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    650+hp Audi 90Q 4 Cylinder 20v

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    wasnt sure if i could post my project in here, but im going to try anyway. owned a 00 gti, dumped a bunch of loot to it last winter...built aeb head+034IIc+35r=useless in a few platform, at least for my taste. aside from the thing never hooking up when it was actually running right, avoiding the local cherry tops and trying to get an inspection in NYS (without the help of photoshop) were nearly impossible. sooooo....to fix all of said problems...i decided to build an audi, a 1990 90q20v audi to be exact.

    plans.
    awd block bored out to 83.5mm w/ 8.5:1 JE's
    aeg crank
    aeb head w/ cat 3652's
    supertech incolnel exhaust valves, new guides
    stock intake valves
    CAT adjustable cam gear
    SCAT rods
    Clutchmasters fx700 twin disc
    Stock 01A
    4:1 center dif mod
    audi v8q rear torsen swap(think lsd)
    Bosch 044 fuel pumps (maybe 2)
    96 lb/hr injectors
    aeromotive adjustable fpr
    homemade intake manifold
    SPA exhaust manifold
    gt35r sitting on it now, most likely will turn into a t3/t67 so i then have nothing bigger to buy that will fit on that SPA manifold
    custom downpipe, custom three in exhaust w/borla muffler
    034 Aluminum subframe bushings front and rear
    034 motorsport spec mounts all around the car
    034 Rear dif mount
    034 IIc sem
    Custom fabricated roll cage

    thats the 'plan'....but im sure everyone knows how those go. just figured id share this in here cause i wasnt sure where else to put it for people to see it. enjoy the pics.



    chopping the acessory bracket for the drivers side mount bracket to bolt to the block...(sourced from a b6 passat)



    custom mount for drivers side motor mount


    passenger side just needed to be modified a bit, but it didnt take as much as the drivers side did to get it to fit.



    spa manifold goodness....


    and yes, i cut the floor to run a downpipe....



    intake mani



    (not 100 percent dont yet)
    Last edited by zerb; 03-04-2013 at 10:20 AM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiA4_20T's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    wtf your not going to run the AAN beast?
    - Clint

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    Gone : Fastest B6 A4 ever - 464awhp/12.1@116

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Thats gonna be a fuckin cool project, but i thought the I-5 was more capable anyways
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    the aan beast has been more then proven in this platform. and i just figured that i was familiar with the 20v...and to the best of my knowledge i dont think anyone else has done this swap...which is one of my points in doing it.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Quote Originally Posted by zerb View Post
    wasnt sure if i could post my project in here, but im going to try anyway.
    I approve.

    Quote Originally Posted by zerb View Post
    lol @ quaker oats.


    badass build, can't wait to see the results.

    "Einstein: Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl
    is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. "
    because racecar.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings t1demont1's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Im interested in how you think your homemade intakemani will flow better. That plenum would probably work for a transverse motor, but wheres the TB gonna go?
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    smack dab in the middle of the plenum. sorta like this....




    if it doesnt turn out the way i want it to, ill buy one of issams beautiful units, but at this point, money needs to go elsewhere (motor, suspension, clutch)...and id rather make it myself at the moment.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings t1demont1's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    I can dig it
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    1999 2.0 hx35 dbw conversion

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    thats the idea at least...and with the b3 chasis, that cooland resivior is oriented a bit diffenently(i think, lol)...its been a while since its been in there so ill have to check that.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    wtf your not going to run the AAN beast?
    Nah Clint, he already has the uber built 20v in his MK4...

    Johnny, welcome to the world of traction my friend

    And just for the record guys, he's no noober

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Looks like a fun project Johnny.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    LOVE IT ZERB-next year we will run dutchess--err let me correct that you will and ill trail behind
    -vrt-

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    Veteran Member Four Rings t1demont1's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    I wish i lived in New England, all the BATs are up there lol
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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Thats how we DO!!! haha

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Nice project! I know man there are not very many BT/BAT Audi's down South. At least not around where I live.
    I do work around the South East on your 1.8t or 2.7t, PM for more info

    ** 2001 A4 TQM
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    This is a cool approach, quite liking the idea of a 1,8/2,0T I4.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    new england ftmftw
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    we should really set up a bat dyno day some where in the middle
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    thanks for all the kind words. i forgot to include that the car will have a semi-shaved bay and im going to pull the fenders as much as i can without going crazy so i can get some wider rubber under there too.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    this is uber sick

    subscribed!
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Nice intake mani!

    Mike, I have the same FPR :-)
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    This is a sweet build. Keep the updates coming.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    SPA mani is for sale for $350. im going to build a custom tubular for this venture.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Quote Originally Posted by zerb View Post
    SPA mani is for sale for $350. im going to build a custom tubular for this venture.
    If you end up needing a manifold I do have 2 Full-race manifolds here at my house.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    took a new approach to the intake manifold, and im liking this idea more.

    chopped the runners off the base plate...


    made a new base plate....


    chopped the bottom off of the d-plenum that i have...


    once the runners are welded onto the base plate, they will all get machined flat and then ill take a dremel and make then velocity stack-ish....






    and how the throttle body is going to work out too...

    wouldve had it all done tonight, until my aluminum dremel bit shattered, lol.




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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Well go to your nearest 24hr Walmart and get that ish done Johnny!

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    just fabbed up the exhaust manifold, enjoy.





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    Senior Member Three Rings silverman's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    So sick!
    great job man!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Looks good Johnny, but do yourself a favor and fab up a plate to seal off the passenger side front of the tranny opening... I didnt put mine in and ended up dropping a 3/8" drive rachet in there!!!

    Where'd you get your SCH10?

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Cool project. I had considered this myself. 5cyl are cool, but they're a bit out of their era now, and most of the cars are falling apart around them (at least around here). Why not update it with a 1.8T or even a 2.0T-FSI?

    What happened to the SPA manifold?



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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    ive got the spa mani sitting on the floor in my garage, trying to sell it.

    jake, i got all the sc10 through work, cause i can get everything @ napa, lol. vibrant performance is the manufacturer.

    and the reason behind a custom tubular was because i think at the power levels that i am shooting for, a tubular would out perform a cast piece. plus, it looks cool as hell and i just wanted to take a stab at making my own manifold.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 317ssayzarc's Avatar
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    How much did the whole thing cost you and where did you get your flanges? You may have to hook me up NAPA man!

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    flanges i got through work, the collector came pre-made too, just tacked together, but at least the hard part (making the thing) was already done. the head flange and all came from vibrant performance, which i think we unfortunately warped a bit while we were tacking all the runners up, but we'll fix that once all the runners are welded up. as far as a price, i get in touch with you tomorrow about it, i want to say it was somewhere in the 300 range though for the flanges/collector/butt weld pieces.

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    zerb u ass it is presurized and i got fuel everywhere lol o yea peoples gave me the wrong part number
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    i said it was pressurized, lol. but once the fuel is out of the lines thats there, thats all that'll come out. (as long as the cars off) and like i said man, a fuel pressure gauge in your bay aint gonna help you figure much out if youre dropping pressure at wot....gotta get some schit in the cabin.

    edit one:
    so if that fpr you gots dont fix the problem, and you want to get a fuel pressure gauge in there, get this...

    http://www.42draftdesigns.com/catego...ureadaptor.htm

    then get in touch with me and ill get you an autometer setup.

    edit two:
    better yet, now that i look at it, i can make that @ work with the fittings that we have. ill call you tomorrow once i see what i have.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    lol life sucks balls big hairy ones....hopefully vw has the part i need tomarrow so i can check i mean it should be this considering when i opne the gas cap i dont hear any presure releasing, so im thinking i have a crapped out spring thats letting fuel return before necessary-idfk wanna help with that vr i got to put in my wagon need to stop driving this pos
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    nah i bought a 3bar fpr- o wait it was dented to shit and fucking a 4 bar haha there dumabsses there i swear
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1fstavant View Post
    nah i bought a 3bar fpr- o wait it was dented to shit and fucking a 4 bar haha there dumabsses there i swear
    where did you order it? I though pretty much all places just modify a factory 4 bar FPR.
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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    this place that is like a vw junkyard...tried cheaping out so now a trip to the dealers in order
    -vrt-

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    Re: Not really a B5 A4, but its a B5 A4 motor...

    Quote Originally Posted by t1demont1 View Post
    I wish i lived in New England, all the BATs are up there lol
    haha
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