Pulled The trans... clutch is out.. pictures

[martini]

so if you weren't already following, I was having issues with my clutch dragging. Here are some pics of what the parts look like out. the throwout bearing looks like i needs to be replaced, everything else looks ok. I'm going to send it to southbend for them to inspect

this is really such a huge pain in the ass... nothing like having to pull the trans and clutch after only 10k....

this time around it was a huge pain... 4 bolts got stripped and one snapped in half.... it was a very frustrating day.

throwout bearing


throwout bearing separated into 3 pieces


pressure plate fingers look fine:




clutch sides:






clutch wear so far:




flywheel

[Arclight]

Very nice...

Are you making a DIY for this surgical procedure?

[7speed]

damn, I will be paying to have my clutch installed. I dont want to be bothered with all the hassle

[Redgoat]

Did you replace the throwout bearing when you put the clutch in 10k miles ago?

[absolutegtr]

seeing as though he bought a southbend clutch....a new bearing comes with it

[martini]

yes, this is the bearing that came with the southbend which was installed about 10k ago

[martini]

Very nice...

Are you making a DIY for this surgical procedure?

its just another clutch install... i wrote that up a while ago:

http://www.a4mods.com/index.php?page...es/clutch.html

[martini]

mailed that shit to andy at southbend... theyll get it tomorrow... we'll see what they say

[dougyfresh]

Damn!

That throwout bearing died waay too early. I'm sorry to hear about this.

So, everything got sent to SB for review? What are your plans? Keep the same clutch?

[martini]

Damn!

That throwout bearing died waay too early. I'm sorry to hear about this.

So, everything got sent to SB for review? What are your plans? Keep the same clutch?

my plan is to wait on southbend's feedback.... i will flip the fuck out if i put another southbend part in and it breaks again... its not like pulling a trans is easy


we'll see what they say

the fact of the matter is that there aren't any other clutches that a lot of people have had success with. Putting any other (unproven in durability) part in there wouldn't be any better than sticking another southbend in

[nimski62]

my plan is to wait on southbend's feedback.... i will flip the fuck out if i put another southbend part in and it breaks again... its not like pulling a trans is easy


we'll see what they say

the fact of the matter is that there aren't any other clutches that a lot of people have had success with. Putting any other (unproven in durability) part in there wouldn't be any better than sticking another southbend in

I rem them saying their warranty covered 85% of a mechanics per-hour rate for failures.

[dougyfresh]

my plan is to wait on southbend's feedback.... i will flip the fuck out if i put another southbend part in and it breaks again... its not like pulling a trans is easy


we'll see what they say

the fact of the matter is that there aren't any other clutches that a lot of people have had success with. Putting any other (unproven in durability) part in there wouldn't be any better than sticking another southbend in

Yes, wait and see what SB says and make a decision from there.

I understand your stance. Its a tough position to be in but lets see what SB says first before we speculate and/or make quick knee-jerk decisions.

[Papachristou]

is that a OFE?

[martini]

is that a OFE?

OFE SS

[Don Supreme]

This is the first throw out bearing failure I have seen with these clutches.

[mike-2ptzero]

my plan is to wait on southbend's feedback.... i will flip the fuck out if i put another southbend part in and it breaks again... its not like pulling a trans is easy


we'll see what they say

the fact of the matter is that there aren't any other clutches that a lot of people have had success with. Putting any other (unproven in durability) part in there wouldn't be any better than sticking another southbend in

Well a SB part didn't break since the the TO bearing is most likely OEM.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

very true

[MikTip]

I just removed my SB OFE HD, last weekend...it had been in for exactly 1 year, but began to slip rather easily...

My clutch disk looked simular to yours, but not as bad on the flywheel side...

On now on my 3rd clutch....

[dougyfresh]

What size pilot bearing puller do you need for our cars? 12mm? Anyone know what the Audi/VW p/n is? Its a 4digit number

[AudiA4_20T]

that happened to a guy here, I did his clutch and the thing like disintegrated in my hand

[vdubstreets]

I rem them saying their warranty covered 85% of a mechanics per-hour rate for failures.

why do i doubt that somehow.

[absolutegtr]

I would take this oppurtunity to upgrade to a FE clutch...

If my OFE fails.....thats what I plan to do

[A4natomical]

this is why im not going southbend. im pretty set on a FX300.

[102487thedude]

why do i doubt that somehow.

it is most likely true but it can only happen on the 9th of december and between 4 and 5 pm and the clutchmust been installed by a certified audi tech.

[dirtybrd]

Looks like you slip the shit out of your clutch.

[A4 TSCHUSS]

was thinking the same thing

[dirtybrd]

Maybe it was from the bad TO bearing.

[Papachristou]

What size pilot bearing puller do you need for our cars? 12mm? Anyone know what the Audi/VW p/n is? Its a 4digit number

smallest one autozone carries + a grinding wheel

and a little flat black paint before you return it

[mike-2ptzero]

Maybe it was from the bad TO bearing.

Well he has taken his car to the track a few times and does use the WOT shift box for flat shifting.

[20vturbo]

there is another bearing you can get from southbent that is all metal it doesn't have the plastic they call it a heavy duty t/o bearing..I had a high pitch whinning noise when i shifted and when I removed mine looked the same as yours, so i figured the noise was the plastic grinding on the bearing..So ask them to give that bearing instead of the oem one

[dougyfresh]

smallest one autozone carries + a grinding wheel

and a little flat black paint before you return it

yeah. I want to know the size so I can buy one.

[Spinnetti]

that's 10k miles? Yikes.. I'd upgrade your clutch. The disc and flywheel look pretty darn rough to me (much worse than my stock one after 70k miles and running BT for 5k of that).

[martini]

Looks like you slip the shit out of your clutch.

the clutch has been dragging for XX miles though. I'm sure that doesnt help. a clutch that never disengages all the way will certainly wear faster

[dougyfresh]

What size pilot bearing puller do you need for our cars? 12mm? Anyone know what the Audi/VW p/n is? Its a 4digit number

Found it. Had to go digging through my old emails.
Kukko 12-14.5mm puller

[absolutegtr]

The pilot bearing puller I rented was the standard sized one that did not fit. But if you completely remove it (from the shaft thing) and insert one 'leg' at a time and at angle it goes in no problem

[sean1.8t]

the clutch has been dragging for XX miles though. I'm sure that doesnt help. a clutch that never disengages all the way will certainly wear faster

didn't you lengthen the slave rod?

and still it dragged?

[dougyfresh]

didn't you lengthen the slave rod?

and still it dragged?

I don't think he did that 'mod'

[martini]

didn't you lengthen the slave rod?

and still it dragged?

yes i tried this..didn't lengthen it by much, but I didnt see any difference at all

http://www.a4mods.com/index.php?page...djustment.html

[passatkid]

Curious to what bolts you broke off. Did you possibly over tighten them several times, I have done like 5 audi/vw clutches and never had an issue with any of them. Also its not its only like a 4 hour job, not sure why you though it was such a hassle.

[martini]

Curious to what bolts you broke off. Did you possibly over tighten them several times, I have done like 5 audi/vw clutches and never had an issue with any of them. Also its not its only like a 4 hour job, not sure why you though it was such a hassle.

one hex bolt for the CV boot shield on the driver's side stripped, the bolt for the "lollipop" connector that bolts the exhaust to the trans sheared in half and 3 of the 6 pressure plate hex bolts stripped (the pressure plate bolts were loc-tited in place though on the previous install)


and I'd love to see anyone pull this trans in 4 hours. Sure, if everything went perfect and you had a second pair of hands to help here an there, it COULD come out in 4... but drive a car in michigan for a few years and do the install yourself and see how quick it goes... and how easily the bolts come out

every shop out there will quote you 6+ hours on this job