D1S to D2S

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I have spent te last 2 months trying to get a D1S kit but there is no way i'm forking over $350 for a kit that's 1.5x what i payed for my housings, and well i've looked everywhere, i can get a D2S kit for cheap and i remember someone said i can run it, but i want to be sure on just how to do it thanx

or can i have D1S bulbs work with D2S ballasts?

[EBG 18T]

e-mail todd at retrosolutions. he got me D1S bulbs (integrated ignigtor, not ballast) for less than anyone else i have seen.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

the bulbs are dirt cheap OEM bulbs for $30 it's the ballasts they are not integrated, those box's around the bulbs are ignitors

[absolutegtr]

Contact memeber akinaboy

OEM ballast and ignitors with D2S bulbs

I got it for like 250 i think (like 1.5 years ago)

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^yup he wants $360 for used D1S

[jessefrank]

Judging by your post you don't have HID's OEM in your car now..but purchased OEM HID housings and you are now looking for a HID kit???????

If this is the case then you may be in luck with a D2S hid kit. D1S and D2S have identical mounting bases as the D1S is an updated version of the D2S bulb design (moving the igniter as close to the bulb as possible to eliminate interference and the need to trasnfer more power through cable from ballast-bulb). The difference is that the securing tabs on your housings will need to be modified. This is due to the fact that the D1S has the huge square igniter box as part fo the bulb and as such has different tabs to secure the bulb in the housing vs the D2S housings.
I've never messed with a D1S, but I'll venture to say that some sort of Metal spring clip/band is what is used to secure both types of bulbs and therefore you can manipulate the D1S tab to secure the D2S bulb.

If not you can't just plug a D2S bulb into your wiring if you origionally have D1S's and expect them to work.



If you still need D1S's here's another source for you to try:
http://www.sharphid.com/

They don't list any D1S kits on their site, but do carry replacment D1S bulbs so they may be able to get you a kit or piece one together if you contact them. I bought replacemnt D2S's from them for $50 shipped. They list the D1S's at $135/pair so a kit should be at or less than $250 if they can get it (35w D2S kits at $100). I had to contact them due to an ordering error and although they seem to be a small business they quickly resolved my issue.

You could contact this place about D1-D2 bulb converter as the prices aren't listed and I've never heard of anyone doing this conversion before (or using this company) but they may be of some assistance:
http://www.xevision.com/hid_xesparq.html


Hope that helps a little and good luck!
-Jesse

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^thank you very much sir.

[Trev]

I just installed a D2S 55watt kit in my car.

Nobody sells a 55watt D1S kit so i had to make the D2S work. Its easy.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...&highlight=55w

[AudiA4Turbo22]

thanx trev

[absolutegtr]

^^yup he wants $360 for used D1S

Wow i think i payed like $280 (sinced i got 6000k bulbs)

either way.....OEM everything...so glad i didnt buy anything else

[Trev]

No worries.

Just remember we want to see them pics of the hid's and led fogs together when its all finished

[AudiA4Turbo22]

im buying $150 D2S kit from near to home today so we'll see.

[jessefrank]

Here's some crappy pics fo my D2S housings.

After looking at pics of them both...
Do the screw!!!

[mxrz]

Nobody sells a 55watt D1S kit

XEVision.com sell everything you need for 50~75watt D1S applications. The XeSparQ D2 to D1 igniter adapter can be used with any wattage bulb. It costs 75$ each, or 140$ for a pair.

[BNZ TOY]

Wow i think i payed like $280 (sinced i got 6000k bulbs)

either way.....OEM everything...so glad i didnt buy anything else

Akin sold me my housings (cleared), DS1 kit installed for like 420 (about 1.5 years ago too).

Haven't seen Akin on for a while

[AudiA4Turbo22]

alright i clear cornered them and bought the D2S kit but i can't get the bulb to stay in place, i added 2 screws 1 nothing it just pushes the bulb down until it unlatches. i tried making a custom metal tie down thing that comes with the OE one, nothing i gave up for the night, and well what can i do?

any ideas of what to use for the dust covers?

[diagnosticator]

alright i clear cornered them and bought the D2S kit but i can't get the bulb to stay in place, i added 2 screws 1 nothing it just pushes the bulb down until it unlatches. i tried making a custom metal tie down thing that comes with the OE one, nothing i gave up for the night, and well what can i do?

any ideas of what to use for the dust covers?

The problems above are why I swapped the D1S projectors with D2S projectors from B5 Valeo OEM housings. I'm using the Valeo igniters that use the same ballast cables as the D1S lamps, and the igniters twist lock directly on the D2S burner bases. For less money than buying D2S projectors, as well as a lot easier to install, the adapter igniters that are exactly like regular D1 lamps, but fit on D2 burners to fit perfectly in D1 type projectors are the alternative solution. This is the setup that "mxrz" posted about, using the XeSparQ D2 to D1 adapter igniters.

How many rear housing covers do you need, 2 for each housing?

[diagnosticator]

I have spent te last 2 months trying to get a D1S kit but there is no way i'm forking over $350 for a kit that's 1.5x what i payed for my housings, and well i've looked everywhere, i can get a D2S kit for cheap and i remember someone said i can run it, but i want to be sure on just how to do it thanx

or can i have D1S bulbs work with D2S ballasts?

OEM Valeo ballasts work with both D2 and D1 lamps. The Valeo D2 igniters use the same ballast cables as D1 burners.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

thanx John mine have an opening in the back where it appears to be a slot to put the OEM ballasts as dust covers. i guess i' goint to use plexi glass

[diagnosticator]

You have the bixenon S4 headlights then, You don't have the OEM valeo ballasts?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^no not OEM ballasts, i got some USA spec bi-xenons, i got some random Onexi HID kit for now till i can get some D1S from the swap meet.

[mike@hidconcept]

audia4turbo22, if you have bi-xenon housings, you cannot use D2S bulbs + ignitor setup because of the space issue.
Basically, you don't have enough room to have ignitor + D2S bulb and close the headlight door cap.

[mike@hidconcept]

We're sorry about the recently increased prices on D1S kit and other components such as valeo ballasts.
We have been getting so many orders for valeo ballasts and our supply could not satisfy the demand (we are guessing many A4's are having bad ballasts). Therefore, we had to source from other supplier, which we had to pay much higher price for them.
Hopefully, the price settles down soon.

[mxrz]

audia4turbo22, if you have bi-xenon housings, you cannot use D2S bulbs + ignitor setup because of the space issue.
Basically, you don't have enough room to have ignitor + D2S bulb and close the headlight door cap.

That's wrong, that only applies to your oddly shaped universal igniter. The XeSparQ has the same size and shape as the base of a D1S bulb, so it fits and secures in the housing just like a real D1S bulb. It also has a 5 year warranty and D2S bulbs are uber cheap, so in the long run, the 70$ per unit cost isn't all that much. This is the best and practically only solution for anyone who wants a 50~55watt D1S setup.

[mike@hidconcept]

That's wrong, that only applies to your oddly shaped universal igniter. The XeSparQ has the same size and shape as the base of a D1S bulb, so it fits and secures in the housing just like a real D1S bulb. It also has a 5 year warranty and D2S bulbs are uber cheap, so in the long run, the 70$ per unit cost isn't all that much. This is the best and practically only solution for anyone who wants a 50~55watt D1S setup.

Oh, I was pointing at the valeo oem ignitors.
Yes, the XeSparQ ignitor is the perfect solution.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

my D2S is running fine but i will soon buy D1S setup because i wanna do it right.

[dahonam]

Kirk, PM me. I can get D1S bulbs at a relatively good price, they are not oem but they do the job, and come with a 1 yr warranty

[jschrauwen]

That's wrong, that only applies to your oddly shaped universal igniter. The XeSparQ has the same size and shape as the base of a D1S bulb, so it fits and secures in the housing just like a real D1S bulb. It also has a 5 year warranty and D2S bulbs are uber cheap, so in the long run, the 70$ per unit cost isn't all that much. This is the best and practically only solution for anyone who wants a 50~55watt D1S setup.

You sir are definitely switched on and have a firm, practical, logical and thorough grasp on the subject.
Can I assume that the igniter size/shape and electrical connector to the D1S is identical to the D3S. That in fact, the only difference between the two is the type of exotic gasses used within each with the newer D3S's being more environmentally friendly?

If the above is true, then using that XeSparQ D1/D2 adapter (when fitted with a D2S bulb) will still fit into my D3S projector housing? Or will the bulb base still need to be "notched" to sit snuggly into the projector's bulb mounting plate? If so, I'm completely ok with that subtle "notching".

If the above is true, then theoretically, my oem igniter cable/connector will still fit correctly into that XeSparQ adapter?

If were still good so far, my next objective would be to find a 50 ballast solution that's a plug n play friendly as possible to the oem headlight wiring/loom.
Is there such a ballast? Is it contingent on the type/brand of my 08 A5's bixenon ballast type currently in use?
If not, what are my options for a good 50W ballast?

[diagnosticator]

D3 lamps have a different notch location compared to D2 or D1. You would need to find a D3 ballast that offers 50 watt output. The ignitor is not specific for ballast output rating.