How's this for a BAT?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GARRE...2em118Q2el1247

[A4natomical]

add another grand to get a decent mani, not that shiz

[317ssayzarc]

I can do it for cheaper and better...

[motox2121]

lol title says gt3071r all the pics/stats say gt28rs lol

[A4 Moda]

That's what I was thinking. Which is it?

Big difference


Lol

lol title says gt3071r all the pics/stats say gt28rs lol

[sean1.8t]

wrong setup man.

bad manifold. the T3 ATP mani isn't horrible. but the T25 sucks.

bad turbo. again. T3 vs T25.

and there are so many other places/people to go through that will get you a cheaper price

[A4ringedONE8T]

A GT28RS, GT2871R, GT3071-WG are all interchangable turbo's, same inlet, same outlet, T25, and internally gated. From a 28RS setup, the 3071-WG is about a $200 upgrade from ATP directly

[A4ringedONE8T]

add another grand to get a decent mani, not that shiz

Have you used an ATP mani to know its "shiz" or are you just going by "thats what he told me" or was it "thats what the forum said?" The ATP T3 manifold is by no means "shit." Are there other more efficient alternatives, absolutely but that by no means labels the ATP manifold as shit. That manifold was the one and only for many many years on the 1.8T and designed nearly 10 years ago (and has also made ATP a boatload of $$$). I would hope the new manifolds released within the last couple years would be better, ever heard of evolution?

[AudiA4_20T]

Have you used an ATP mani to know its "shiz" or are you just going by "thats what he told me" or was it "thats what the forum said?" The ATP T3 manifold is by no means "shit." Are there other more efficient alternatives, absolutely but that by no means labels the ATP manifold as shit. That manifold was the one and only for many many years on the 1.8T and designed nearly 10 years ago (and has also made ATP a boatload of $$$). I would hope the new manifolds released within the last couple years would be better, ever heard of evolution?

lol Shawn the design of the thing isn't good at all... they just made a manifold that had a 20v flange and could work with t3 turbos

[A4ringedONE8T]

lol Shawn the design of the thing isn't good at all... they just made a manifold that had a 20v flange and could work with t3 turbos

Way to read anything that I stated in my response. And in that case, the ATP manifold would be perfect in your car as it doesnt even run

[mike-2ptzero]

The manifold was actual designed for a Transverse not the Longitude and in all these years they never once thought of making a new one that is actual designed for the A4 1.8t. If you like dealing with bolts that come off, hell of a time getting it bolted to the head, crappy flow from #3 runner and dont really mind your turbo inlet right up against the radiator then its the manifold to go with.

[Don Supreme]

Don't do it.

[A4ringedONE8T]

The manifold was actual designed for a Transverse not the Longitude and in all these years they never once thought of making a new one that is actual designed for the A4 1.8t. If you like dealing with bolts that come off, hell of a time getting it bolted to the head, crappy flow from #3 runner and dont really mind your turbo inlet right up against the radiator then its the manifold to go with.

Thank you for a VALID arguement! And I agree 100%, you get what you get with the cheapest and oldest manifold available for the 1.8T

[AudiA4Turbo22]

i wasn't buying it it's just i thought it was a good deal for $2300 less than the price of an eliminator kit. I was just posting as i thought it was kool that for the first time someone has made a BAT kit that's all.

[sean1.8t]

^but it isn't a BAT. due to the inlet on the compressor(not 4"), and the turbine flange(not T3) it is still just a wittle ol BT

Way to read anything that I stated in my response. And in that case, the ATP manifold would be perfect in your car as it doesnt even run

HAHAHAHA!!!

[A4ringedONE8T]

^but it isn't a BAT. due to the inlet on the compressor(not 4"), and the turbine flange(not T3) it is still just a wittle ol BT

HAHAHAHA!!!

A T25 3071-WG is more efficient and can make more power than a T3 GT3071R FYI. It has already been done with a modified APR 3+ setup by Ecode, the car made 400whp on pump gas. A T3 3071R isnt going to do that ...

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^so is it a BAT or BT?

[actlsub9]

^^so is it a BAT or BT?

Who cares, they are made up terms.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Who cares, they are made up terms.

haha They are all just turbos to me! One just happens to be bigger than the next. None of the BT, BAT, BAMFT nonsense.

[B6Lovin]

A T25 3071-WG is more efficient and can make more power than a T3 GT3071R FYI. It has already been done with a modified APR 3+ setup by Ecode, the car made 400whp on pump gas. A T3 3071R isnt going to do that ...

there might be a 3071R-WG car out there making more power than a T3 3071R right now... but what makes you say the T3 couldn't pass it up? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around a smaller housing with a smaller inlet being more efficient... maybe for spool time - but for creating top end power, that just doesn't make sense to me.

i mean, assuming you had infinite revs on an engine and the turbo was your ONLY restriction (aka - a perfect system) a bigger turbo will always give bigger power #'s. not saying that area under the curve doesn't matter, and not saying its a practical way to look at our motors when chosing a turbo - I'm just saying that in general, a larger turbo will always have the capability of making more power in the end.

[mike-2ptzero]

A T25 3071-WG is more efficient and can make more power than a T3 GT3071R FYI. It has already been done with a modified APR 3+ setup by Ecode, the car made 400whp on pump gas. A T3 3071R isnt going to do that ...

I always love how stories seem to change and grow bigger as they go along.

First off NO ONE has ever seen a dyno of that car making 400whp and no one has ever said it made 400whp on pump gas seeing that 400whp on a GT3071 on 91 is NEVER going to happen.

[A4ringedONE8T]

I always love how stories seem to change and grow bigger as they go along.

First off NO ONE has ever seen a dyno of that car making 400whp and no one has ever said it made 400whp on pump gas seeing that 400whp on a GT3071 on 91 is NEVER going to happen.

The lovely grapevine ...

[F16HTON]

The 30-71WG wil make 400AWHP on race gas...

[mike-2ptzero]

Looks like it only hits 400whp because of a boost spike and then from there the boost tapers off causing the power to keep decreasing as the rpms increase. Peak hp is really early.

[F16HTON]

Still made 400AWHP

[mike-2ptzero]

Still made 400AWHP

Yeah, I just wouldn't want that power band seeing that it's only really good from 4500 to 6k.

[sean1.8t]

Yeah, I just wouldn't want that power band seeing that it's only really good from 4500 to 6k.

how can you speak of this turbo and it's "powerband" by just simply looking at 1 dyno run of it?

do you know the supporting mods to the car? such as cams, exhaust manifold(ok, this is probably ATP log. but still), what head it's got on, etc...

btw, what year car was that?

[B6Lovin]

btw, what year car was that?

screw the year, what car is it?

[F16HTON]

ATP shop car...stock block motor...

B6 chassis car, an AZ member remebertofocus (also known as Adam@SPP) bought it after it was demodded.

Mika Tuning, 750cc injectors, Eurocode FMIC, pretty archaic setup

[sean1.8t]

so that thing had "ATP shop car", "400Awhp" and "mika tuning" all over it and it didn't blow up?


fuck, that thing must be blessed by the gods

[mike-2ptzero]

so that thing had "ATP shop car", "400Awhp" and "mika tuning" all over it and it didn't blow up?


fuck, that thing must be blessed by the gods

Well that should tell you how much boost they threw at it and why it peaks so early, plus just about everyone knows the ATP dyno read really high for pushing sales.

[F16HTON]

The car did not actually belong to ATP but rather an AZ member named Jgoot. When I dyno'd my car at ATP, they saw how well the REVO tuning was performing and sent Jgoot down to Eurocode to get the REVO flash.

Low and behold about 2 weeks later, Mika had a breakthrough in tuning and was able to start writing files for the B6.

This was not the actual car they used to develop the Eliminators on, but rather a customer car that was used to do the "full" GT28RS and up kits...

Most likely the pulls were done with F&L 118 octane (red) leaded fuel.