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    Established Member Two Rings Cipherex's Avatar
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    new tires = weird feel

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    o.k, so got rid of the stocks and got new 19's and tires.

    But my consern is this, when i push it into a tight turn now, it feels like the ass end slides or shifts about 4-6 inches. Is it the tires (need to be warn in) or time to get a sway bar?

    I didnt notice it with the stock tires, and its not like body roll, just a little shift before it pulls thru..... any ideas?
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    mine does it too i'm curious as well.
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    Established Member Two Rings Cipherex's Avatar
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    well that makes me feel alittle better that I'm not the only one.

    How long have you had yours acting like that?


    Hopefully someone will have a good answer. I've already replaced brakes and such a while back so i know thats not the casue.
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    I think it's just the physics of having bigger wheels than what the car was meant for or at least used to.

    19" may look cool, but I'm not going any bigger than 18"

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    I think it's just the physics of having bigger wheels than what the car was meant for or at least used to.

    19" may look cool, but I'm not going any bigger than 18"
    X2. went with 18's as well


    What kind of tires are u running, some def grip better than others..(ex. $64 tire vs. $230 tire...big difference
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    if they are brand new you have to give them time to burn through the outside layer which has oils to help get them out of the molds when they are made.

    if they aren't brand new and have more then 500 miles . . . it might be the tire type and/or wheel size.
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    K - well i can deal with driving more conservative until the tires wear in. But they do have over 500 miles on them now.

    But if it is wheels size, will aftermarket coilovers and\or an rs4 swaybar help any?
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by Cipherex View Post
    Well if it is wheels size, will aftermarket coilovers and\or an rs4 swaybar help any?
    Can't hurt, put it that way.

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Do you mean the back of the car actually feels like it's sliding out?

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Get the sway bar, it will help. You won't even have to brake, just turn. lol

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    Do you mean the back of the car actually feels like it's sliding out?
    i guess its kinda hard to explain, but you know how you would get body roll on a weak car for a second in a turn, then it catches. Thats what my rear feels like, it will take a nice turn but "shifts" for a second. AnD i feel it reguardless of left or right, but only in the rear, and its not body roll.

    At first i thought my pressure was low and i was just pulling on the side of the tire in the turns, but now I'm just confussed.

    Sorry if thats confussing, not the best at explaining.
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Honestly, I think it's just because you are on 19's and the car wasn't meant for them.

    Maybe it will change when the tires wear down a bit, but I don't know.

    18's with good tires are always the safe bet to maintain handling performance without wanting to mod the suspension.

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Is that some kind of drifting when accellarating?
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    No, i dont think its a drift issue. I ordered some lowered springs, I'll put them on and see if that helps. If not, I'll go ahead and get adj. coilovers and rs4 sway. I've been wanting them anyways. I'd hate to have to downsize wheels for such a small issue, or change my driving habits. Guess its time to order more parts...

    thanks for everyones input.
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Good luck

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Do not put tire shine all over the entire tire!!
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by davidlizard View Post
    Do not put tire shine all over the entire tire!!
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by KPC1.8TQuat View Post
    Honestly, I think it's just because you are on 19's and the car wasn't meant for them.

    Maybe it will change when the tires wear down a bit, but I don't know.

    18's with good tires are always the safe bet to maintain handling performance without wanting to mod the suspension.
    I run 19"s and have never felt this. Car feels like its on rails (19" compared to 17").
    If the car is sliding wouldnt the tracktion control kick in?

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by Cipherex View Post
    No, i dont think its a drift issue. I ordered some lowered springs, I'll put them on and see if that helps. If not, I'll go ahead and get adj. coilovers and rs4 sway. I've been wanting them anyways. I'd hate to have to downsize wheels for such a small issue, or change my driving habits. Guess its time to order more parts...

    thanks for everyones input.
    make sure you get shocks too... your stock one will be done within a year (once lowered), might as well put it all together at once... you save install $ and time.

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    a sway bar will make it worse because it will only tighten up the rear end, if its sliding out. I would get a good 4 wheel alignment and get back to us. But if you are doing suspension do the suspension THEN get an alignment.

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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    Quote Originally Posted by Cipherex View Post
    well that makes me feel alittle better that I'm not the only one.

    How long have you had yours acting like that?


    Hopefully someone will have a good answer. I've already replaced brakes and such a while back so i know thats not the casue.
    forever, it feels like the rear axle is loose kinda, but i guess it is just the shift of direction.

    And Kurt sorry to break the news to u, but i'm running 18s as well, i have 245/40 ZR18's so ya it occurs with all tires i guess.

    And i have gotten a 4 wheel alignment maybe 3 months ago after installing my suspension, and i went back the day after and had them redo it to perfection, and still does it, all my wheels are balances to 0.0 i made sure of that, because i watch when someone is working on my car, and i'm running -2.5 degrees of camber in the rear.
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    Re: new tires = weird feel

    are you referring to the steering response? If you are, then the issue you are experiencing can be easily explained. Suppose the tires are bald. There is essentially no "soft" rubber compound left, which has positive effects on steering response. On the other hand, new tires have lots of "soft" rubber compound on them. In this case, it's like driving on snow/ice tires with soft treads. It will generally improve as you wear the tires down. However, steering response also depends on the tire's characteristics. All-seasons for example tend to have worse steering response than summers.

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