12v or 30v

[G Men 08]

hey guys can you tell if this is a 12 valve or a 30 valve?


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=35

[Squarrl]

wow i have never seen that interior colour

[akielb]

30v - I think 12v were only 96 and 97, but I'm a 1.8 guy so WTF do I know

[G Men 08]

im pretty sure that early 98s were made with the 12v.. and i love the interior!! lol, but a guy on these forums said its a 12 valve from the site i posted, i dont see how he knows that thats why im askin, thanks guys

[Kronic Budz]

this may help. It could be either engine though.


http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff/

[Siena]

It's a 30V.

12V models were built up to August 1997.

[G Men 08]

this may help. It could be either engine though.


http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff/

wow man thats an awesome thread thanks!!.. according to that it is a 30 valve, as all 98's were. thanks for the help guys

[djwimbo]

It's a 30V.

12V models were built up to August 1997.

The tails give that away for an early '98 model. I know the '98.5s all have the 30V.

August is the split for early 98's and lat 97's though. I swear I had an early '98 12V in the shop this week.

Honestly, call up the seller and have him take a pic under the hood. That way you know for sure.

[Siena]

Hmm, perhaps US-spec cars are different to what we have here in the UK / Europe.

The old tails where replaced in July '96 for the mid-ones, and ran till '99.

The 12V engines where also phased out, and replaced by the 30V units from September '97.

[Jibberific]

for ultimate satisfaction check out the fantastic 20 valve models!

[djwimbo]

for Ultimate Satisfaction Check Out The Fantastic 20 Valve Models!

24v-t > 20v-t

[G Men 08]

nehh i dont want a 1.8t, cause for one i want an automatic, and for two theres the big world of modding for this engine lol and i dont want that.. cant really afford it either thats why im sellin my b6 and looking for somthing a bit cheaper for the next few years then ill get a nice a6 with the 40 valve

[TMorris]

Ok so theres a lot of info floating in this thread so im going to clean it up for you.

in NA:
96, 97, 98 all had the 12V
98.5 up until 2001 had the 30V

If you want to tell the diff in 98 and 98.5 the easiest way (if it hasnt been molested) is the taillights, those on that car are the 98 taillights. Otherwise you need to look in the interior, 98.5 had the updated radio and upgraded tails (The tails are still different then the 99.5+).

The car in question is a 12V and i would put money on it.

[G Men 08]

according to this link 98s regaurdless of the tail lights are 30 valve.. i will call about it tomorrow to make sure http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff/

[Kronic Budz]

yea man i know a good bit info on this kind of stuff.


it is very hard to say what kind of engine it has, it shows to be a early 98(12v) because these reasons....

audi emblem under side turn signals, rear tails, old style radio.

reasons it could be a 30v is because it looks to have sport suspension, and sport wheels which i dont think were available for the early 98 12v...

[AudiA4_20T]

according to this link 98s regaurdless of the tail lights are 30 valve.. i will call about it tomorrow to make sure http://ctny.audiworld.com/mark/a4/diff/

thats cool but its wrong...

That car is a 12V

[TMorris]

I promise you, i almost bought a 98 i thought was a 30V.

[G Men 08]

hmm.. if its a 12 valve should i pass?

[Siena]

hmm.. if its a 12 valve should i pass?

I wouldn't pass it up, based on it being a 12V.

That car just looks so clean, and 12V motors are as smooth as later 30V ones, without the common camshaft chain issues.

[Kronic Budz]

I wouldn't pass it up, based on it being a 12V.

That car just looks so clean, and 12V motors are as smooth as later 30V ones, without the common camshaft chain issues.

honestly man, i like my 12v, its not super fast but whos cares, a4's arent supposed to be super fast. It is a very smooth fun DD with a few mods like exhaust sound system susp ect.

but it being a automatic is what i would be concerned about...

not gunna lie i like the smoothness and how my engine drives over the newer b6 and that meaning the b5 turbo engines as well.(unless there totally aftermarket with crazy turbos and chips and w/e the hell you turbo freaks do.. haha) Even with 120k miles its just so much smoother IMO.

190 hp would be pretty nice compared to the 172 hp. But torque aint bad at 185....

[TMorris]

If you are getting it just for DD and nothing else matters. Get it. No point in paying more for a 30V for 18 extra HP

[G Men 08]

yeah thats true^^.. i just didnt know if there were "more" problems with the 12 valve or not.. i also found an 00 a6 4.2 for sale as well.. decisions decisions haha thanks for the help fellas

[TMorris]

The 2.8 in the A6 is a 30V so if you want bigger then that is the way to go but if you just want a daily the 12V is reliable and cheap.

[4A Play]

wow butter-nut leather. MMMMmmmmmmm

[G Men 08]

well i had the dealer send me the carfax and all that via email, he sent me the original window sticker and it says that the car is a 30 valve 190 hp 2.8

[flynnr]

Nice! so its a win win now for you... if its a 30v then you have that benefit of having the upgrade, but if its not, (when you go look at the engine bay youll know) you should be able to talk him down in price a bit more... tell him that you said it was a 30v and if its only the 12v you want a discount

[G Men 08]

thats what im thinkin^^.. either way, think i should just offer 6 grand out the door with tax title n tags included? should be a good price right...

[djwimbo]

thats what im thinkin^^.. either way, think i should just offer 6 grand out the door with tax title n tags included? should be a good price right...

dude, You can get V6 Quattro cars cheaper, keep shopping. It's not like there isn't going to be another one around ever again.

<-- paid $3800

[97audia4]

that is a 12v, the dead give away is the Audi symbol under the side marker

[G Men 08]

idk guess ill find out for sure, but he sent me a photo copy of the original window sticker msrp of the car with the options is 35k n some change, 17 mpg city rated 27 mpg highway rated and under technical it says 2.8 liter, 190hp, DOHC 30 valve V6, with digital electronic engine management

[B5Quattro190]

that is a 12v, the dead give away is the Audi symbol under the side marker

It's not a 12v considering my car's the same exact one, except mine's emerald green and has beige leather. Tiptronic transmissions in the A4's started early 98, thus it applying to the 30v engines. 12v engines as stated in this thread were from 96-97.

[G Men 08]

well it was a 30 valve, i didnt buy it because it seems like it would need alot of work, brakes were really poor didnt feel like they wanted to stop the car, tires were almost bald and i said somthin and all i got was "well it passed nys inspection" and the steering was real loose.. felt like i was drivin my 89 f 150

[B5Quattro190]

well it was a 30 valve, i didnt buy it because it seems like it would need alot of work, brakes were really poor didnt feel like they wanted to stop the car, tires were almost bald and i said somthin and all i got was "well it passed nys inspection" and the steering was real loose.. felt like i was drivin my 89 f 150

Ha ha, so is your plan to just stick with your b6 and ride it out? Or have you looked around for other vehicles at a cheaper price?

[Siena]

I knew it would be a 30V.

Never heard of 12V motors in '98 model year.

[G Men 08]

sold the b6 yesterday lol

[1fstavant]

where in ny you located

[G Men 08]

upstate.. about right smack dab in between rochester and syracuse...

[YoungGentleman86]

Ok so theres a lot of info floating in this thread so im going to clean it up for you.

in NA:
96, 97, 98 all had the 12V
98.5 up until 2001 had the 30V

If you want to tell the diff in 98 and 98.5 the easiest way (if it hasnt been molested) is the taillights, those on that car are the 98 taillights. Otherwise you need to look in the interior, 98.5 had the updated radio and upgraded tails (The tails are still different then the 99.5+).

The car in question is a 12V and i would put money on it.

bit
off... cause i have the early 98 with the old tails, audi logo under the side markers, the two piece door handles and 2 piece headlight and..... I have a 30v. 12v stopped mid 97.

[B5Quattro190]

bit
off... cause i have the early 98 with the old tails, audi logo under the side markers, the two piece door handles and 2 piece headlight and..... I have a 30v. 12v stopped mid 97.

good thing theres many of us that can agree to this, ha ha..

[B5Quattro190]

sold the b6 yesterday lol

lol so what are you rockin' now?