Vancouver Police?What a joke

[gpxluke]

Was cruising at 60Km/h today on the road at 8:00PM. I just passed an intersection, saw this cop following me and 2 secs later I heard the siren and see those bright light. I pulled over, two cops came up to me...here is the conversation.

Cop:Hello sir. Why your license plate is not in the CENTRAL? (I am pretty sure he said that, and btw, I am running skidplate)
Me:Oh, hello officer, does it have to be in the centre?
Cop:"Silent for 5 secs" May I have your insurance paper and your dirver's license?
Me:Sure no problem (handed him the insurance paper and driver's license)

Another cop walk around my car and check if there is anything illegal using a LED flashlight

After 5 mins first cop came bak and handed me a ticket

Me:Hello officer. what's the ticket for.
Cop:Hello sir, your car does not have reflectors on so I give u a ticket. Also, I did not give you another ticket that's $300. You should not turn on your front fog light if it's not even foggy. Also, if you pay the ticket early within 30 days you have a 25$ discount.
Me:(WHAT THE FUCK...DISCOUNT?FOR WHAT, BOXING DAY COMING FUCK YOU)...thank you sir.

I didn't know what to say...this is one of the most ridiculous cops i've ever seen. why can't they just focus more on speeding, and other criminal cases. I think we are not paying them to piss us off...

[jayM]

ruff, where did this happen luke?, it could have easily been my car... so how much was the ticket? and at least it wasn't a VI...

[gpxluke]

$109 for the ticket...

[gmx]

$25 discount, LOL

[J Ozzie]

****** asss cops!

[MacDaddy]

just dispute it, theres nothing wrong with the licence plate being off center, it just can't have anything covering it or be behind anything (like your windshield) and of course cut or bent to make it smaller, etc. fog lights, i'd check the code on that one, but i don't think its illegal for them to be on, but if it is and you go to court you can tell the judge it was an honest mistake and claim hardship and worst cse you get a minimum fine.

[Silver streak]

What if it was foggy where you started driving from, and you left them on? Could of happened, go to court and say that and take a photo of the front of your car with plate in "plain view " No way judge will let that stick, maybe if more people call them on poorly written tickets they will see what a waist of time and money it is for the courts.

[ABanT]

Wait... you didn't get a ticket for no plate. You didn't get the ticket for fogs on, he said you're lucky he's not giving you one. Right?

So you got a ticket for no reflectors? I assume that means you have blacked out or smoked reflectors? Is that what you got the ticket for?

[m5racer]

hahaha, fogs, hahahahaha

[gpxluke]

That's right...he didn't give me a ticket for the fog light just my color match relfectors...and o well, i will definitely dispute it

[Siggiepop]

25 discount LOL!
there isn't a law on turning on fog lights we have fog lights had DRL.
take it to court

[Clown4]

fuck him,
i'd start a fight (with words LOL) right at that time.
it's my fucking audi, why can't i turn the fog light on?
I wanna drive safely, who knows the fucking fog might just come in the next second?
and fuck the reflectors, how many cars out there have reflectors on??
They should pay more attention to those old fucking cars that are about to break down, producing harmful fumes and what not, and will ram into any of our awesome audi's in no time...

i just think this ticket is really gay, by really, i mean super really. That is ridiculous, i'd even take a video clip if I had the camera with me. Put it on facebook to show how sad the vancouver fucking police are.

They're just jealous to see good cars that they can't have~
and when they can't find anything wrong to ticket for,
they'd pickup something really insinificant and ridiculous.

FUCK THEM.

[gpxluke]

yeah i know the ticket is really gay...my frd got the same ticket from the same cop on the same day (he dirves a E92 335i)..

I just don't think it's appropriate to give someone a ticket for not having reflectors on

[MacDaddy]

maybe if more people call them on poorly written tickets they will see what a waist of time and money it is for the courts.

the traffic courts are already back logged over a year now, and the wait is as long as its ever been, and its getting longer.
The government realizes this, but they don't care because they make so much money off tickets. what would really screw over police departments is if motorists started following the law to the "T" because all law enforcement would go bankrupt.

[Clown4]

yeah i know the ticket is really gay...my frd got the same ticket from the same cop on the same day (he dirves a E92 335i)..

I just don't think it's appropriate to give someone a ticket for not having reflectors on

jeff's car? XD

[Louis J.]

Of course he didn't give you a ticket for the plate on the side or for running the fogs because neither of those arguments would stick in court. Many cars have the OEM plate holder on the side and fogs are OEM DRLs. What an asshole! The worst part is that $86 is not worth wasting your day at court.

[KayC]

hey luke i got the exact same ticket for fog lights -_- ...check out this thread, http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?t=551468 it basically tells you to go to the supervisor and ask him to cancel the ticket cause theres no such law as u cant have it on if its not foggy or rainy ..

[Audized]

This is ridiculous. The fogs are our DRL's, which we are required to run under the Canadian laws. In that sense, Luke got a ticket for respecting and obeying the Canadian laws. Turning them off is not an option either. Well, my friend once found himself in a deep pile of sh*t for not having his DRL's on. Furthermore, I don't think there's a law in BC restricting use of fogs in fair weather condition. It seems to me that the cops should know more about laws and cars before they can hit the road and issue tickets to innocent drivers..

Luke, I'm very sorry to hear about this. Best of luck!

[gpxluke]

forget about the fog light...I just think that running without reflectors, how dangerous it is.. alot of cars on the road don't have any on them..like those Japan imported ones

[BNZ TOY]

like others have said, yeah fogs ARE our DRLs. It's great you kept it cool and took the 86 dollar ticket. Arguing with them AFTER they have written the ticket can only end worse.

"your license plate is not in the CENTRAL"? talk about being desperate for a good reason to pull you over. After all that he gave you a ticket for an issue that he didn't notice before he pulled you over! Fail.

[AvanTTix]

the ticket wasn't given for the foglights but for the lack of amber reflectors.

yeah i know the ticket is really gay...my frd got the same ticket from the same cop on the same day (he dirves a E92 335i)..

I just don't think it's appropriate to give someone a ticket for not having reflectors on

unfortunately that's just the law... the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations require that all vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1958 be equipped w/ reflectors.

Reflective devices

4.21 (1) A vehicle must be equipped with at least one red reflector at the rear of the vehicle, either separate or incorporated into a tail lamp, that is mounted at a height of not less than 38 cm and not more than 1.83 m.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a vehicle manufactured before January 1, 1958.

(3) Only amber reflectors may be mounted on the front or side of a vehicle.

(4) Only red reflectors may be mounted on the rear of a vehicle or on the side of the vehicle at or toward the rear of the vehicle.

(5) A vehicle with an overall width of 2.05 m or more, or a trailer or semitrailer having a gross weight in excess of 1 400 kg, must be equipped with at least

(a) 2 amber reflectors mounted on the side of the vehicle, trailer or semitrailer near the front,

(b) 2 amber reflectors mounted on the side of the vehicle, trailer or semitrailer near the rear, and

(c) 2 red reflectors mounted on the rear of the vehicle, trailer or semitrailer.

(6) A trailer or semitrailer must be equipped with at least one red reflector on the rear of the vehicle at each side.

(7) A pole trailer must be equipped with at least

(a) one amber reflector on each side of the vehicle at the front and the horizontal mid-point, and

(b) one red reflector on the rear of the vehicle or load at each side.

(8) A commercial trailer with a width of more than 2.05 m and a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4 536 kg must be equipped with reflective markings on the rear and side of the vehicle to meet the approved standards established by the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) and the applicable SAE standards

(a) on and after January 1, 2000 if the vehicle was manufactured on or after December 1, 1993, and

(b) on and after January 1, 2002 if the vehicle was manufactured before December 1, 1993.

(9) Despite subsections (1) to (7), reflective markings may replace red or amber reflectors on the side or rear of a vehicle.

[en. B.C. Reg. 476/98, s. 2; am. B.C. Reg. 413/99.]

cops are there to enforce the laws whether or not the law makes sense, and whether or not there are other criminal activities going on out there...

basically anyone who swapped they headlights w/ e-codes is in violation of the law... i used to have a set of reflectors in the glove-box when i switched to e-code just in case i would get stopped for this exact reason... not sure if that would have gotten me out of a ticket though...

i hate to say it but you gotta pay to play...

[andyisgood]

i thought colour matched reflectors still reflect light??

[Louis J.]

Avanteix, good point and I guess if you color-match them, it's pretty obvious that you don't have them but IIRC, B6s don't have reflectors and the B7s have the same reflectors in the tail lights. This would need to be pointed out though. I had mine properly deleted.

[AvanTTix]

the B6 had the reflectors integrated in the headlights...



i should have been more specific when i said everyone who swapped to e-codes... that comment is for B6s.