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    What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

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    Title says it all. What would happen if I did a bixenon setup in single xenon ecodes? Would it be as bad or stupid as putting xenons in stock halogen housings?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Bi-xenon refers to the motor that moves the cutoff line in the main projector lens. The high beams are still halogen in Bi-xenon ecodes.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by actlsub9 View Post
    Bi-xenon refers to the motor that moves the cutoff line in the main projector lens. The high beams are still halogen in Bi-xenon ecodes.
    Wow, I was way off then wasn't I?

    So, running HID bulbs/ballast for high and low beam in xenon ecode housings is fine then?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    So, running HID bulbs/ballast for high and low beam in xenon ecode housings is fine then?
    Well, no housings were designed to have xenon bulbs for high beams.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by actlsub9 View Post
    Well, no housings were designed to have xenon bulbs for high beams.
    Yeah, but people do it all the time, don't they?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    Yeah, but people do it all the time, don't they?
    I don't remember anyone replacing their halogen high beams with xenons.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Oh...

    Maybe I'm just confused.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    the way the system works is high beams are normal high beams but the xenon housing has a flapper door that also changes the beam and adds to the regular high beams.

    so the housing has the same lens for low beam and a actuator to change the light path for high beams
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    the reason the bi-xenons lense is bigger is because there is a motor in there that when u flash ur beams u'll hear a click sound, the cutoff plate opens to allow maximum light. If u open up ur bi-xenons u'll see a little metal push button if u push it u'll see the flapper in action. the Xenon bulbs and balasts are the same in single xenon and bi-xenon. they're either D1s or D2s. If they are D1S in the bi-xenon housings u will have to buy a D2S kit to make it work with the Single Xenon housings, but if u have D2S already ur set.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    after re reading your post, do you want to replace your high beams with a xenon kit?

    I say go for it because you should never use your highbeams near other cars. it will not be a bixenon setup as audi did. but it will be a 2 xenon setup,

    just be careful because they do not turn on imediately and that may wear the bulbs/ igniters out.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    If you put a xenon kit where your halogen highbeams are in a single xenon setup you will lose your 'flash to pass' function as the HID bulb will not warm up that fast.

    This is why a bixenon setup still keeps a halogen bulb in the highbeam reflector.

    Secondly if you but a HID bulb in the reflector you will have so much light scatter you'll blind anyone in front of you.

    IMO it is a pretty useless mod.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    ^^read my mind perfectly.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Ok, I'm glad I understand more of this now. For some reason I was under the impression that running xenons in the high beam was common place.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    If you put a xenon kit where your halogen highbeams are in a single xenon setup you will lose your 'flash to pass' function as the HID bulb will not warm up that fast.

    This is why a bixenon setup still keeps a halogen bulb in the highbeam reflector.

    Secondly if you but a HID bulb in the reflector you will have so much light scatter you'll blind anyone in front of you.

    IMO it is a pretty useless mod.
    2nd.

    However, headlights that have open reflectors instead of projectors, use the D1R/D2R type HID lamps instead of the D1S/D2S types. The D1R/D2R lamps have a light shielding mask applied to the lamp glass capsule shield tube, to block light that does not shine on the road, to help reduce glare.

    Despite the glare blocking built into the D1/D2-R lamps, the H7 hibeam reflector optics are not suitable for use with HID light sources/lamps. Only in the case where the highbeams are never turned ON if there is a chance of oncomming traffic, is the retrofit of D1/D2R type lamps into the highbeam worth trying.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    A more useful mod would be to install Amber high beams.

    FOr safety reasons when passing or whatnot, the amber will be much more visible to other drivers. Also when you need that extra distance in front of you, amber will close that gap for you nicely.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Moda View Post
    A more useful mod would be to install Amber high beams.

    FOr safety reasons when passing or whatnot, the amber will be much more visible to other drivers. Also when you need that extra distance in front of you, amber will close that gap for you nicely.
    By 'amber', are you refering to 3000K HIDs?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    So, what you guys are saying is that this (for example)...

    B7 bixenon upgrade: hardware for projector housings

    ...is a waste of time and not a useful mod?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    ...is a waste of time and not a useful mod?
    Useful for what? (not being an ass, just want to know what your intention is here)
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Wow, your intelligence continues to amaze me.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ngng View Post
    Wow, your intelligence continues to amaze me.
    I'm a second year DO student at University of New England Medical School. I've got 2 bachelors degrees from UNE undergrad, one in pre-med and one in behavioral neuroscience, the second one I completed in only 3 years by the way. What have you done with your life?

    I don't know what your problem is man, but this is the second thread of mine you have been trolling. You're not contributing in any beneficial way. No one else seems to have a problem with my posts or questions.

    I guess posts like yours must make you feel pretty good about yourself.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    I'm a second year DO student at University of New England Medical School. I've got 2 bachelors degrees from UNE undergrad, one in pre-med and one in behavioral neuroscience, the second one I completed in only 3 years by the way. What have you done with your life?

    I don't know what your problem is man, but this is the second thread of mine you have been trolling. You're not contributing in any beneficial way. No one else seems to have a problem with my posts or questions.

    I guess posts like yours must make you feel pretty good about yourself.
    i dropped out of highschool and am aspiring pornographer. so you've probbly squeezed one out to my work. that's what i do with my life.

    this thread is yours? LOL.

    if you used that allmighty brain of yours and did a little research you'd have your answers for your brakes and you'd know a bixenon and single xenon are just that...BIXENON and SINGLE XENON.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Yeah, nevermind guys. For some reason I was under the impression that putting HID's in the high beam was common place.

    Here is what I'm going with now...

    Valeo European Headlight Kit

    and

    Valeo 4300k D1S OEM Kit

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Good one.

    Yellow Fog, "amber". The color spectrum is a mystery to me. I operate in UV and Infrared. You'll have to excuse me.

    Yeah I meant Yellow, Not amber.


    Quote Originally Posted by diagnosticator View Post
    By 'amber', are you refering to 3000K HIDs?
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Somebody correct me, but i remember with the ecodes you can run D2s setup. D2s is really more cost efficient in the event your bulbs ever need replacement.

    Avoid D1s if at all possible.

    The housing is correct.




    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    Yeah, nevermind guys. For some reason I was under the impression that putting HID's in the high beam was common place.

    Here is what I'm going with now...

    Valeo European Headlight Kit

    and

    Valeo 4300k D1S OEM Kit

    Any thoughts?
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    no the D1S have special housings made for the ignitor box.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    I thought his question was whether the D1s will work for the ecode housing he's looking at.

    I was under the impression that the ecode housing was made for a d2s kit.

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    no the D1S have special housings made for the ignitor box.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    the reason the bi-xenons lense is bigger is because there is a motor in there that when u flash ur beams u'll hear a click sound, the cutoff plate opens to allow maximum light. If u open up ur bi-xenons u'll see a little metal push button if u push it u'll see the flapper in action. the Xenon bulbs and balasts are the same in single xenon and bi-xenon. they're either D1s or D2s. If they are D1S in the bi-xenon housings u will have to buy a D2S kit to make it work with the Single Xenon housings, but if u have D2S already ur set.
    Well just as i said in my first post, need new ones if they're D1S. Kurt u can sell them to me though.
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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    i got the D1S kit from hidconcept and i love it. haven't had a problem with it after almost a year. definitely something you should check out.

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    Re: What if bixenon setup goes in single xenon ecodes?

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Moda View Post
    Somebody correct me, but i remember with the ecodes you can run D2s setup. D2s is really more cost efficient in the event your bulbs ever need replacement.
    It says right on the ECS website under these Valeo e-code housings that these are for D1S bulbs only...

    I would much rather use D2S because they are easier to find in other temperature ranges, and they are less expensive.

    Can you run a D2S kit in these housings?

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