Best intakes for the B7?

[Dankus]

What up guys! Brand new to the forums and I must say, you guys have some pretty sweet rides! I just purchased my b7 yesterday and am really excited to start my masterpiece. I was going to purchase a K&N Typhoon intake and was wondering if any of you had any experience with it. As well, I'd like to hear what you think of other cold air intakes. Thanks a lot guys!

[viperdsa]

I like my Carbonio. GSG's CAI will own all once it's released, the only thing with it is you have to be using a FMIC.

[SEXICÄN]

If you are looking at getting an intake to make the car "faster" Think again! you might gain like 1/16hp to the crank with any intake!

I would just say Carbonio, but buy used and save money!

[AWDTURBO]

i just got my carbonio today :)

[eskimopunk]

make your own if you can

[Quattro]

best intake is subjective to the user. Any intake setup in the market, will not really give you hp gain, rather a nice whoosh sound making your dv more audible. You will feel more throttle response, but hp gain, I havent seen it.

you can do: evoms, carbonio or custom intake (air filter). GSG offers an intake pipe that replaces the stock line. You can get this or do a DIY on this intake pipe. GSG just had a sale on the pipes, I think it is over though.

As for a true CAI, GSG is also making one, but you need a FMIC because it utilizes the location of your old side mount. Jordan, posted a dyno of the CAI and gains were good.

Overall, the main thing is dont buy new, spend over 300 plus, used for less. Any more questions shoot me over a pm.

[Turn10]

EVOMS, cheaper and sounds better than the carbonio.

[viperdsa]

and carbonio looks better, it's a trade off.

[Dankus]

Thanks for the quick response. I've been reading up, and it looks like everyone pretty much agrees that the Carbonio is the best bang for the buck. I'm going to check the classifieds to see if i can grip up a used one, and no I didn't think the intake was going to boost me up to stage 3 horses Sexican, lol. It's just one of the many things I'm going to do to my new whip, and thought it was a good place to start. I appreciate all of your input. It's really cool that I can write down a question and come back a few hours later with a bunch of honest answers. You guys are steller to say the least!

[eskimopunk]

^^ dude you should put the money towards coilovers or a rear sway bar first... the intake pretty much does nothing. The b7 stock air box is actually really good and its what the b5 s4's used (all this info is in other threads). Im pretty sure its good to about 300hp and you're only getting above that if you go BT... so if you really want that sound then do the Silencer Delete Mod or whatever its called - you take out the cushiony shit inside the box. then just put a drop in K&N. thats what i think anyways lol

[Dankus]

Gonna wait for the spring time to grip up the coils. I'm in Canada remember, in the winter, in the mountains, with maaaaaaaaad snow, you know "Eskimo" status, lol. Want to leave the stance high so I don't get stuck. Definitely gonna chip it up though, and have some fun in the snow.

[Keith@APR]

To all,

I understand that historically intakes have not made power. However, the Carbonio is a little bit different in that it well, it does make power.

Most intake designs you guys have been used to are hot air intakes that get hot engine bay air and typically only provide improved throttle response.

I've also seen people talk about the oem air inlet being a restriction. This is not true. The leading edge of the car where the hood meets the grille is the highest pressure area of airflow across the car and believe it or not, the grille opening is designed by Audi to be a somewhat ideal opening that due to the high pressure zone and opening design pulls the coolest, freshest and most readily available air from anywhere on the vehicle.

The Carbonio CF Airbox makes its gains through increased volume of available air at throttle tip in for better throttle response, additional insulation through the use of CF over the plastic of the oem airbox to keep the air cooler and through the use of a high flow air filter.

This is APR btw, if doesn't provide gains, we don't sell it. If it isn't properly engineered, we don't sell it.



http://www.mjbmotorsport.com/id82.html

Denser air coming in must result in more power being made, no?

[Glassnpowder98]

Finally! Data about increases from intakes has finally arrived... I thought the day would never come and we would just be bickering until the end of time with no data to back up any claims. Thanks Keith! It's nice to know that my $300+ purchase actually makes some power and doesn't just sound awesome.

[06B7audiA4]

Carbonio functions well, looks great, have had no problems since the beg.
My advice is look for a used one, price is a lil much fresh out of a new box :P

[Great White]

Thank you Keith, it's good to see actual data to back up a statement.

What I would like to see is the same date from other vendors as well. I'm personally leaning towards a used carbonio, but I've read different threads, with different opinions for different products and set up's, but this is the first time I actually see data on it.

Honestly I've been thinking about getting a carbonio for the cool factor and sound as well, I didn't really expect power gains from it, but again, it's nice to see data to back up the statement.

Thanks again Keith, you've been providing good information. Can't wait to see more on the APR BT/Stage 3 thread.

[JamezHill]

I read about problems with Carbonio fitment..? Mine arrived last week, can't wait to install.

[Keith@APR]

Finally! Data about increases from intakes has finally arrived... I thought the day would never come and we would just be bickering until the end of time with no data to back up any claims. Thanks Keith! It's nice to know that my $300+ purchase actually makes some power and doesn't just sound awesome.

Thanks for the kind words!

A big misnomer about dyno's and intakes is that its virtually impossible for any aftermarket company to recreate the real world airflow necessary to measure gains from ram-air type intakes.

Yes, the b7 a4 is ram-air by oem design. Audi obviously has access to a wind tunnel and their data proves my claim of the best airflow positioning of the intake scoop. As many of you know, we have a close relationship with VAG through our concept car co-development with VGoA.

The Motronic ems is a load based system that applies fuel, boost and timing through mass air calculations to arrive at a desired load. Adaptation channels allow for some upscaling by the ecu when it recognizes available air coming in. The best way to measure intake gains is by looking for the mass air increase over the oem box. Understanding the Motronic ems and how it works allows one to be confident in the results of intake design. Mass air calculations account for air density (the colder the denser), ease of availability (free of restrictions and available volume at tip in) and can even be used to measure ram-air effect when compared to other ecu parameters through specific calculations.

[Keith@APR]

Carbonio functions well, looks great, have had no problems since the beg.
My advice is look for a used one, price is a lil much fresh out of a new box :P

and they are currently on sale for those who wish to purchase a new one.

http://www.goapr.com/Audi/index.html

[Keith@APR]

Thank you Keith, it's good to see actual data to back up a statement.

What I would like to see is the same date from other vendors as well. I'm personally leaning towards a used carbonio, but I've read different threads, with different opinions for different products and set up's, but this is the first time I actually see data on it.

Honestly I've been thinking about getting a carbonio for the cool factor and sound as well, I didn't really expect power gains from it, but again, it's nice to see data to back up the statement.

Thanks again Keith, you've been providing good information. Can't wait to see more on the APR BT/Stage 3 thread.

Thank you! Looks like you guys can benefit from data driven sales information and I am happy to oblige!

[Keith@APR]

I read about problems with Carbonio fitment..? Mine arrived last week, can't wait to install.

I know this is a sensitive subject for many diy'ers and even our techs and distribution network but I guarantee if the installation instructions are followed to the letter, it will fit perfectly.

I have feilded complaints about alignment issues with the CF lid to the sealing edge of the firewall but true to form, if you simply keep the attachment points loose and position the intake in the correct spot before tightening all of the hardware the fitment issues can be resolved. I have seen it too many times with my own eyes when the gentlemen from Carbonio are on site. I even complained about the fitment on my car and Rob@Carbonio resolved them in less than 5 minutes by simply following the proper installation procedures.

[eskimopunk]

and they are currently on sale for those who wish to purchase a new one.

http://www.goapr.com/Audi/index.html

i can't find anything on it being on sale??

[eskimopunk]

^^ my bad, for some reason the holiday image thing didn't show up when i clicked the link the first time lol

[eskimopunk]

Gonna wait for the spring time to grip up the coils. I'm in Canada remember, in the winter, in the mountains, with maaaaaaaaad snow, you know "Eskimo" status, lol. Want to leave the stance high so I don't get stuck. Definitely gonna chip it up though, and have some fun in the snow.

haha yeh i see what you're saying... you could upgrade your sway bar(s) though, and you could still do coilovers - just don't put em all the way down lol.

[apatchin]

and carbonio looks better, it's a trade off.

x2

[JamezHill]

I know this is a sensitive subject for many diy'ers and even our techs and distribution network but I guarantee if the installation instructions are followed to the letter, it will fit perfectly.

I have feilded complaints about alignment issues with the CF lid to the sealing edge of the firewall but true to form, if you simply keep the attachment points loose and position the intake in the correct spot before tightening all of the hardware the fitment issues can be resolved. I have seen it too many times with my own eyes when the gentlemen from Carbonio are on site. I even complained about the fitment on my car and Rob@Carbonio resolved them in less than 5 minutes by simply following the proper installation procedures.

Great, thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully if it doesn't rain this weekend, I'll get to it.

Thanks again

[TrboPowr]

had the carbonio...kinda not worth the money, had the EVO MS and it was better....now im waiting on the GSG unit and that will own all...

[coolguy32]

i have the evoms unit as well.....good intake overall

[amracer]

I have a 06 A4 Quatro I just purchased and I just installed a home made intake I went to Auto Zone and bought a cone filter for $25 ripped out the factory airbox put it in and then tied the factory heat shield with a zip tie (barely noticeable) and its working fine

[Keith@APR]

You guy should do a maf log with vag-com to compare.

[Types Cnversion]

lol K&N drop in filter n call it a day.

[eskimopunk]

lol K&N drop in filter n call it a day.

x2

$50 and then $15 for the recharge kit and used it as long as you need.

[audidrver]

calling it a day is no fun at all and therefore not worth it imo.

[eskimopunk]

calling it a day is no fun at all and therefore not worth it imo.

lmao