Rear End Braking Loose

**aalipio** · 11-13-2008 10:24 AM

Is this normal?!
Im sitting on H&R springs and when ever i take a turn hard, i can feel the rear end come loose to the point where im counter steering a bit... Normal?! or is it my tires?

**Beelzeebub** · 11-13-2008 11:18 AM

maybe you've turned off your ESP?

**ngng** · 11-13-2008 11:36 AM

that's odd with just springs

**91gl** · 11-13-2008 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by aalipio

Is this normal?!
Im sitting on H&R springs and when ever i take a turn hard, i can feel the rear end come loose to the point where im counter steering a bit... Normal?! or is it my tires?

i would be happy if i was you

oversteer > understeer

are you lifting off the gas mid corner?

**mbgt72** · 11-13-2008 12:11 PM

Odd yes, but I would also say a bit of fun, hehe. I don't see why springs would do that though.

**aalipio** · 11-13-2008 12:19 PM

I pretty much drive with esp off but find it a little odd that it brakes loose so easily. sway bar is stock from what I know but will have to double check. could it be the tires?

**...Mark...** · 11-13-2008 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by aalipio

could it be the tires?

What are you running and how much wear do they have?

**aalipio** · 11-13-2008 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by 91gl

i would be happy if i was you

oversteer > understeer

are you lifting off the gas mid corner?

HAHA dont get me wrong, its very fun! just curious if springs alone would cause that...

lifting off: nope but im not really even on the gas either...

**91gl** · 11-13-2008 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by aalipio

HAHA dont get me wrong, its very fun! just curious if springs alone would cause that...

lifting off: nope but im not really even on the gas either...

wierd, because im sure the spring rates on the H&R's are not even that aggressive. i have 700lb front and 1100 lb rears with an rs4 rear bar and still understeer a bit. only if im hard into a turn and lift off then ill have the rear come out a bit

**poopypants** · 11-13-2008 01:24 PM

Sounds like your rear toe is either neutral or out. Actually it should be slightly in. I take it that you did not align your car after you installed your springs? If so, they aligned them rear incorrectly.

**cotmfk** · 11-13-2008 02:06 PM

ESP would definitely have to be off! Otherwise, it looks like you have some good replies going.

How much oversteer are you talking? (all of a sudden 180...or more reasonable?)

**aalipio** · 11-13-2008 02:35 PM

HMMM all great replies but not sure which direction to go first... Im not complaining or anything because it does make the ride more enjoyable!!!

( almost feels like rwd but easier to correct) So based on all the replies I take it that its not normal... now im really curious. I guess I'll probably start with my tires and get back to you guys...

The springs came with the car but it does drive straight no prob. Ill have to actually double check the rear sway...any suggestions to distinguish between stock n rs4?