Snow tires + Quattro =

[Rajan147]

= BEASTIE

First major snowfall, couple of inches of snow, no big deal for blizzaks and quattro. Immediate difference, its amazing what a different compound makes.

[haus4]

, never got the chance to drive my car in fresh snow. Hopefully i will be able to soon

[SonicBlur]

S4 + snow tires = AWESOMENESS!!

-Mike

[jblinga]

S4 + snow tires = OVERKILL!!!!!! They are a waste unless you drive on snow 24/7. Just wait ill they're gone after one season of driving on blacktop 95% of the time.

[BastardS4]

kind of depends on where you live.

most decent snow tires are also better on blacktop in the colder weather. Doesnt just need snow to be useful.

for example i lost pretty badly to a car with snow tires vs my summer in freezing temps.

Annihilated off the line.

[jblinga]

I live in salt lake city so snow is a normal thing for me. I was refering to treadwear as blizzaks are a very soft compound and wear away quickly if not driven on snow. I speak from prior experience.

[gointoscott]

= BEASTIE

First major snowfall, couple of inches of snow, no big deal for blizzaks and quattro. Immediate difference, its amazing what a different compound makes.

First major snowfall is a couple of inches???

Thats not even close to a major snow fall. Thats just a dusting

[Rajan147]

First major snowfall is a couple of inches???

Thats not even close to a major snow fall. Thats just a dusting

I was excited, i put the tires on yesterday so the timing was perfect.

I live in salt lake city so snow is a normal thing for me. I was refering to treadwear as blizzaks are a very soft compound and wear away quickly if not driven on snow. I speak from prior experience.

Debbie downer, your raining on my snow tire parade. Traction and safety is a priority over tread life right now.

[OldYella]

Im jealous, Im still driving with my summer tires. This happens every year, I hate putting the ugly 16" wheels on the S. Time has come again though..

[Rajan147]

what tire size do your run on you 16's?

[HotSauce]

S4 + snow tires = OVERKILL!!!!!! They are a waste unless you drive on snow 24/7. Just wait ill they're gone after one season of driving on blacktop 95% of the time.

Ignorance.

You still can't stop, quattro or not.

When you total your car, you'll feel great saving that few hundred dollars a year in insurance.

[mholme]

They do wear faster than Nokians and maybe other winter compound tires. I think maybe that was his point. But snow tires definitely are not a waste of money.

[jblinga]

Ignorance.

You still can't stop, quattro or not.

When you total your car, you'll feel great saving that few hundred dollars a year in insurance.

Its not ignorance, its experience. I've seem to manage to drive 9 years in a winter envorment with no accidents. One year with blizzaks and the rest on all seasons. Snow tires and quattro don't make up for bad driving skills.

[RenegadeEngr]

Its not ignorance, its experience. I've seem to manage to drive 9 years in a winter envorment with no accidents. One year with blizzaks and the rest on all seasons. Snow tires and quattro don't make up for bad driving skills.

Don't worry, 9 years driving as well , in Iowa, no accidents, but from your tone I doubt you've had very much fun

[HOFFY11]

i just put chains around my tires when it snows, they lock on right through the rims =D..(not held resposible for totaled rims through chaining tires) ;]

[RenegadeEngr]

Anyone heard of these tires....looks kind intriguing

http://www.greendiamondtire.com/

Has anyone on here ever put some Rally Flaps on for the winter?

[Tea Mandy]

I was curious if people are familiar with their local laws on this. I heard of someone around here who just got his 240 going in the winter, took it out for a drive on summers, crashed and proceeded to not get his insurance because he didn't have the right tires for the conditions.

Dunno if it's true or not, but it's what I heard. Also I would assume that all season tires would be allowed in the winter.

[mholme]

I was curious if people are familiar with their local laws on this. I heard of someone around here who just got his 240 going in the winter, took it out for a drive on summers, crashed and proceeded to not get his insurance because he didn't have the right tires for the conditions.

Dunno if it's true or not, but it's what I heard. Also I would assume that all season tires would be allowed in the winter.

Different states have laws that require snow tires or all season tires during certain months or certain weather conditions. Also chain laws if applicable.

[nvrfollow]

the S did fine on a non maintained canyon road through 2+ feet of loose snow. we ended up helping out a lifted 1500 who couldn't quite cut it.

Quattro + snow tires FTMFW! All seasons FTL

[mholme]

the S did fine on a non maintained canyon road through 2+ feet of loose snow. we ended up helping out a lifted 1500 who couldn't quite cut it.

Quattro + snow tires FTMFW! All seasons FTL

All seasons FTL in 2+ feet of snow on an S4.. without a doubt...

All seasons in light to moderate snow regions..easily will do.

[jibberjive]

All seasons FTL in 2+ feet of snow on an S4.. without a doubt...

All seasons in light to moderate snow regions..easily will do.

Depends on the all-seasons. Falken 912's in the snow FTL, Blizzaks FTW

[tike0rz]

What a difference winter tires make. I just put mine on the stockies the other day, and not a moment too soon. We just got another snowfall last night, to which I had no recollection of. I was just driving normally :)

[Rajan147]

All seasons FTL in 2+ feet of snow on an S4.. without a doubt...

All seasons in light to moderate snow regions..easily will do.

Problem is you never know how much its going to snow. The roads where I live aren't usually too bad, but after last years snow storm, I'm not chancing it.

I'll post some pics of the snow and tires later today.

Its not ignorance, its experience. I've seem to manage to drive 9 years in a winter envorment with no accidents. One year with blizzaks and the rest on all seasons. Snow tires and quattro don't make up for bad driving skills.

I dont consider myself a bad driver, but weather is something that is out of everyones control. I think its better to air on the side of caution. How well the roads are maintained is also a factor.

Either way, I love my blizzaks.

[rick_chicago]

I'm still skating around Chicago on Pilot Sport PS2's after 2 snows. Not fun.

[DanS4]

snow tires (blizzaks) are a must. Went out last night in a measly 2" and my traction control was lighting up constantly. Safety First

[BurnAll4S4]

this thread sucks without pics

[tike0rz]

this thread sucks without pics

pic from my window:

[BurnAll4S4]

snow tires (blizzaks) are a must. Went out last night in a measly 2" and my traction control was lighting up constantly. Safety First

blizzaks are junk dude....their dry ride and traction is terrible compared to other cheaper tires on the market.

[SonicBlur]

I have Blizzaks and I love them. As soon as the snow is gone for the season, the summer tires go back on. I've used the same set of Blizzaks for two winters, this will be the third, and I have yet to have an issue other than a nail in one of the tires. Blizzaks FTMFW!

-Mike

[djwimbo]

Ignorance.

You still can't stop, quattro or not.

The beauty of that statement will have my laughing for hours.

a vehicle (truck, car, van, I don't care what it is) coming to a stop on snow, will be able to stop more efficiently with snow tires than all-seasons. ABS or not, the name of the game is traction. This is why it's also recommended to run a skinnier tire in the winter than the summer.

[SilverStr33k]

i cant wait till my bilzzaks get here, i was too broke from fixin it recently that in still rockin Dunlop Z1 star specs and there is already about 6 inches on my font yard

[Shomegrown]

this thread sucks without pics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_7KTG9iyc

[mholme]

Depends on the all-seasons. Falken 912's in the snow FTL, Blizzaks FTW

True. But most M+S tires(maybe not high performance all seasons like the Falkens) will do in moderate snow. But belive me, I'm a huge advocate of snow tires if they are justified in your region for winter use.

[Shomegrown]

True. But most M+S tires(maybe not high performance all seasons like the Falkens) will do in moderate snow. But belive me, I'm a huge advocate of snow tires if they are justified in your region for winter use.

Sure, but the same all seasons then suck (relatively) in the summer too.

[NogaroWonda00]

S4 + snow tires = OVERKILL!!!!!! They are a waste unless you drive on snow 24/7. Just wait ill they're gone after one season of driving on blacktop 95% of the time.

yep quattro+all seasons=beast

and yes me and him do live in places where it snows, a lot!

I went up to keystone co yesterday to ski and it handled like a champ. I pretty much had every season on the way up too, dry, wet snow, and packed snow. Im pretty impressed.

nitto neogens are not too expensive and they work great in the snow and in summer

[mholme]

Sure, but the same all seasons then suck (relatively) in the summer too.

Exactly, that's why a lot of driving enthusiasts have season dependent tire/wheel packages, 2 seperate sets.

[1997gtx]

Sorry to thread jack, but if anyone is looking for a set of great snow tires on a set of painted stockers, PM me.

To the OP, a few inches feels like a 'major' snowstorm. The first snow of the season always does!
--Adam

[jibberjive]

True. But most M+S tires(maybe not high performance all seasons like the Falkens) will do in moderate snow. But belive me, I'm a huge advocate of snow tires if they are justified in your region for winter use.

It really does depend on the all season, and what you mean by "will do." The Falkens "did" for me last season, I didn't crash and didn't get stuck. They definitely didn't do near as well in the snow as my Maaxis v somethings all-seasons on my B6 quattro though and I'll probably be buying a dedicated set of snow tires to replace the Falkens when it comes time to use that car in the snow.

Sure, but the same all seasons then suck (relatively) in the summer too.

Again, depends on the all seasons. The Falkens were killer in the summer and handled the considerable road track use surprisingly very well. The Maaxis' on my B6 are not bad in the summer, but definitely softer than the stock high performance summer tires that they replaced (granted they are v-rated instead of Z)

I think all seasons have a place for some people in some locales, you just have to take in all the factors and decide case by case. Me personally, being in Utah, if I'm going to be running a high performance summer tire then I'm going to be buying a set of snow tires too. If not, I would go with my Maaxis tires again.

[Bimmerchop]

Generally, snow tires > all seasons for driving in the snow, plain and simple. I don't understand what's so hard to comprehend about that. Now it's considered "overkill" to be safe? Right.... Sure you can get by just fine with all seasons in certain snow conditions, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider investing in some nice winters if you can. Certain traction limitations are just out of the drivers hand, no matter how good of a driver you are, whether it be awd, rwd, or fwd.

Here's a good comparison vid that tirerack did comparing the two...

http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index.jsp?video=23

[B5stgIII]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_7KTG9iyc

New Background, thanks