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    Veteran Member Four Rings KPC1.8TQuat's Avatar
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    Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

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    So, finally got my hands on some 17' S4 Avus rims off a b5 s4 for my winter setup. I am calling up tire places looking for some blizzak LM 25's. So I call up VIP auto because they are having a winter tire sale. He asks me what car I have and I say a 03 A4 quattro but the rims are off an 01 S4. Then he says, ok what tires do you want? I say H rated 225/45/17 blizzak LM 25's. He says I don't see that tire size for the A4. I say, well that's because they are going on S4 rims.

    Long story short he says and I quote, "you can put tires on whatever rims you want but they have to be meant for your car because the speed ratings can be different."

    So now because I'm new to this modding scene, and this may sound stupid but is he right? I mean, I just ended up ordereing the blizzaks off tirerack.com in the size I asked for and I'm having one of there preferred installer mount and balance them.

    So is this VIP guy talking out of his ass or am I really doing something I shouldn't be?

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Nah dude... you're fine. Winter tires are usually rated up to 80mph. I guess it could be a store policy of theirs... but it doesn't make much sense. What's the difference if you bought rims from them or bought your S4 wheels? They're both 5x112so doesn't mean that they're meant for your car?

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    So, finally got my hands on some 17' S4 Avus rims off a b5 s4 for my winter setup. I am calling up tire places looking for some blizzak LM 25's. So I call up VIP auto because they are having a winter tire sale. He asks me what car I have and I say a 03 A4 quattro but the rims are off an 01 S4. Then he says, ok what tires do you want? I say H rated 225/45/17 blizzak LM 25's. He says I don't see that tire size for the A4. I say, well that's because they are going on S4 rims.

    Long story short he says and I quote, "you can put tires on whatever rims you want but they have to be meant for your car because the speed ratings can be different."

    So now because I'm new to this modding scene, and this may sound stupid but is he right? I mean, I just ended up ordereing the blizzaks off tirerack.com in the size I asked for and I'm having one of there preferred installer mount and balance them.

    So is this VIP guy talking out of his ass or am I really doing something I shouldn't be?
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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Maybe what hes saying is the smaller tires will set off your speedometer which is true because the rolling diameter is different then stock. But its fraction with the 235-> 225 tire size so it doesn't even matter.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Yeah I figured I was fine. It's probably just a store policy of theirs.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by vdubstreets View Post
    Maybe what hes saying is the smaller tires will set off your speedometer which is true because the rolling diameter is different then stock. But its fraction with the 235-> 225 tire size so it doesn't even matter.
    No thats not what he is saying, A ton of tires store will only put tires on rims that meet the speed rating of the oem tire. you either tell them they are after market rims or find a car that has those sizes from the factory. I would just tell that company to fuck off and shop elsewhere. What was the best price you have found for those tires? I might be able to help.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    My friend just bought those tires for his b5 s4 they'll work

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitch303 View Post
    No thats not what he is saying, A ton of tires store will only put tires on rims that meet the speed rating of the oem tire. you either tell them they are after market rims or find a car that has those sizes from the factory. I would just tell that company to fuck off and shop elsewhere. What was the best price you have found for those tires? I might be able to help.
    That is all true, but I think the guy I talked to is just an idiot or following some extremly strict store policy.

    The Michelin Pilots that came with the car are H rated (130mph) and the Blizzak LM25's I asked for are also H rated. So the speed rating argument is basically void.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Most likely he is an idiot, I can't rationalize his position.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    He is following store policy too closely.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by illaudiill View Post
    NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yeah, been rocking the blizzaks and 17" S4's for a few weeks now. Can't complain. Definitely need to get an alignment though.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Costco Tire shop will do the same, stick to store policy. Whatever size is supposed to go on the car is all they will sell. Nothing bigger or smaller. Kinda stupid but at the same time they are just protecting their own ass.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    Computers make people dumb...
    what he said ^^^

    they are winter tires... it doesnt matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papachristou View Post
    what he said ^^^

    they are winter tires... it doesnt matter
    Seriously, you arent going to go race in them or go at high speeds, are u??? lol

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by 02SILVANT View Post
    Seriously, you arent going to go race in them or go at high speeds, are u??? lol
    Guys, this thread of mine is way old. Someone just brought it back. Like I said, I'm been using the blizzaks on my 17" s4 rims for a few weeks now and everything is great.

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPA4 View Post
    Computers make people dumb...

    I bet if you bashed that cylinder into the square hole hard enough / enough times, it would eventually fit. Problem solved. Man I'm a great computer tech.
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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Sorry to come into this super late but a lot of places are like that......I know because I wanted to do the same thing with my car and a bunch of places said that they would put the tires on the wheels but they wouldnt mount them on my car!!!

    Seems like total bullshit to me but stores have policies
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRoller USP View Post
    Sorry to come into this super late but a lot of places are like that......I know because I wanted to do the same thing with my car and a bunch of places said that they would put the tires on the wheels but they wouldnt mount them on my car!!!

    Seems like total bullshit to me but stores have policies
    Yeah, I ended up at a NTB and they didn't even think twice about it. Had my S4 rims mounted and balanced in no time. When I asked for an alignment though they said they couldn't do it?!

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    Re: Who is the idiot? Me or VIP auto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious View Post
    He is following store policy too closely.

    No one makes a Z-rated snow tire.
    Yeah but they should!!
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