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    I did a search and only came up with a flush for an A8... I used that to do mine, but there are a few differences...

    If I create a write-up w/pics on a doing a ps flush on a B6 3.0L... would anyone use it? Or has everyone just used the A8 flush as a start...

    Update:

    Okay I'll update this with new info as I need to take one or two better pics...

    This was done on a 04.5 B6 3.0L with 32k miles on it. It began making noise when I started it up after thanksgiving... When I checked the fluid, it was low, but after looking at how dirty it was...I couldn't sit idle, especially after hearing about folks replacing pumps/racks/etc... I'd rather just flush it with clean fluid

    Materials/tools needed:
    Pliers
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    10mm socket & ratchet
    T40 (I'll have to check which one exactly) torx bit (for socket driver)
    4' of clear 3/8" hose
    Male/male 3/8" hose barb adapter
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    Milk jug (or some receptacle for the old fluid)
    Small plastic bowl/lid (I used the plastic lid from a can of bondo)
    Brake cleaner
    Paper towels/rags for cleaning any mess
    2 Liters of OEM power steering fluid (part #G-004-000-M2) $18/liter
    (I didn't realize this was so blurry...I'll take another one)


    Procedure:
    First, remove the single screw holding the plastic shroud on the driver's side of the engine.



    Next, remove the two top screws that hold the driver's side headlight in place, and then loosen (don't need to remove) the two lower screws holding the headlight in place (4 total for headlight). There are two plugs directly behind the headlights held by a plastic clip, they'll pop right out. You should be able to pull the headlight out a few inches to make some room. You don't need to unplug anything.



    Once the headlight is out, you’ll have access to a blue reservoir underneath. Pull out the plug assembly going directly into that container. Be careful since the hoses are hard plastic, but the plug in the reservoir should pop straight up, and out.


    Now, take a 10mm socket and remove the two bolts holding the top of the p/s reservoir in place. (For ref: the one with the large rubber spacer is closest to the firewall) Once those are removed, the reservoir should be able to wiggle a bit... If you look at the bottom of the reservoir toward the firewall side, you'll see the last mounting point for it. It's basically just pressed into a rubber mount. Wiggle the reservoir and it'll pop out.



    Now that it's free, you'll need to carefully wiggle the reservoir toward the front of the car, so the p/s hoses are no longer underneath the steel structure...continue moving it toward the front of the car, and move the hoses (going to the blue container) underneath the p/s lines... be careful when you do this part, as the hoses are hard plastic. You should now be staring at something like this:


    Now, locate the smaller hose (closest to the firewall) and use pliers to move the hose clamp down. You should have an idea now of how much open space is below the reservoir...use a dish/pan/tray/something small enough to fit under there, yet hold at least a pint of fluid. (I used the plastic top from a bondo can) Position this directly under where that hose feeds the reservoir. This will catch all the extra fluid in your reservoir. Now pull out the supply hose and drain everything out...should look disgusting...mine looked like this: (with only 32k miles on the clock)


    Now once everything's drained out, take a look inside the reservoir, you'll see the filter in its filthy glory:


    Take your can of brake cleaner and clean the filter, basically just spray it down, and let the excess drain into the collection pan you still have in place. When it's clean, it'll look like this:


    Now grab your golf tee, and your electrical tape. Wrap the tapered (top) portion of the golf tee with about 3-4 layers (winds) of electrical tape. This will help hold it in place, and create a seal to keep fluid from leaking out while you're flushing. Shove that tee into the supply hole of the reservoir so it's nice and snug:


    Next, grab your clear tubing, and your 3/8" hose barb. Insert one end into the clear tubing so it's past at least 2-3 of the barbs (if not all the way) and then insert the other end of the barb into the supply line of your p/s system. Use your pliers to move the hose clamp back up to its original location on the hose to keep it in place:


    Run the other end of the hose into a bucket/jug/something to gather the old fluid:


    You're just about ready to start flushing, fill the reservoir up all the way (not quite to the edge or it could splash out from startup vibration)

    Now you're going to repeat this procedure a few times... Start the engine, from the time it turns over, count to two quickly and kill the engine on two. After a count of 1, it will consume most of the fluid in the reservoir. In your clear hose, you'll see nasty fluid like this:


    Top off the reservoir again and repeat. You'll most likely get more black fluid coming out. On the third cycle, I started seeing green fluid. I also didn't kill it quite soon enough and got some air bubbles along with it:


    I did it quickly, one last time to get all the air out and make sure I was only pushing clean fluid. A total of 4 cycles and all is well.

    Clean-up/Re-assembly

    Now do your best to get all the fluid you can out of the clear hose. Position your plastic tray/cup/etc...Underneath where the two hoses are adjoined. Use your pliers to slide down the hose clamp, disconnect the hoses and collect the extra in your tray. Pull the golf tee out of the reservoir and collect all of that fluid as well. Re-attach the supply hose to the reservoir, move the clamp back up, and re-install everything in reverse order of above. Wait until you have the reservoir mounted before you fill it with fluid again, this time, only fill it to the 'full' mark. Run the car for a minute or so just to make sure you get all the air out of the system and everything’s working okay. Turn the steering wheel back and forth a few times to make sure it works through the rack. Check the fluid level again, add more if necessary, and then continue re-assembly. When re-installing the headlight, pay attention to the body-lines where the headlight lines up with the bumper, as you have some adjustment room with the lower two screws.

    FYI: Here's an excerpt from the Bentley manual on flushing various parts of the system:
    Power steering system, bleeding Different bleeding procedures are required after repairs to the steering system, depending on which components have been removed or replaced.

    After replacement of the entire steering system or steering gear:
    - Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    -Raise vehicle until front wheels are free.
    - Start engine briefly (max. 2 seconds)
    -Pump must not draw in any air; steering wheel must not be turned.
    - Wait approx. 30 seconds each time before starting engine again.
    -Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    -Keep repeating this procedure until fluid level remains constant.
    -With engine switched off, turn steering wheel 10 times from lock to lock.
    -Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    -Start engine. Turn steering wheel 10 times from lock to lock.
    -Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    -Any air remaining in the steering system will dissipate when the vehicle has been driven 10 to 20 km.

    When other steering components (except steering gear) have been removed or replaced (e.g. pump, hoses, etc.):
    - Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    - Start engine briefly (max. 2 seconds)
    - Pump must not draw in any air; steering wheel must not be turned.
    - Wait approx. 30 seconds each time before starting engine again.
    - Check hydraulic fluid level and top off if necessary.
    - Keep repeating this procedure until fluid level remains constant.
    - Start engine and allow to run for 2 - 3 minutes; do not turn steering.
    - Any air remaining in the steering system will dissipate when the vehicle has been driven 10 to 20 km.
    That should be everything. You now have clean fluid, and a smooth running steering system. I used around 1.5 liters total, so you should have 1/2 bottle left for later on. If any of this isn't clear, or you'd like further explaination, please let me know and I'll update it. Gracias.
    Last edited by koolade9; 12-21-2008 at 08:07 PM.

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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    kinda strange that there are several people posting about p/s fluids in B6's these days, don'tcha think?

    i'd love a DIY too.

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    Go for it I'll be the first tester once it's written.
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    I'd like to properly flush mine as well.
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Might as well.

    Ill be replacing my steering rack in the next week or two, and flushing the ps system will be on my list of things to do.
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    Yea im a 3.0 ...go for it....

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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    PLEASE!! You'd make my month! I have 65k on the clock and I REALLY REALLY want to do this, but dont want to hurt my car. So please enlighten us AZ'ers with a b6 P/S DIY

    Thanks!

    (as you can tell, I am very excited your doing this... I really want to flush mine!)
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    I'd be willing to do a write-up as I'm due for this service, I just need to pick up some more fluid. From what I remember, it is actually quite an easy task on the B6.

    I need to do my transmission fluid too, then I should be 100% up on my services for at least another 30,000 miles; spark plugs, oil and filters aside.
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    Nice....Get back to us

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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Okay, updated...

    Pos/Neg feedback appreciated.

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    Oohh that fluid was nasty! Good job!
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Need more pictures when you pop off the resavoir (spelling). Also which hoses to tap into.
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Quote Originally Posted by Boosted3.0 View Post
    Need more pictures when you pop off the resavoir (spelling). Also which hoses to tap into.
    Yeah, those were the ones I realized I was missing... I have placeholders for em

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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    great write up.... looks like i have something to do this weekend!!!
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Good write up, how much was the mineral oil from the dealer? I have a small container (pint) of G-002 which I think is the non-synthetic used in the B5's but I'll pick up a larger tank of the new fluid from my local dealer. I prefer to go from the PS cooler lines under the car to keep from spilling anything in the engine bay.
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Quote Originally Posted by Dopefish View Post
    Good write up, how much was the mineral oil from the dealer? I have a small container (pint) of G-002 which I think is the non-synthetic used in the B5's but I'll pick up a larger tank of the new fluid from my local dealer. I prefer to go from the PS cooler lines under the car to keep from spilling anything in the engine bay.
    It was $18 and some change/liter from the dealer. I really didn't spill anything. A couple drops here and there that wiped up pretty easily.

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    Do u notice the car turning easier and does the P/S system whine/moan when the wheel is turned all the way?
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Also, instead of having to start and stop the car every two seconds to check the p/s level and top it off, couldn't u just like take the hose insert where you shoved a golf tee and run a hose from it to the p/s fluid in the bottles that way u run the engine once, never worry about the resivour getting air in, and u stop the process the moment you see clean p/s fluid coming out of the pipe?

    Love the DIY, im doing it this weekend for sure! Just thought id put my two cents into the loop hehe
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Quote Originally Posted by Frey7190 View Post
    Do u notice the car turning easier and does the P/S system whine/moan when the wheel is turned all the way?
    well if the P/S pump still whines, you need a new one. Just wait until it gets really loud lol

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    Oh man I hate my local dealer.. I call asking for 2 liters of P/S fluid and they tell me the price is $26.86/liter! God I hate Socal, everything is so fing over priced.. So now ill have to wait for ECS to ship me some..

    Also I took the dip stick in the PS and took a drop or two and put it on a paper towel and the fluid still looked yellowish.. Like it wasnt at all brown/black like yours..
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Quote Originally Posted by Frey7190 View Post
    Oh man I hate my local dealer.. I call asking for 2 liters of P/S fluid and they tell me the price is $26.86/liter! God I hate Socal, everything is so fing over priced.. So now ill have to wait for ECS to ship me some..

    Also I took the dip stick in the PS and took a drop or two and put it on a paper towel and the fluid still looked yellowish.. Like it wasnt at all brown/black like yours..
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    gave me some ideas for my b5. bookmarked, and good job!

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    did you go to Walter's in Riverside?
    Nope, went to Pacific Audi in Torrance...
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    wow this is a really good write up.
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    Re: power steering fluid flush DIY

    Awesome write up! I wouldn't have had the confidence to try this if it wasn't for your step by step.

    Want to add that it is a T30 Torx bit that holds the headlight in, atleast in my case ('02 3.0L), not a T40.

    Oh and for me at least, the 3/8" barb adapter was much too small even with the clamp over it, it would drop in and out with no resistance what so ever, I wrapped it in some electrical tape as well to make it thicker and it held, but still leaked and spurted out quite a bit. I'd recommend the next size up barb if that isn't too large.
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    thanks for the how-to. i'll be doing this myself in the near future, either after steering rack replacement or ps pump replacement (or both).

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    Good writeup

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    excellent write up

    I bought the fluid and Sunday is p/s flush day


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    Curious to hear the results of this. My pump made some god awful sound the other day. Hoping to stop its whining in its tracks.

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    If your fluid is really really bad do the flush, wait a few weeks and do it again.
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    Just wanted to say this was a great DIY and should be added to the DIY section. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopefish View Post
    I'd be willing to do a write-up as I'm due for this service, I just need to pick up some more fluid. From what I remember, it is actually quite an easy task on the B6.

    I need to do my transmission fluid too, then I should be 100% up on my services for at least another 30,000 miles; spark plugs, oil and filters aside.

    The transmisson fluid will be dirty black like that too. It needs to be drained/filled a couple of times to get most of the old fluid out. The pan will have l lot of wear particles that settled out of the fluid, the second drain/refill should not have nearly as much. (Pentosin ATF-1 FTW) I need about 8 liters to drain/refill my tip.

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    thanks for this, did this last night on my car and my buddy's. switched over to M1 ATF at the same time too. steering response feels much better now
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    bringing this back up...is it any different for a 1.8t? also...am i just removing the lines that are attached to the resivoir, blocking one off, and making one longer? theres really no clear pics of the lines that were disconnected. thanks
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    You disconnect 1 line from the reservoir and lengthen that line so that once the pump turns it'll pump fluid out of that line into your old oil container or whatever instead of pumping it back into the reservoir.

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    yep...i agree, though, it is tough to see what is going on in the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDIaholic View Post
    You disconnect 1 line from the reservoir and lengthen that line so that once the pump turns it'll pump fluid out of that line into your old oil container or whatever instead of pumping it back into the reservoir.
    ok thanks, that makes sense. so what line is he sticking the golf tee into to plug?

    and that hose looks like 3/4" not 3/8"...anyone have any insite on this? is it really 3/8"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezero30 View Post
    ok thanks, that makes sense. so what line is he sticking the golf tee into to plug?

    and that hose looks like 3/4" not 3/8"...anyone have any insite on this? is it really 3/8"?
    you plug up the smaller of the hoses obvisully, since a tee wouldn't fit in the larger of the hoses.

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    ohh ok im the idiot as u figured out. i didnt realize he was plugging the resivoir. so take line off, extend line, and plug resivoir where line connected. right?
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    Yeah, that's right. Allows you to circulate the fluid into the spare container instead of going back into the reservoir.

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