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    400whp on k04s and pump gas

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    Edit: So we can conclude, that without a doubt, there are many many strong running k04 based cars running real, and verifiable 400whp setup.

    Myth or reality?

    Im not talking happy dyno numbers or methanol injection "pump gas", im talking real world pump gas.

    I have personally run 380whp with a half assed leaky setup including boost leaks, 9:1 AFR, a sweet 2.5 inch exhaust and RS4 "intercoolers". On 19psi

    And thats on the local mustang AWD dyno. Since then ive cleaned things up, ditched the old 440cc tune, shitty exhaust, shitty intake, and wee little interfoolers. Oh and fixed that little issue with half my lifters being worn down and not working right.

    Not to mention adding about 4-5mph to my traps. Im reeeeeeeeeassonably certain ive picked up one or two HP.


    How many other 400whp rides we got here?
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    I think its possible. Your set up has to be top shape and a good tune. I would love to see some dynos and a parts list. I will most likely be going this route with my next S. I think 400awhp and an 11 sec car is more than good enough for a DD

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    well im close to 11s as it is. Just have to get a cool day where they are either spraying VHT or following the drag radials.

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    my car dynoed 100whp.....


    I have no clue what my car will put down. Never been on a dyno

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    lol

    sell your car!

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilevo View Post
    my car dynoed 100whp.....


    I have no clue what my car will put down. Never been on a dyno
    I would definitely say over 400awhp. And you have more up top power since you dont spike and can keep X amt of boost all the way to redline.

    Im planning either ko4's or rs6s, depends on if the rs6s are worth it without rods. Either way, this summer will be interesting.

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by BastardS4 View Post
    lol

    sell your car!
    Now why would i want to do that?

    I just did RS6s and have to prove some people wrong ;)

    I want 450whp or more on pump after it is finished tuning

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Myth and I know Shawn (GenJDM) will agree with me.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by haus4 View Post
    I would definitely say over 400awhp. And you have more up top power since you dont spike and can keep X amt of boost all the way to redline.

    Im planning either ko4's or rs6s, depends on if the rs6s are worth it without rods. Either way, this summer will be interesting.
    Well I'll let you know what it does when it is fully tuned. Cant decide if i want to be tuned for Meth or not. Car should be finished in about a month or so

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Myth and I know Shawn (GenJDM) will agree with me.
    What is a myth?

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Mine aswell if i dont put down 475+ on e85 iam selling my car and buying a 06 m3 full boltons and a 150 shot

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Myth and I know Shawn (GenJDM) will agree with me.
    could well be. I know im damn close, and unitronic has tuned a couple of 94 octane k04 cars close to the 420whp mark. And his dyno is just as unforgiving.


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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Ive seen a bunch of dynos of ko4 S4s making 375 to 385awhp..i think 400awhp may be pushing it, but i would think its possible if you through enough cash at it. I would think w/m would be needed though.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilevo View Post
    What is a myth?
    An imaginary or fictitious thing.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/myth

    Quote Originally Posted by BastardS4 View Post
    could well be. I know im damn close, and unitronic has tuned a couple of 94 octane k04 cars close to the 420whp mark. And his dyno is just as unforgiving.


    Shawn, get in here.
    VAG Motorsports with a unitronic tune could barely crack 380.

    The turbos are just too small and cannot push enough air. I believe 430ish on race is about the max. I think just below 400whp can be achieved on 93.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    We have never had such a high level of quality boltons to throw at these cars as now.


    Can we call 55mm rs6 wheels crammed into a k04 a bolton?

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    An imaginary or fictitious thing.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/myth
    O rearry? damn, i had my definition of a myth wrong all along. Carry on than

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    I hear that in order to have 400whp you need at least 3 stickers on the ECU box and at least 2 window stickers
    |MRC-Tuned Stage 3| | RS4 K04 Turbos | | RS4 Y-Pipe | | RS4 Airbox | | RS4 Fuel Pump | | 60lb Siemens injectors | | ER SMIC | | APR Bi-Pipe | | All JHM Goodies | Vogtland GT | | Porsche 993 TT Brakes | | 034 Motor & Trans Mounts|

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    i know of a car on Marc's tune, 93 oct pump, k04s, that made about 398whp recently on a mustang dyno. Car was running pretty rich too and could of def. broke 400whp on pump with some small tweaks.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    There is a local to me who is putting 42X down and its detuned on rs6 ko4's, but he's also cammed. Not sure if that's race gas or pump though. It was on the cover of eurotuner, black s4 with the gold stasis stickers on it (he doesnt roll with the stickers though).
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    if you had all rs4 bolt-ons you would achive well over 400whp-

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Wasn't there like 3-4 pjk04 cars making between 460-490whp in the past, i recall always seeing posts about them. Theres 2 pjk04 cars on the tial post that r over 450whp

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by AielloS4 View Post
    i know of a car on Marc's tune, 93 oct pump, k04s, that made about 398whp recently on a mustang dyno. Car was running pretty rich too and could of def. broke 400whp on pump with some small tweaks.
    Whose car was that?
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    Whose car was that?
    some slow nogaro car.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas


    93 octane on a 93 octane apr file
    no meth
    timing was 9 degree's total with like 7 degree's pull.
    rs4 intercoolers
    80 degrees ambient F
    DYNOJET CORRECTED NUMBERS.. 404 awhp uncorrected.
    its no myth
    00110100011100100110100101101110011001110111001100 001101000010100000110100001010

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by AielloS4 View Post
    some slow nogaro car.
    Ohhhh... you didn't tell me you went to a dyno!
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by generationjdm View Post
    Wasn't there like 3-4 pjk04 cars making between 460-490whp in the past, i recall always seeing posts about them. Theres 2 pjk04 cars on the tial post that r over 450whp



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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGunn View Post



    E85 No meth, Full weight, no games.

    APR ECU explorer.
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    that was your car tommy?

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    E85 No meth, Full weight, no games.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by generationjdm View Post
    that was your car tommy?
    Yes sir, that was done november 11th. No new logs to post really, the car has been put down unwillingly for the winter.

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by BastardS4 View Post
    Myth or reality?

    Im not talking happy dyno numbers or methanol injection "pump gas", im talking real world pump gas.

    I have personally run 380whp with a half assed leaky setup including boost leaks, 9:1 AFR, a sweet 2.5 inch exhaust and RS4 "intercoolers". On 19psi

    And thats on the local mustang AWD dyno. Since then ive cleaned things up, ditched the old 440cc tune, shitty exhaust, shitty intake, and wee little interfoolers. Oh and fixed that little issue with half my lifters being worn down and not working right.

    Not to mention adding about 4-5mph to my traps. Im reeeeeeeeeassonably certain ive picked up one or two HP.


    How many other 400whp rides we got here?
    how did you know half your lifters were bad? what symptons bastard?

    depends what you consider pump..In CA all they have is 91..no way any car gets 400 whp on any accurate dyno there..about 380-390 tops with straight 91...other states 91 is even better than ca 91 too.

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGunn View Post
    Yes sir, that was done november 11th. No new logs to post really, the car has been put down unwillingly for the winter.



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    theres no question in my mind your car would of went lowss at mid to upper 120ss on the e85

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    shit son, isnt that what the tial cars do on race gas? How can that possibly be?

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by generationjdm View Post
    theres no question in my mind your car would of went lowss at mid to upper 120ss on the e85
    The time i did get it to the track on E85 was hell. It was really cold I got there REALLY late. I used the N2mb WOT box, I didnt get a chance to drop the tire pressure on my ultra high performace A/S GoodYear Eagle GT tires. So I launched at 4000K, SPUN ALL THROUGH 1's. Then missed second really bad, and my time was 13.0 @ 121. Sigh.. oh well. Hopefully next season goes better.
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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGunn View Post
    The time i did get it to the track on E85 was hell. It was really cold I got there REALLY late. I used the N2mb WOT box, I didnt get a chance to drop the tire pressure on my ultra high performace A/S GoodYear Eagle GT tires. So I launched at 4000K, SPUN ALL THROUGH 1's. Then missed second really bad, and my time was 13.0 @ 121. Sigh.. oh well. Hopefully next season goes better.
    didnt u shut down early also? Anyway 11.60 at 120+ on regular pjk04ss on pump at proof of full weight and exhaust with no meth or anyother mod is freaking awesome

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGunn View Post



    E85 No meth, Full weight, no games.

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    How do you make a graph like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilevo View Post
    How do you make a graph like that?
    with a pen and paper. haha just playing, its in the ecux software

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    Quote Originally Posted by generationjdm View Post
    with a pen and paper. haha just playing, its in the ecux software
    do you know how? I cant figure it out
    Last edited by Evilevo; 12-08-2008 at 06:27 PM.

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    Re: 400whp on k04s and pump gas

    There is a local car with straight 91+meth who made 380whp on a Mustang Dyno. Those numbers are over 400 whp on a dynojet.

    Also I do not think there is a way to make over 400whp on 91 with out any other mods such as meth. At least on straight k04's.

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    hhhmm something tells me Tommy purchased a GenX kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    hhhmm something tells me Tommy purchased a GenX kit.
    i have done no such thing








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