Do you need a FMIC to run meth?

[KareemA4]

Just curious if there is another way that you can do it without using a FMIC.

[fire27]

they do 2 different things and fmic +meth = win
meth without fmic=loss
you will have less of a cooling with an increase in octane which means you will have more engine lag. if you want to know what engine lag is go down the highway for an hr without the airbox connected. then pull over and connect it then go again
really get fmic before the meth

[Maverick]

FMIC is better than meth for one simple reason, you dont have to fill the washer fluid reservior all the time!!! I do that everyday.

[ConroeS4]

FMIC is better than meth for one simple reason, you dont have to fill the washer fluid reservior all the time!!! I do that everyday.

You really have to do it that often?

[KareemA4]

yeah, im prob. going to get a FMIC but i was thinking in the event that i dont get it if there was a way to run meth without it.

[20vturbo]

they do 2 different things and fmic +meth = win
meth without fmic=loss
you will have less of a cooling with an increase in octane which means you will have more engine lag. if you want to know what engine lag is go down the highway for an hr without the airbox connected. then pull over and connect it then go again
really get fmic before the meth

whaaaaaaaaaat?

[AudiA4_20T]

they do 2 different things and fmic +meth = win
meth without fmic=loss
you will have less of a cooling with an increase in octane which means you will have more engine lag. if you want to know what engine lag is go down the highway for an hr without the airbox connected. then pull over and connect it then go again
really get fmic before the meth

What? Meth offers cooling and detonation suppression its not like they are inverses of each other... You certainly can run it without a FMIC and it WILL help...

Kareem, why aren't you getting your front end fixed? And why don't you just forget the meth, get a Racetec and be done with it?

[20vturbo]

yeah, im prob. going to get a FMIC but i was thinking in the event that i dont get it if there was a way to run meth without it.

I f I am not mistaken your car is bone stock, why would you need meth inj?

[mike-2ptzero]

Is drinking water good for you if you have a cork in your mouth?

[20vturbo]

What? Meth offers cooling and detonation suppression its not like they are inverses of each other... You certainly can run it without a FMIC and it WILL help...

Kareem, why aren't you getting your front end fixed? And why don't you just forget the meth, get a Racetec and be done with it?

I thought just whaaaaat was enough

[20vturbo]

"you will have less of a cooling with an increase in octane which means you will have more engine lag. if you want to know what engine lag is go down the highway for an hr without the airbox connected. then pull over and connect it then go"

priceless

[fire27]

damn drunk posts guess i need to put in movee so i dont mak a totl ass of myself

[KareemA4]

yes it is bone stock, but when its out of the shop its going to Novitech Tuning and im going to get REVO stage 1 and a Test pipe. Mabey stage 2 if my friend at the dealer pulls through for me and gets the injectors.

Clint - i was going to get the boostedtech FMIC, and then i was going to get a Racetec FMIC but the money for the Racetec went down the drain becuase of shop troubles.
all the money i could have saved (becuase i was looking up all the parts on genuinevwaudiparts.com) went away when i go to the shop and the guy says that he already ordered the parts and i cant get them anywhere cheaper.
they charged $282 for each headlight.
its BS but what can i do.
and getting the parts my way saved $1,200.
i could have gotten the Racetec FMIC and still hace enough to get the meth injection from snowperformance

[20vturbo]

yes it is bone stock, but when its out of the shop its going to Novitech Tuning and im going to get REVO stage 1 and a Test pipe. Mabey stage 2 if my friend at the dealer pulls through for me and gets the injectors.

Clint - i was going to get the boostedtech FMIC, and then i was going to get a Racetec FMIC but the money for the Racetec went down the drain becuase of shop troubles.
all the money i could have saved (becuase i was looking up all the parts on genuinevwaudiparts.com) went away when i go to the shop and the guy says that he already ordered the parts and i cant get them anywhere cheaper.
they charged $282 for each headlight.
its BS but what can i do.
and getting the parts my way saved $1,200.
i could have gotten the Racetec FMIC and still hace enough to get the meth injection from snowperformance

you have a ko3 with stage 1 or poss stage 2 You don't need meth....meth is for people that run high boost have a big ass intercooler and still have high intake charge air temps....we are talking big turbos and modified blocks wich is not your case..For what you have even the side mount is enough

[20vturbo]

yes it is bone stock, but when its out of the shop its going to Novitech Tuning and im going to get REVO stage 1 and a Test pipe. Mabey stage 2 if my friend at the dealer pulls through for me and gets the injectors.

Clint - i was going to get the boostedtech FMIC, and then i was going to get a Racetec FMIC but the money for the Racetec went down the drain becuase of shop troubles.
all the money i could have saved (becuase i was looking up all the parts on genuinevwaudiparts.com) went away when i go to the shop and the guy says that he already ordered the parts and i cant get them anywhere cheaper.
they charged $282 for each headlight.
its BS but what can i do.
and getting the parts my way saved $1,200.
i could have gotten the Racetec FMIC and still hace enough to get the meth injection from snowperformance

if he ordered parts he can still return them...in the end it's your car and if you want it fixed your way he should do what you say

[AudiA4_20T]

so dont get meth and use that money for the Racetec... Seriously, talk to your parents, tell them your unsure of how the SMIC held up, and you want the Racetec.. if the guy ordered the parts from the dealer you can return them

[KareemA4]

if he ordered parts he can still return them...in the end it's your car and if you want it fixed your way he should do what you say

its too late now
and my mom isnt smart and didnt let me talk and yell at the guy

[Turb_Oh_A4]

Who runs a modified block?

[20vturbo]

Who runs a modified block?

modified meaning built rods crank pistons etc

[Maverick]

You really have to do it that often?

yeah, I had to fill the reservior everyday when I drove pleasantly

[Charlescrs6]

damn drunk posts guess i need to put in movee so i dont mak a totl ass of myself

ahahahaha

[Trev]

I was also thinking about going this route. Its not really the best bang for your buck. I was looking at $500Usd for the SP stage 2 kit at the time then i found a used FMIC kit in the classifieds for $700Cad (offered $650 and he took it).

Oh and just so you know the water/meth apparently corrodes the throttle body over time. You'll be looking at $500+ to fix that.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

lets put it this way if ur Meth failed for some odd reason, ur car is screwed with no FMIC/SMIC. An FMIC can never break well almost never, so it is absolutely necessary.

[phantom b6]

For all the people that said meth is only for high horsepower cars... I assure you it helped. For $300 it was the best bang for the buck I've ever achieved with a mod.

FMIC + Meth + 7.25* timing advance with lemmi = BIG improvement

Oh and one gallon lasted me like 6 weeks. That's with the occasional pull here and there.. couple times a week

[80CID]

I would think that water inj would really help with air temp on little k03's running high boost. Small turbos produce a lot of heat when pushed hard.

[AudiA4_20T]

I would think that water inj would really help with air temp on little k03's running high boost. Small turbos produce a lot of heat when pushed hard.

I ran it a lot on my K03, definitely noticed a difference

There is a ton of misleading info in this thread right now

[mike-2ptzero]

I would think that water inj would really help with air temp on little k03's running high boost. Small turbos produce a lot of heat when pushed hard.

Yes it does help to reduce the IAT's, but the stock SMIC needs to be upgraded because it will still just end up heat soaking anyway and then the W/I just becomes a huge waste of money since now you have a flow restriction in front of where your spraying the w/m.