate the feedback, although I strongly disagree. If you notice, the curve I'm trying to take flows right off the hood seam, and matches the same curve of the lower center inlet of the USP lower, and the outer curve of the fog grille. Considering the front ends are pretty similar outside of the big-nosed center portion of the newer models, I think it flows great on a B6, IF the thought process in the design looks at all the aspects of the B6 front and tries to tie-in well and not look like an afterthought.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    I like the work, nicely done, but am thinking, why not do something unique other than the look of the new B8 or R8? Doing so on a B6 makes it sounds like you are desperate for the new look for the B8 on a B6...thats OMHO.

    How about putting the LEDs around the lights, removing what you have already? or some other design? You can play with photoshop till you design something nice. That unique look will make it stand out real nice. Something no one have ever seen before



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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by mxrz View Post
    hey toi.. I added "or some design" JUST for you
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by jackyaudi View Post

    ^^imagining the line you have is out
    I like your thought process, and actually messed with that very design around the bottom of the projector housings.
    I decided against it because it didn't flow with the whole front end. It didn't look "Audi" and drew too much attention away.
    I also tried running an angled line down the side closest to the center grille, and then a sharp angle to a straight line across the bottom. I kind of liked that and am still toying with it, but the LED's don't look right with them so close to the center IMHO.
    I'm not trying to be an S5; my car isn't that slow, lol.
    But there is a design aspect to the Audi factory LED's that just works. They knew what they were doing.
    I did something a little different from the real A5/S5 because I didn't run the LED's all the way to the edges of the housings, top and center side, like the A5/S5 does.
    I'm shooting for a look that the average person would look at and not realize it isn't factory. I want someone without Audi knowledge to look at the front end and just think it's one "them-there Audis from the TV commercial". The more ornate the design is, the more it looks aftermarket/added on and not OE.
    Especially in a time when many are trying this very mod, or buying the eBay devil eyes, and I'm even seeing Hyundais doing funky DIY LED mods (they're actually calling it the "R8 mod")- it makes the most sense to me to try for a look that Audi already has out there. Helps keep the po-po away, too.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    looks awesome lee!

    really my only gripe is that the strip doesn't continue to the edge of the housing? (or is it just a bad angle?) you did a SUPER job with the dual projectors, i love how it looks. perhaps to make it flow better you could give it a "Z" sort of shape where it curves up to follow the fender line you were already going for, and then across the top over by the turn signal bulb. (just an idea)

    also, for turning them on when you unlock the car -- my only idea would be to have them on the same circuit as the interior lights (since they do that too) ... the only problem would be when you turn them on would it power up the interior lights as well?

    perhaps a modified "coming home" feature would be able to do it (use it like a "switch" to arm the feature and then so that after the car has been unlocked they stay on for a bit and then the switch would open the circuit. thus turning them off, and keeping the circuits separate so that when used as running lights they won't affect anything else.)
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    rxrep: the thing you said that I like most is that Audi really did match the overall Audi look with their LED design. It would be hard to find a good alternative, but I guess you are already trying.

    Do you have a pic of your headlight housings without any LEDs?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    can you post a night/dusk pic far away?
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    wow, amazing work. I honestly thought the two projector design with CF couldnt possibly look any cooler and then I saw this and found out I was completely wrong.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by jackyaudi View Post

    Do you have a pic of your headlight housings without any LEDs?
    I could do that, however there is plastic fabbed in to hold the LED's, so you wouldn't see anything different than if the LED's wer switched "off". I literally built up a plastic base for the LED for the whole pattern. They're not just freely sitting there.


    really my only gripe is that the strip doesn't continue to the edge of the housing? (or is it just a bad angle?) you did a SUPER job with the dual projectors, i love how it looks. perhaps to make it flow better you could give it a "Z" sort of shape where it curves up to follow the fender line you were already going for, and then across the top over by the turn signal bulb. (just an idea)
    I like that idea, however I don't have a long enough LED strip to do it now. And no, they don't go all the way to the edge of the housing. I was trying to be a little "different" while still keeping the general pattern of the A5/S5 LED.
    When I originally ran it to the edges, I let it sit a few days and came back to it and still thought it was too much. I want it to be drastic, yes, but not so much that it would be all anyone would look at. So I shortened it up. Nto sure if that was the right call, but again, I was trying for the "effect", but didn't want to completely "copy".


    can you post a night/dusk pic far away?
    Answered up a little bit in the thread. There is a point with my shitty camera where the LED's blend in to each other, even though in real life the LED's have definition. But I'll try. The other problem is that I am only working on one headlight. So the driver's side has a big hole where the headlight should go. So, I'd rather wait until I have both LED strips installed.

    Quote Originally Posted by jon102034050 View Post
    wow, amazing work. I honestly thought the two projector design with CF couldnt possibly look any cooler and then I saw this and found out I was completely wrong.
    Thanks! This weekend's project will be to create a small separation between the two projector housings, and turn down the lown beam lens surround so the inverted curve "notch" on the low beam is gone (so it looks like the high beam- a complete circle). I want it to appear as two complete circles and not one circle (which would be the high beam) with the low having a notch in the side where it meets the high beam. I think that will make it more symetrical, and has the added benefit of moving the bulb insertion portion of the high beam to a better spot for the rear cover to close over it. It's real tight due to the depth of the projector housing.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Quote Originally Posted by rxrep View Post
    Thanks all. You all don't have to be so nice. I know many of you have the "everything sucks" gene, so have at it.
    I like feedback because maybe it helps me see something in a new light before I actually start finishing these up and can't change it then. Like I said, I'm trying to make them right, not be the first to have them done.
    In that case... Lee those suck and all your hard work means nothing becasue I think they suck donkey dick. lol

    Just kidding. I really am more interested in the projector high beam, I thought about it but have been too lazy to get my OEM headlights out of the attic, plus I drive my car everyday so I would have to finish in one day.

    The LEDs to me look a little small, but since you aren't going for exact A5/S5 look then they work. I would just keep tinkering with the curve, too straight in the original pics.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    Lee they look great the 2 projector idea is so awesome! As for the LED strip, i would rather use some bigger LED's with a slightly more powerful output so they match the spacing of the A5's the best way to do that would be to make a plate in the shape u want and drill holes and wire the LED's in a line and space them as u wish with the little projectors for the LED's that would be outstanding.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

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    Too "straight"
    Where? I'm open to all ideas; just not sure what you mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    Lee they look great the 2 projector idea is so awesome! As for the LED strip, i would rather use some bigger LED's with a slightly more powerful output so they match the spacing of the A5's the best way to do that would be to make a plate in the shape u want and drill holes and wire the LED's in a line and space them as u wish with the little projectors for the LED's that would be outstanding.
    That's in the works, lol, because there is a plate fabbed behind the LED strip already. The LED's just aren't sitting in there; there is a whole plastic fabricated build-up that the LED's mount on. Problem is, while I can find bigger diameter LED's I haven't seen any more bright. I've already tried with stand-alone LED's on an initial design because I didn't like how close together the strip LED's are. So instead, I just cancelled out every other one to give it space. When the frosted lens cover goes over the LED's, they appear to be bigger because of the slight distortion. I don't have the lens cover on in the initial pics. They won't be "exposed" when it's done. When the LED's are off, all you'll see is a lens cover across the whole strip.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    I would like to see some pictures of the LED strip moved to the other side of the running light while keeping the strip the same length.
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    Re: Rough prototype A5/S5 style LED headlight done

    I definitely agree on the stripe of leds to go all the way where the corner light are. It would make it flow better I think. Great job though possible the cleanest job on them I have seen yet.
    Trying to be like an s5 people say? WHy in the hell would that be bad all the BMW people do it now with the halos.
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