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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Confused about upgrading...

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    Hey guys so ive saved up a bit and since Xmas is rolling around hpefully i will be getting some extra money and should have around $500-$600 to upgrade.

    Now im confused as should i upgrade more on the performance end (Exhaust, Piggies) or suspension (maybe sport springs to lower the car, H & R Sway bars) etc.?

    got any ideas???

    ps. Im already stage 1 with giac x, 710n and samco tbb so i dont know whats next.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Blue_S4's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    i see you live in NJ. i would say, keep saving it, unless you need to replace something, and wait until spring to buy it when you dont have to worry about your car being either too low, or a new exhaust getting tattered by bad roads and salt.

    Just a thought.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings mholme's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Would this be work you're planning on doing yourself or taking it to a shop? And suspension is a performance upgrade.
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    00 S4-APR 93 Piggies Custom True Dual exhaust AWE DTS ECS/Bilstein Coilovers 710N's Samco TBB Omori 52mm boost gauge SOLD

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    I'm kind of in the same boat..let me know what you decide

    Best of luck to ya

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Quote Originally Posted by 00s4slvr View Post
    Hey guys so ive saved up a bit and since Xmas is rolling around hpefully i will be getting some extra money and should have around $500-$600 to upgrade.

    Now im confused as should i upgrade more on the performance end (Exhaust, Piggies) or suspension (maybe sport springs to lower the car, H & R Sway bars) etc.?

    got any ideas???

    ps. Im already stage 1 with giac x, 710n and samco tbb so i dont know whats next.
    if i were you man, i'd look into piggies and maybe searching the classifieds for some good prices on suspension. having more flow in the downpipes really makes a HP difference you will feel and also give the car a great sound. I have piggies, and then also have the main cats cut out and have test pipes welded in. sounds awesome! .
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Senior Member Two Rings nvrfollow's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    I'd for sure do piggies.

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    Senior Member Two Rings badbiturbo's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    which ever comes up first on the classifieds!!

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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    motor and trans mounts in my opinion :)

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    Veteran Member Four Rings wofman's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    downpipes cost more than your budget. Do sways. Then downpipes next for power. Springs/shocks for suspension. Contact Sam at EliteMotorsNJ.

    (I know, I have A6, but I check out S4 forum b/c same engine)
    Nothing going to bring it back: 2000 C5 2.7T 6sp MT
    Ming Blue, S6 Blades, EuroSpoiler,
    GIAC-93, AWE DPs to Milltek Catback,
    RS4 Clutch, JHM DT-Stabilizer, VAST Short-Shifter,
    H&R Sways, Eibach Pro-kit, Bilstein Sport Shocks, etc., ...
    NOW: '10 Jetta TDI w 6MT, Revo Tune Commuter Car

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    Veteran Member Four Rings mholme's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Quote Originally Posted by wofman View Post
    downpipes cost more than your budget. Do sways. Then downpipes next for power.
    Piggies are free, if he's doin them himself. Just gonna cost him some blood sweat and tears
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    Veteran Member Three Rings DoGGRoBBer's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    PiGGies.... FTW.... More HP and better flow for the Turbos...what's not to like..
    2000 S4 SSP Tuned Stage III ,K04's,SSAC Downpies, Scorpion Exhaust, RS4 Clutch, APR Bi-Pipes, APR Snub mount, VAST MBC & TCD running 20-22 Psi., APR SMIC, Bosch 710N DV's
    2008 VW Touareg

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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    seems like the piggies are a big hit!! I dont know its tempting to do, i got one guy thats willing to trade me his piggies for my stock dp's cause hes selling the car and im wondering if there is anything wrong with them??

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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    also the suspension really caught my eyes, as well as springs/shocks...

    Im probably gonna wait until spring to do the exhaust unless an awesome deal on a borla pops up (my favorite sounding exhaust besides awe twin's).

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Quote Originally Posted by 00s4slvr View Post
    seems like the piggies are a big hit!! I dont know its tempting to do, i got one guy thats willing to trade me his piggies for my stock dp's cause hes selling the car and im wondering if there is anything wrong with them??
    I saw that, no that is a good deal. He is a reputable member on here. You will really like the difference.
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Four Rings wofman's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    "piggies" means different things ... (VAST started using it) -- can mean totally gutted pipes (hence the "free" reference) or can mean gutted pre-cats and high flow cats by VAST in your OEM piping (trade-in)
    Nothing going to bring it back: 2000 C5 2.7T 6sp MT
    Ming Blue, S6 Blades, EuroSpoiler,
    GIAC-93, AWE DPs to Milltek Catback,
    RS4 Clutch, JHM DT-Stabilizer, VAST Short-Shifter,
    H&R Sways, Eibach Pro-kit, Bilstein Sport Shocks, etc., ...
    NOW: '10 Jetta TDI w 6MT, Revo Tune Commuter Car

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Vast uses new OEM 400 cell Leistritz cats. Being 400 cell they are already high flow, so they have no reason to install anything else in there. Generally Piggies are just stock dp's with the primary cat gutted.

    If you know how to weld then i vote for doing piggies and a custom exhaust. It could be done for far less than $600 and will free up a good bit of power. If you want to go suspension i would get a good spring/shock combo to start with...i love my Bilstein/Vogtland setup but i dont think you could get the springs and struts for $600. You could do what i did and get the springs first then go back and add the struts when you have the money. People say that you shouldnt do this, but my stock struts handled it fine and were much more comfortable on the streets than the bilsteins(obviously lol). However, i would just save up and get the springs and struts(or full co's) and the Stern adjustable control arms all at once. That way you could get a proper alignment to really bring out the suspensions potential and you wont burn through tires every couple of months lol.

    Trust me man...ive been tuning cars since 00. Its always better to keep saving and do things right the first time around. Good luck and enjoy the new power/handling with your new mods!
    2000 Brilliant Black S4
    -DNA Catback, Piggies, Darintake w/ITG panel filter, 710n's, 034 TBB, 034 F hose, Vast clutch, JHM shifter & bushings, Vogtland/Koni's, Hotchkis Sways, ECS 12.5mm spacers

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    2014 Fiat 500 Sport
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    i still say just do piggies for free, buy motor/trans mounts, and wait on suspension until you have a littlemore dough

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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    damn man i think im gonna trade for the piggies and then just hook that up to the stock suspension for winter then when springs rolls around possibly an exhaust and hopefully suspension (im gonna try to squeeze H&R Sways out of my Gma for xmas)!!

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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    save your money for suspension until spring.. don't lower the car or get a stiffer suspension for this winter! do piggies and a cheap or custom catback... if you do the isntall yourself you're in the ballpark of 5-600 dollars!
    '07 S4 Avant - The Purpetrator
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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    yeah well see or maybe what about ss auto chrome?? Exhaust + DP's for $450 Shipped??

    Will this throw a CEL though?

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    Active Member Four Rings Jung's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    *facepalm* read sticky! lol seriously

    get CELiminators = set
    '07 S4 Avant - The Purpetrator
    there's just something about her, maybe it's her awful accent but i've always wanted to tonguepunch her fartbox - cruz

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    Quote Originally Posted by 00s4slvr View Post
    yeah well see or maybe what about ss auto chrome?? Exhaust + DP's for $450 Shipped??

    Will this throw a CEL though?
    The fitment is hit or miss... My buddy has this on his car and still cannot fix the exhaust leak, but its up to you. if you need install done on that SSP Tuning is great for getting work done.
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    Active Member Four Rings 00s4slvr's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    where would SSP be located??

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    Veteran Member Three Rings DoGGRoBBer's Avatar
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    Re: Confused about upgrading...

    If the Piggies are a trade... or a wash...then do it.... The turbos will spool sooner than with stock (all 4 cats) down pipes.

    If you are interested in SSP, then its best you PM Greg on your own. They are located in Long Island. He has a great rep with many of us Ziners.
    2000 S4 SSP Tuned Stage III ,K04's,SSAC Downpies, Scorpion Exhaust, RS4 Clutch, APR Bi-Pipes, APR Snub mount, VAST MBC & TCD running 20-22 Psi., APR SMIC, Bosch 710N DV's
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