gettin v-maxx, what do you think?

[Kronic Budz]

I have been doing some extensive research on v-maxx coilovers in the past couple days and also called the company that is selling them and spoke to the guy about them for 30 min.

For my needs, a lowered car, stiffened up and improved handling, no need to slam the car more then 45mm or more then 1.5 inches. And i am not going to be tracking my car. These coil overs are gunna work out great im almost positive. Many people have liked these coilovers and the b6 crowd is going crazy for the coils to be released for them soon.

with the holiday discount ending monday. You can get these things for $520 shipped and i think thats an awesome deal, no dampening adj but no worries.

Which b5's on this forum have had good experiences with these?




http://www.stratmosphere.com/vmaxx.htm

[big_greasy_taco]

Stock spring rates i believe... if your purely going for looks, you cant go wrong with the vmaxx.

[djwimbo]

We put a set on an S4 at my old work, it was an improvement over stock and added the drop. Ride quality was decent too.

I personally wouldn't do it, but I track my car. For you, they might be perfect.

[mainer0311]

I'm not 100% happy with mine. They aren't stiff enough. It does handle better because a lower center of gravity, but I don't believe that the spring rate is any stiffer.

Cooper

[b5s4tt]

i never ran them but look on youtube you will seen some blowwwn dampers. my opinion, buy some teins. who cares what everyone says, for 850shipped prostreetonline.com [with coupon] you cant beat it. they are a smooth ride

[Kronic Budz]

Stock spring rates i believe... if your purely going for looks, you cant go wrong with the vmaxx.

i find it very hard to believe that its stock spring rates, that just doesnt make any sense to me. They are progressive spring rates, the spring rate increases the more the spring is compressed. I have also heard the body roll is very minimal with v-maxx, that seems like that would be impossible if the spring rates were the same as stock..

We put a set on an S4 at my old work, it was an improvement over stock and added the drop. Ride quality was decent too.

I personally wouldn't do it, but I track my car. For you, they might be perfect.

ok well im coming from blown stock non sport, and i wont be tracking my car, and i wont be lowering that much either. Someone explained to me that the car drove way nicer after coming from sport susp on a b6 avant..

I'm not 100% happy with mine. They aren't stiff enough. It does handle better because a lower center of gravity, but I don't believe that the spring rate is any stiffer.

Cooper

Compared to stock sport suspension? So when you push down on the body of the car it has the same amount of give.. Same amount of body roll? Same stiffness over bumps?

[a4937]

i never ran them but look on youtube you will seen some blowwwn dampers. my opinion, buy some teins. who cares what everyone says, for 850shipped prostreetonline.com [with coupon] you cant beat it. they are a smooth ride

That's what I'm hoping to get next year sometime. Haven't seen them that cheap though.. I don't think.

[seanriv]

I have the Tein Basics for 800 and they are great. Stiffer feel and great handling. Best coilover for the price!

[discontained]

I have the TEIN SS Superstreet coilovers on mine i am most pleased with it.. i spent around 1500 bucks to the house.. [two thumbs up]

[Kronic Budz]

sorry guys i dont give a fuck about teins.

[B518T]

if you are looking for cheap....at least gain both a stance and performance...

you can pick up bilstein sport shocks and neuspeed race springs (2" drop) for $675 shipped from mjm autohaus....

gl!

when I was looking for suspension on a budget, I definitely contemplated v-maxx, but after reading into them, they are solely for show...and I needed a set-up I could auto-X with....

[biketsai]

I really dont see why you dont go with a nice set of bilsteins and lowering springs, they will provide for ALOT less body roll. There was a significant difference after I put my springs on last year. I couldnt imagine having body roll being as low as you may want, which might make the fender rub horribly.
Just my .02

[Kronic Budz]

if you are looking for cheap....at least gain both a stance and performance...

you can pick up bilstein sport shocks and neuspeed race springs (2" drop) for $675 shipped from mjm autohaus....

gl!

when I was looking for suspension on a budget, I definitely contemplated v-maxx, but after reading into them, they are solely for show...and I needed a set-up I could auto-X with....

thanks for the input, but after seeing multiple pictures of race spring setups i have a good feeling they are too low, even when i look at my car 2 inches doesnt seem like much, but from looking at many b5's with those springs and hearing people say they are to low for them, i think they would be to low. I really think the "sport" look fits me more then the "race look". And then i have also heard bilstien shocks dont do well with sport springs and work the best with race springs.

BTW: many people say that the v-maxx are an upgrade from stock sport suspension, i have heard that from multiple people. Less body roll, stiffer and not uncomfortable. Those people owning TT's, a4's avants and s4's...

I really dont see why you dont go with a nice set of bilsteins and lowering springs, they will provide for ALOT less body roll. There was a significant difference after I put my springs on last year. I couldnt imagine having body roll being as low as you may want, which might make the fender rub horribly.
Just my .02

I have read about body roll being the least of problems with the v max coilovers. The biggest issues i have read are them not performing "as well" as other super expensive coilovers.(also no dampening feature making them useless for a person that tracks there car, but honestly dont care much about that)

and that when you lower them to low, more then 2 inches, they get bouncy and do not perform that great. Also being kinda harsh on rough roads but thats what you are expected for upgraded suspension. But reading this review against other coil over sets, leaving them at 40 mm which isnt super low or high, they perform "well"

please read the review and then post back with your opinions.

http://www.stratmosphere.com/Test%20Redline.pdf

[Kronic Budz]

from that review it seems they are comparable to eibach coils. Just not being as well made and not handling "as well" but still good.

quoted.

"very little body roll, the v-maxx did the job at a fantastic price"

[biketsai]

All Im saying is just that IMHO, id buy some quality parts, and ive heard of many reviews of Vmaxx coils going bad or something. Why not just get the "oem sport" springs and shocks?
-Oem Sport Shocks and OEM sport springs


-Oem Sport Shocks and OEM sport springs on 18" wheels


-OEM Sport shocks & H&R Race springs




I think that the images you saw of the HR Race springs were just incorrect stances of the setup (silver a4 on stock 15"s)

[Kronic Budz]

Your cars clean thats what i want mine to look like. Stock sport isnt low enough lol. Aftermarket sports are significantly lower. And i dont want used suspension, i cant think of anywhere that sells oem shit for cheap.

is there anything you dont like about your suspension setup?

stiffness, speedbumps, rough roads, how many finger gap in wheel well, how stiff is it when you push down on the body compared to your old stock sport setup? is there body roll at freeway speeds?

[Chop4Life]

Seriously, i dont know why all the hate on these coils.. if someone doesnt go to the track and occasionaly takes there car around town in the twisties... it will do just fine.
Ohlin coilovers are very expensive, but they are made in japan... click link http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/...PER_SHOCK.html
Now if i wanted, i can buy these in bulk, like Stasis and sell them for twice as much.All Stasis did was change the spring rates.

[djwimbo]

sorry guys i dont give a fuck about teins.

What he said. Not that they don't make decent performing products for other import cars, I just don't like the way they ride.

For the money I'd rather go to a Koni.

As far as Bilstien struts + whatever spring, my experience is that it will ride excessively stiff.
Stock sports + lowering springs isn't a real good combo either. Those struts are designed for a certain ride height, lowering the car will change their damping ability.

[mainer0311]

Compared to stock sport suspension? So when you push down on the body of the car it has the same amount of give.. Same amount of body roll? Same stiffness over bumps?

I had s4 suspension in my a4, so it was a bit stiffer than stock. And Yes I would say that there is the same amount of give to this set up. It rides no more harsh on the bumps. But there is less body roll, much less because the center of gravity has been lowered, not because of stiffer springs.

If I were to do it again I would save the extra cash and buy a better set.

Cooper

[biketsai]

Your cars clean thats what i want mine to look like. Stock sport isnt low enough lol. Aftermarket sports are significantly lower. And i dont want used suspension, i cant think of anywhere that sells oem shit for cheap.

is there anything you dont like about your suspension setup?

stiffness, speedbumps, rough roads, how many finger gap in wheel well, how stiff is it when you push down on the body compared to your old stock sport setup? is there body roll at freeway speeds?

First of all, the handling was by far alot better. It isnt ridiculously stiff like how my coils are right now, but enough for my tire to rub my fender like on a REALLY bad dip. On rough roads it isnt too bad at all, I had about 1.5 finger gap. When I pushed down, it wouldnt really go down, but then again I never pushed it down before I put the springs on. There is minimal body roll at freeway speeds.

[bronz]

just got mine the other day hehe

[Kronic Budz]

just got mine the other day hehe

damn well they look nice. I dont see how they could be soo bad as people make them sound. There is no way they could be worse then stock sport suspension.

[Kronic Budz]

someone please come up with some options for me to choose from because i f not i might end up going with these v maxx because tomorrow is the last day i can get them for $520 shipped before they are back up to like $650 shipped.


-vmaxx coils
-billys/spring combo
-koni/spring combo = im broke as fuck
-and idk any others.

[VTAudiA4]

What about Ksport coilovers. I've heard mixed reviews on the Audi and Dub side but I heard really good things on the import tuner side. Those have 36 ways of adjusting dampening and come with the pillow ball mount.

[djwimbo]

i can get them for $520 shipped before they are back up to like $650 shipped.

-koni/spring combo = im broke as fuck

For you, they might be perfect.

For what they are, it's a relatively inexpensive investment. If you want the look and not really performance, give it a try. Somebody else with a similar mindset will buy them off you down the road if you don't like them.

[oneohone]

Do the VMaxx man, hell I will probably get some from my A4. I have Neuspeed Race on stock non sport shock and the ride sucks. This sounds like a great alternative.

[Kronic Budz]

What about Ksport coilovers. I've heard mixed reviews on the Audi and Dub side but I heard really good things on the import tuner side. Those have 36 ways of adjusting dampening and come with the pillow ball mount.

why would i be trying to decide on either a $500-$700 set of suspension and then a susp setup like the k sport setup which is easily over $1000. Im on a budget homie. That aint gunna work.

Do the VMaxx man, hell I will probably get some from my A4. I have Neuspeed Race on stock non sport shock and the ride sucks. This sounds like a great alternative.

ouch race springs on non sport shocks, how badly does that ride?

[biketsai]

I mean, the vmaxx seem like they provide a lot more options and customizing, but I highly doubt that those struts will be better quality compared to bilsteins

[Kronic Budz]

I mean, the vmaxx seem like they provide a lot more options and customizing, but I highly doubt that those struts will be better quality compared to bilsteins

yea i wouldnt doubt that billys and a lot of others shocks are better then the v maxx.

[MJM Autohaus]

you can pick up bilstein sport shocks and neuspeed race springs (2" drop) for $675 shipped from mjm autohaus....

That combo will have your B5 handling like a slot car!

[Kronic Budz]

That combo will have your B5 handling like a slot car!

i decided to go with the bilstien sports and vogtland sport springs with 1.4 inch drop. Im getting them installed tomorrow morning, not going to sleep to well lol.

[somebody5788]

i decided to go with the bilstien sports and vogtland sport springs with 1.4 inch drop. Im getting them installed tomorrow morning, not going to sleep to well lol.

I just ordered the Vogtland springs and I plan on using Bilstein shocks w/ them eventually (when im not poor). You will have to let us all know how it rides and handles. Also some pix after they have settled in would be sweet too.

[onemoremile]

It does handle better because a lower center of gravity

It just isn't that simple unless you leave it at stock height and fit short tires.

When you lower an audi with the 4 link suspension the roll couple changes which means that even though the car is lower it may roll even more than before. I've tracked at various heights from slammed to stock sport and would not go more than a half inch below stock sport height again. There is no point to it. Camber and toe curves get strange, the tire wear is increased, and there is no improvement in lap times.

Seriously, if you can run the same lap time on H-Sport bars with stock sport suspension as with H-Sport bars and balanced coilovers then why spend the money? The lap times were within a second and I'll be all of that was under braking and corner entry which is where the higher spring rates really matter.

[onemoremile]

i decided to go with the bilstien sports and vogtland sport springs with 1.4 inch drop. Im getting them installed tomorrow morning, not going to sleep to well lol.

Konis will ride 100% better with no compromise in handling.

[Kronic Budz]

Konis will ride 100% better with no compromise in handling.

thanks for the opinion but im getting them installed as we speak. Ill tell you guys how they are and pics for sure. How will the handling be on the car until the springs or is it the shocks that settle..? And how long will it take for the them to get to the right height?

[sikhest]

please do give an update, im thinking about them as well for my b6

[sirmeeps]

thanks for the opinion but im getting them installed as we speak. Ill tell you guys how they are and pics for sure. How will the handling be on the car until the springs or is it the shocks that settle..? And how long will it take for the them to get to the right height?

It will probly take about two weeks maybe longer, thats how long i felt like it toook my VMAXX'S.