big turbo question

[Greek Yayo]

i am looking to go big turbo in a few months. already started saving n stuff. whats the safest and best way to go?

[Papachristou]

OMG, go eat a pistol!


what mods do you have now?

you will need the following before even considering a BT:

FMIC
clutch
exhaust

brakes/suspension are optional but needed with the upgraded power
and all the little shit like TIP, shifter, test pipe/hfc, boost gauge, coilpacks, fresh TB if you are getting up in mileage

[Greek Yayo]

i got stage1+ unitronic, full 2.5 inch turbo back exhaust, intake, forge bov/dv, boost gauge

[Papachristou]

so you need a clutch and FMIC before you even consider a BT then...

[rxrep]

You can wait on the clutch until it goes. Depending on how you drive and if you are original owner, you can get by with stock cltuch for a little bit. I'm at about 10k on stock clutch still. But I'm original owner, always rev match, and rarely balls-to-the-wall launch. That will all change after this winter.

[Papachristou]

You can wait on the clutch until it goes. Depending on how you drive and if you are original owner, you can get by with stock cltuch for a little bit. I'm at about 10k on stock clutch still. But I'm original owner, always rev match, and rarely balls-to-the-wall launch. That will all change after this winter.

you are a serious exception to the rule!

did u decide on a clutch yet?

[A4Dit]

A clutch is not a necessity but you will not be capable of squeezing all the performance out of your setup without one. I am at 3500 miles on my GTRS and still using the stock clutch. I'm only at 65k and I don't launch so I will replace it when it decides to go. To answer your question you should go with an eliminator setup, a lot of bang for your buck and relatively straight forward install should you decide to do it yourself. Check out Eurocodes Ultimate solution and do your research.

[Greek Yayo]

ima wait till mine starts to go. but when it does southbend. um for the 1.8T GTRS Eliminator Hardware Kit... what components should i get with it? injectors and that kind of stuff....

[KPC1.8TQuat]

ima wait till mine starts to go. but when it does southbend. um for the 1.8T GTRS Eliminator Hardware Kit... what components should i get with it? injectors and that kind of stuff....

550cc injectors with harness
ATP manifold
neuspeed tip with GTRS option from eurocode
Forge 007p DV
Evolution Ravewerks Competition FMIC
Coilover suspension with rear sway bar
Upgraded rotors, calipers, pads, and brake lines

...not to mention the software tuning to go with your turbo

All of these upgrades are mandatory to do a properly safe BT upgrade.

[Greek Yayo]

i need 550 for the gtrs elim kit?

[Exanimas]

i need 550 for the gtrs elim kit?

I think a bunch of people use 440s with it and have no trouble, but there's been multiple 550 vs 440 discussions. Pretty much just get the 550s.

[widgget]

get the 550cc's.

[KPC1.8TQuat]

Widgget, whats up with your car? Make any progress?

[Greek Yayo]

ok 550 it is. i been serching aroun and havenbt seen any for my a4. Another thing i have the forge splitter bov/dv is that good or i need the 007?

[Exanimas]

ok 550 it is. i been serching aroun and havenbt seen any for my a4. Another thing i have the forge splitter bov/dv is that good or i need the 007?

Your splitter should be fine. www.eurocodetuning.com for a pretty much complete GTRS setup with injectors included.

[KPC1.8TQuat]

i have the forge splitter bov/dv is that good or i need the 007?

You don't NEED to get a 007p, almost any aftermarket DV will do. I personally would shy away from a BOV. Our cars are meant for DV's so why change it to a BOV?

[A4natomical]

someone seriously needs to make a sticky on what is needed for a bigger turbo, specifically aimed towards the GTRS.

[AudiA4_20T]

someone seriously needs to make a sticky on what is needed for a bigger turbo, specifically aimed towards the GTRS.

I did, some people read it but its old news now

[romell]

cmon. My thread had all this info

[vinny.dtw]

Theres a lot of GTRS build threads. And lots of turbo information available.

[102487thedude]

get the 550 or 640 becuase if you plan on runnning more than 23psi the 550 will be running in the 90% range of there duty cycle which could spell disaster for you and your motor and they are all within 100 dollars of each other so dont be cheap. that is the best advice i can give you.

[A4 Moda]

I've had my BT setup for almost two years now. Got 20K miles on the BT clock. STILL ON the ORIGINAL FACTORY 1st Virgin Hydraulic CLUTCH.

you are a serious exception to the rule!

did u decide on a clutch yet?

[A4 Moda]

FOR THIS VERY REASON, and THIS REASON ALONE!!!!!

You don't NEED to get a 007p, almost any aftermarket DV will do. I personally would shy away from a BOV. Our cars are meant for DV's so why change it to a BOV?

[A4ringedONE8T]

Plenty of BOV and Splitter valves that run perfectly fine on our cars. Its your choice, the car will not run better or worse with either ...

[Greek Yayo]

ok my friend with an srt4 said that i also need an exhaust manifold is this true? if so what do yous recomend?

[Greek Yayo]

wow im retearted never mind lol

[Greek Yayo]

ok the gtrs elim kit. what size turbo is that cause one wenbsite said gt28 and the other said 25...

[A4 Moda]

YOU NEED THIS ONE

[Greek Yayo]

yea but i want to save money and stay with unitronic. the bt unitronic is for the gt28 and 30. is this either of them?

[A4 Moda]

No Clue. Gotta ask your UNI buddies.

yea but i want to save money and stay with unitronic. the bt unitronic is for the gt28 and 30. is this either of them?

[B6Lovin]

the GTRS kit will do you fine - since you've already got unitronic i vote that you go ahead and get 630cc injectors.

get some IE rods if you want to run high boost daily and you're going to beat the shit out of your car.

[Greek Yayo]

im going to beat the shit out of my car?? meaning what? im going to do everything right and not half assed. i wont launch my shit. lol idk i say this now maybe wen it done i see aha

[A4 Moda]

I think it was a compliment.
But yeah, with the proper tuning and hardware, go ahead and drive the hell out of your car (beat the shit out of it)/Have a good time / ride like the wind/ go like stink / hail the harbinger / pedal to the metal / loose cannon / floor that sucker ...

i'm out of synonymous idiomatic phrases...

[B6Lovin]

im going to beat the shit out of my car?? meaning what? im going to do everything right and not half assed. i wont launch my shit. lol idk i say this now maybe wen it done i see aha

meaning drive it hard. (like i do mine) wan't implying anything about the install - just afterwards. if you're going to drive it hard on high boost you might pop a rod... just fair warning. plently of people run that kit and have no issues.

but i was the first person to run it with a unitronic 630 file and i did have issues. so i'm giving you the benefit of my experience NOW when it could save you a few thousand bucks. a set of rods is cheap to buy, cheap to install, and cheap insurance when you think about it... then you're free to crank it past 24psi if you please and beat the piss out of it day in and day out. (mine lasted about 2 weeks under those conditions with the stock rod... search my created threads for pictures of what happened)

[Greek Yayo]

oh lol. and yea im just tryin to research as much as i can before i buy anything, like im clueless to this project i got my boys and you guys givin me advice and im jus going crazy lol. quick question wats the diff between jus the turbo kit and the turbo elim kit?

[audikid66]

listen to B6lovin . . . i also decided i am going with a gt71r in the spring/early summer.. im just working on getting my car cosmeticlly how i want it now and get EVERY supporting mod i want before i upgrade from my k04... so after my front bumper is shaved/carbon fiber boser is painted nd clear bra and then faces on my wheels painted... im doing labonte motorsports water/meth kit and EBC..this way when i get the gt71r all i hafta do is get the turbo,injectors,rods(might do pistons also), and i will be getting dyno tuned... i rather have the peace of mind that i can beat the car and not worry bout throwing rod

[AudiA4_20T]

yea but i want to save money and stay with unitronic. the bt unitronic is for the gt28 and 30. is this either of them?

OMFG.... Get Revo

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96446

/thread...

[B6Lovin]

oh lol. and yea im just tryin to research as much as i can before i buy anything, like im clueless to this project i got my boys and you guys givin me advice and im jus going crazy lol. quick question wats the diff between jus the turbo kit and the turbo elim kit?

the eliminator turbos are designed to bolt up in the stock location, on the stock manifold, and retain as much of the stock setup as possible.... obviously that's not good for making power - but theoretically you could unbolt your ko3 and bolt one of those on and be good to go.

the kits come with a new higher flowing manifold, a new TIP, you can get an inlet adapter to make it 3" instead of the stock size flange that comes on the GTRS, they come with lines and install hardware also.

personally for you i'd recommend the "GTRS hardware kit only". if you want you can then order a velocity adapter and neuspeed TIP - but if you go with unitronic you could just get the velocity adapter and get a MAFless tune - and then you either make an intake like normal, or you just stick a filter on the end of your turbo and call it a day. oh, you'll also need the manifold... look for one used in the classifieds

[B6Lovin]

OMFG.... Get Revo

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96446

/thread...

i cant believe you said that clint

[KPC1.8TQuat]

get some IE rods if you want to run high boost daily and you're going to beat the shit out of your car.

Hypothetically, if I were to run a GT71r elim with Revo tune on my car, at what PSI would I start to think about getting rods?

I'm a TIP so I wasn't planning on pushing past 22 PSI or so.