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    Anything else i should upgrade?

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    Well im going APR Stage 3 in 2 weeks, sending out my transmission to IPT Tuning to be built to 500+HP, i have Stainless Steal brake lines, Red Stuff pads etc so my brakes are good, i upgraded my suspension and have all performance upgrades. Should i do axels or control arms? How about a cam? Would water meth blow up my stock block with APR Stage 3? TIA.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    I thought you were trying to get rid of it and find a 6mt?

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by dubfreak75 View Post
    I thought you were trying to get rid of it and find a 6mt?
    changed my mind. Im just going to keep it and upgrade it some more. I figured that in 5 years when im done with college i'll buy a new S4, RS4 or something like that.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Damn bro, I'm happy with my stock a4 with oem sport suspension and s4 sway bar.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Check your cam lobe and follower, plus try to get an upgraded the low pressure fuel pump as well, since fuel starvation to the high pressure pump might occur.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    keep it TIP fo life

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    how bout save your money for a faster car.....you realize if you total -- meaning f-ing up engine parts -- your car, your losing all the money you're putting into it, no questions asked...

    But you're car will be one off. Hope it turns out well for ya!! Good luck.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    how bout save your money for a faster car.....you realize if you total -- meaning f-ing up engine parts -- your car, your losing all the money you're putting into it, no questions asked...

    But you're car will be one off. Hope it turns out well for ya!! Good luck.
    The fact of the matter is that with the APR Stage 3 Turbo Kit, and a couple of other little things, my car will be faster than new M3, RS4, etc...

    Here is a vid of the stage 3 turbo kit on a A3 without FMIC, CAI, DV, only has the kit and exhaust.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ciFyfBaxs

    Factor in a A3 2.0T FWD DSG is 300lbs lighter than A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic and has less of a drivetrain loss.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Sounds good. But you can insure those cars for their value. Once you do this, it (BT-KIT and accessories) can't be insured. So if you're car gets into an accident, stolen, or what not. You're out the 10 g's or so you put into the car to make it faster. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it. What I'm saying is there is a ton of risk and very little reward.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Vreeeee MIN tous akous! Kane oti thelis! Pote boro na se gnoriso,eimai 30 xronon kai akoma thelo na pigeno pio grigora, thelo na sou thixo kati aftokinita pou ehoumai ftiaxi etho stin astoria!!!! Anyway nice to hear your upgrading your tranny that shit is gonna be no joke once its done!!! Why dont you try a lil shot of nitrous to give it that lil extra push when you go down the track??

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    Active Member Four Rings Auditude2.0T's Avatar
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by grmntoy View Post
    Vreeeee MIN tous akous! Kane oti thelis! Pote boro na se gnoriso,eimai 30 xronon kai akoma thelo na pigeno pio grigora, thelo na sou thixo kati aftokinita pou ehoumai ftiaxi etho stin astoria!!!! Anyway nice to hear your upgrading your tranny that shit is gonna be no joke once its done!!! Why dont you try a lil shot of nitrous to give it that lil extra push when you go down the track??
    oli malakes, pan na mou poune mi to kano, gufti:) You said you have a friend mechanic in Astoria. Would he be interested in swapping out my torque converter? first im going to ask my friend who is a Master Mechanic for Mercedes if he wants to do it but if no then im a little stuck.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    I was going to say the Stasis Torsen diff, but 6MT only
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    vre paremai tilefono....or im me at [email protected] 3476240095 ..... oti kai na kanis einai efkolo....o xatherfosmou kai o pio kaliteros filos tou ehounai to record for the fastest fwd vw jetta...heres the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWumszrL0SE&NR=1

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    As for the torque converter yeah he'll give you a good price too...the shop is right by central(the club in astoria). I also wanna do some of the mods you did in a matter of time cuz i just baught my car just recently, but i wanna see how you car feels or to just go stage 3 also.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    Sounds good. But you can insure those cars for their value. Once you do this, it (BT-KIT and accessories) can't be insured. So if you're car gets into an accident, stolen, or what not. You're out the 10 g's or so you put into the car to make it faster. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it. What I'm saying is there is a ton of risk and very little reward.
    That's not what modifying cars is about, if thats your only worry you should just leave this forum. Even if he bought a m3 or rs4 he would probably modify that too, as most serious cars are always looking to improve on their cars abilities. As for reward there is a lot to gain when it comes to enjoying the car. Have you ever driven an apr stage 3 car?

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by craymond5 View Post
    That's not what modifying cars is about, if thats your only worry you should just leave this forum. Even if he bought a m3 or rs4 he would probably modify that too, as most serious cars are always looking to improve on their cars abilities. As for reward there is a lot to gain when it comes to enjoying the car. Have you ever driven an apr stage 3 car?
    IMO you are right about modifying but that is certainly not the only reson to be on this forum.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by craymond5 View Post
    That's not what modifying cars is about, if thats your only worry you should just leave this forum. Even if he bought a m3 or rs4 he would probably modify that too, as most serious cars are always looking to improve on their cars abilities. As for reward there is a lot to gain when it comes to enjoying the car. Have you ever driven an apr stage 3 car?

    It's not a worry...It's more of a concern. I am all for modding. But I have a limit when I don't have the money to lose. If I put 10k into my car for a BT, I better be able to spend it and forget it. I can't. Many people can't. Autitude can b/c of he works very very hard. I just wanted to give him a different perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by craymond5 View Post
    That's not what modifying cars is about, if thats your only worry you should just leave this forum.
    That's some tough talk coming from a guy with one ring. Maybe you should be the one that leaves if you can't value someone else's opinions.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Heyyy I got one ring and I've been in the scene for 12 years!!!!!! Just do what makes you happy!!!! Just don't blow the motor!

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    It's not a worry...It's more of a concern. I am all for modding. But I have a limit when I don't have the money to lose. If I put 10k into my car for a BT, I better be able to spend it and forget it. I can't. Many people can't. Autitude can b/c of he works very very hard. I just wanted to give him a different perspective.

    its not even close to 10k thats a little exageratted x2.5

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Engine mounts?
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Auditude2.0T View Post
    its not even close to 10k thats a little exageratted x2.5

    4k for the turbo, plus installation. About 10-12 hours at 50-60 hour = ~4600.
    I've gotta figure another 2-3 for your tranny work. Aight, so maybe not 10...but 6 or 7 or 8 total. I highly doubt your getting this down for less than 5k....

    Anywho...I've said my peace. Have a nice night.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    get cams!

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    build that motor..your block wont handle that much power all day..
    injectors and cams..top priority..

    sounds great though..cant wait to see some numbers and clips..
    good luck..
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tru NY Player View Post
    build that motor..your block wont handle that much power all day..
    injectors and cams..top priority..

    sounds great though..cant wait to see some numbers and clips..
    good luck..
    Here are my plans as of now:

    By the end of December my car will have:
    Full APR Stage 3 GT2871R Turbo
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    By the end of next December:
    AEB Heads
    Forged Rods and Pistons
    Raise the boost to 28psi
    Water/Meth Injection
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    My final goal by hopefully January 2010 is 500AWHP.

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    500 will never happen on apr with gt28, ever.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Considering alot of our bottom end components are forged already besides the rods do the IE drop in rods and you should be able to sleep much better running higher boost. Is the APR kit coming with injectors?
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    Sounds good. But you can insure those cars for their value. Once you do this, it (BT-KIT and accessories) can't be insured. So if you're car gets into an accident, stolen, or what not. You're out the 10 g's or so you put into the car to make it faster. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it. What I'm saying is there is a ton of risk and very little reward.
    Geico covers all my mods for $23 extra a month.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by IceMole View Post
    500 will never happen on apr with gt28, ever.
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    2871 ~ 450hp

    I didn`t saw anywere how much power will you run within this December? Maybe you should upgrade it first with forged pistons?

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    X3 on the turbo output. APR is advertising ~375 chp with the Stage 3, so you're going to need a significantly larger turbo to achieve 500WHP. A guy local to me has a built B5 A4 with power around that range, and his turbo is the size of a pumpkin. Not to mention that APR most likely doesn't have a tune to support that power. You'd also be better off going with a 2.2L block and building that up. I'm thinking the stock 2.0L block would need a lot of manipulation....

    Axles and control arms don't need to be upgraded (CA's have more to do with suspension then performance). I would suggest upgrading your motor and transmission mounts (if they make trans mounts for a Tip), plus an upgraded snub mount. That should help cut down on some drivetrain slop. In addition, add the SS lines, but you should also consider upgrading to a Stoptech, Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing BBK, or even some sort of Porsche setup. At the very least, think about upgrading to S4 size rotors and a more aggressive pad. A BT is great and all, but you need to stop somehow, and the stock brakes/pads/rotors won't cut it.

    You're coming to the ASP Dyno Day on December 20th, right?
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Get wings imo...pass all that traffic

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Dear members, please help me with few advices.
    I see that this is only thread with someone who did tuned B7 TFSI

    I have bought next parts:

    a) Garrett 3071
    b) External wastegate
    c) Custom 3" downpipe with 3" exaust and screamer pipe
    d) High flow FSI fuel pump
    e) Large front mount intercooler with all pipes
    f) Custom tuning will be done on dyno

    Questions are:
    1. Is Forge DV best solution for BOV?
    2. Where can I buy larger injectors?
    3. Should I buy Walbro 255 and change rear fuel pump too?
    4. Where can I buy longitudinal exhaust mainfold with T3 housing?
    5. Will my pistons melt down - where to buy forged ones?

    Thank you all!

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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Auditude2.0T View Post
    Well im going APR Stage 3 in 2 weeks, sending out my transmission to IPT Tuning to be built to 500+HP, i have Stainless Steal brake lines, Red Stuff pads etc so my brakes are good, i upgraded my suspension and have all performance upgrades. Should i do axels or control arms? How about a cam? Would water meth blow up my stock block with APR Stage 3? TIA.
    welcome to the big boys HP baby congrats bro let me know when you hit the whp
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    Re: Anything else i should upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by QTC View Post
    X3 on the turbo output. APR is advertising ~375 chp with the Stage 3, so you're going to need a significantly larger turbo to achieve 500WHP. A guy local to me has a built B5 A4 with power around that range, and his turbo is the size of a pumpkin. Not to mention that APR most likely doesn't have a tune to support that power. You'd also be better off going with a 2.2L block and building that up. I'm thinking the stock 2.0L block would need a lot of manipulation....

    Axles and control arms don't need to be upgraded (CA's have more to do with suspension then performance). I would suggest upgrading your motor and transmission mounts (if they make trans mounts for a Tip), plus an upgraded snub mount. That should help cut down on some drivetrain slop. In addition, add the SS lines, but you should also consider upgrading to a Stoptech, Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing BBK, or even some sort of Porsche setup. At the very least, think about upgrading to S4 size rotors and a more aggressive pad. A BT is great and all, but you need to stop somehow, and the stock brakes/pads/rotors won't cut it.

    You're coming to the ASP Dyno Day on December 20th, right?
    ill be on the dyno that day...lol
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    376/(.72)=516.xx Crank on stock block, FMIC and turbo back straight pipe. Great job ASP!!!
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