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    Veteran Member Four Rings Jet Jockey's Avatar
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    ANNOUNCEMENT.>>> The car is getting serious engine modifications...

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    First today I had to put the MTM injectors on the machine to figure out their flow rate to see in they were sufficient for the new engine package... They are not, we need a minimum of 550cc and the MTMs just flowed 400cc.

    Second I stopped at a truck weighing station just to see where the car's weight is at after all the work we did to it. I'm glad to report that the car weighs less now than it did before the roll cage went in. I don't know how accurate the scale was but I will get it weighed properly once the diet is complete. For now it weighed in at 2970 lbs.

    Now back to my announcement...

    Well I decided to pull the trigger!

    As you know I decided to go for a 3076R with the Tial S/S housing, a TiAL external wastegate and a TiAL BOV. Also I am changing my FMIC and now going to a Setrab core. This means new end tanks need to be made and a complete revamp of the intercooler plumbing to fit the new turbo in its new location. Piping will go from 2 inches at the turbo's outlet and increase to 2 1/4 inches into the I/C. From the I/C's outlet it will be 2 3/4 inches and increase to 3 inches just prior to the TB.

    Also since I'm going with the SM4 standalone and will be switching to drive by cable we decided to switch to a VR6 TB because it is bigger than the DBW B6 TB. This leaves me room for further expansion in the future (AEB head).

    Once the new tubular exhaust manifold, downpipe, wastegate piping the I/C piping and new FMIC are built/test fitted to the car they will be removed. Why you say?

    Because we are pulling the motor out! At first I was going to get an engine refresh (although I was changing the rods) but now I decided to go for it!

    Yes I'm going for the 2.0l conversion. So the engine will be bored out and a new AEG 2.0l crankshaft is going in to stroke it. Supertech Inconel exhaust valves are going in too. We have decided on Scat forged rods (hope everyone is happy with this choice). We are also going to use coated bearings.

    Now the choice of pistons is interesting and I'm sure some of you are going to be surprised by it. I don't want arguments about it I have made my choice for good reasons. Please read the technical note on the pros and cons of these pistons at the end of this post.

    So we decided on CP forged pistons but instead of the 4032 alloy built pistons we went for the 2618 alloy built pistons because of their superior tensile strength and fatigue endurance over the 4032 alloy pistons.

    Now before the motor is assembled with all the new parts, it will be crated and shipped to a race engine builder/tuner in Virginia where it is going to be taken completely apart. All components will be cleaned in special “washing machines”. All parts old and new are going to be inspected. The block receives deck, bore/hone/line hone with billet deck plate. New crank will be inspected, mic'd, balanced, polished. They will quality check the new rods and pistons. The cylinder head is inspected for valve guide/parts wear and receives performance valve job (Inconel), surfaced as needed, valvetrain setup to spec. Everything is blueprint/clearanced. Then final clean and assemble timed, longblock.

    To get the power down to the wheels I'm going to have to upgrade the clutch components. Well for this I went with our friends at DTH. We decided on the multi disk single mass LWFW from Clutch Masters, the FX600. However the "regular FX600 from Clutch Masters comes with an aluminium billet flywheel and again I decided to go with Mike's recommendation and use the DTH specially commissioned steel billet flywheel version of the FX600, thanks Mike.

    Finally and this one is the icing on the cake… The shop I’m dealing with has an engine dyno. So my new 2.0l will be broken in, tested and finely tuned on their engine dyno. No more guessing as to how much power at the crank my motor will produce we are going to know for sure now. Later on when the motor is back in the car I will get some chassis dyno numbers, (Dynapak, Mustang and MAHA) and that should give us a pretty good look at drivetrain loss on three types of chassis dyno.

    There you go folks that the bulk of it. Work may start next week on the exhaust manifold and FMIC. I’ll be busy posting updates for sure. I don’t think we will be shipping the motor until after the New Year.

    ARTICLE ON 4032 vs 2618 ALLOYS (pros and cons)...

    Forged pistons, barring unique manufacturer's
    specifications, generally use two aluminium alloys,
    which are 4032 and 2618. Typical recommended
    applications are as follows: 4032 is a durable and
    lighter material usually used in naturally aspirated
    engines. 2618 Alloy is designed for the rigors of
    blown, marine, and nitrous applications.

    4032 pistons will have quieter cold start operations
    due to their tighter piston to wall clearances
    compared to 2618 pistons. This is due to the 15%
    greater thermal expansion seen in the 2618 alloy. 15%
    may seem l vs a lot, but do the math. Considering a
    piston to bore clearance of 2/1000's of an inch, 15%
    is only .0003". Once the pistons have reached their
    operating temperature, the noise (piston slap)
    differences should be nearly identical in volume
    between the two alloys. 4032 pistons will have reduced
    oil consumption and longer ring life compared to their
    2618 cousins due to their better cold start
    tolerances. While to many these physical comparisons
    point towards 4032, you must understand that 2618
    pistons, for their slight "defects", are clearly
    superior in terms of tensile strength and fatigue
    endurance to 4032. This is why most piston
    manufacturers specify the 2618 alloy for use in highly modified turbocharged engines.
    Last edited by Jet Jockey; 12-06-2008 at 06:21 AM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings boravr6's Avatar
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    Re: ANNOUNCEMENT.>>> The car is getting serious engine modifications...

    god speed!!!

    Any chance we can drop in and visit during the holidays? Get a first hand view of the work?
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    Re: ANNOUNCEMENT.>>> The car is getting serious engine modifications...

    Keep us updated, this is going to be a monster
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    Veteran Member Three Rings RS.Fez's Avatar
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    Re: ANNOUNCEMENT.>>> The car is getting serious engine modifications...

    how much will you charge to take people out on spins of the track in this thing?
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