B7 with Eibach Pro + Koni FSD

[Bmeister]

I installed the Eibach Pros with the Koni FSD shocks and have ~250 miles on them today. Coming from the *stock suspension, the drop was almost 1.5" front and 1.25" rear although it might settle more over time. No alignment yet until it settles, but I'm tracking dead nuts straight ahead on the road.

The ride is VERY comfortable over even the most torturing ruts; instead of jarring the car, the Eibach/FSD soaked up the harshness with less noise and rebounding than stock. On good pavement in sharp turns, it rides on the proverbial rails. There is ~4.25" clearance underneath the car now and I've had not a single scrape/run in any of the steep approaches normally encountered.

Eibach Pro + Koni FSD are highly recommended for daily driving if you don't need the deeper drop of a coilover.

*NOTE: My stock suspension A4 never had the excessive roll in hard turns some people complain about regarding their stock suspension. My stock suspension actually handled quite well but I wanted it to be lower for aesthetics. I found out why it handled so well for stock; unbeknown to me, it already had an RS4 sway bar installed.

Took a quick shot tonight:

[autoverruckt]

Congrats. I was split between Koni sports and FSD's. I'm sure I would have been happy either way.

As for alignment, still get it done. It can go straight but you never know what the toe or camber might be.

Here is as example of what a car driving straight but with poor alignmnet might look like (my old S4, and now I am an alignment nazi especially with aftermarket suspension).

[Bmeister]

As for alignment, still get it done. It can go straight but you never know what the toe or camber might be.

Absolutely! I put ~300 miles total on after the install to ensure everything remained tight. It will sit for about one week to allow settling in before doing the scheduled alignment. A proper alignment for a vehicle's intended use has almost as much impact on handling as picking out tires and suspension parts.

[aspw]

Bmeister: thanks for posting your review of the setup. This really helps, I know everybody here recommends the stasis streetsport C/O, but I didn't want to spend the money not knowing if it's over kill for me. The setup you have here and your review provides me w/ another option.

Where did you get the Eibach Pros/Koni FSD shocks from?

How did you figure out you have the RS4 sway already installed? Bet that was a nice surprised!

[AudiWxGuy]

The suspension settles the second the shocks move up and down. If you call STaSIS and ask about settling, they will tell you can get the car aligned if you drive it down the alignment shop. If the alignment shop is in the same place the install was done, you can just take for a quick ride on the street and then have it done.

Long story short, you don't have to wait two weeks. Just have it done whenever.

[artinmoTTion]

Same setup here on our Avant, same results. Very happy with this setup, and for those who would prefer to set it and forget it, it's a perfect choice, look no further. That rear sway was an awesome bonus!

[europaisch]

I've been trying for weeks to track down the Eibach Pro-Kit for my Avant. I'm curious too where you bought your springs.

Car looks good. Thanks for the review!

[artinmoTTion]

http://www.shox.com/

They sometimes have a slightly better price for forum users, doesn't hurt to ask. I think the price has gone up a bit since I got ours. Guessing a dollar/euro thing.

There's certainly other places, these guys have a pretty good reputation though, and I certainly haven't had any problems with them.

[Bmeister]

I bought the Eibach Pro and Koni FSD from Tire Rack. There is no "kit" combining both at the present time that I could find although there surely used to be. The two items together, shipped to my office in Chicago came to $891 delivered and they had several still in stock. Figure $200-$300 if you pay someone to install them depending on who you know. I believe Tire Rack has a warehouse in Chicago because they delivered them the next day and I picked normal 3-5 day ground shipping.

As far as alignment, sure it can be done right away, but after a few hundred miles and a couple days, my car has settled a minor ~1/8" all the way around. I want to make sure that the alignment only needs to be done once and I'm sort of picky about these things; hence I watched for spring settling.

[Bryan]

U had sport suspension ?

[supamannn99]

http://www.modbargains.com/product.a...SD_B6B7_A4_KM3

pretty cheap

[autoverruckt]

Bmeister: thanks for posting your review of the setup. This really helps, I know everybody here recommends the stasis streetsport C/O, but I didn't want to spend the money not knowing if it's over kill for me. The setup you have here and your review provides me w/ another option.

Do you have an local installer? I know someone who does great work.

FYI I got springs from Tirerack, my Ksports from purems.com - great service from both.

[Bmeister]

U had sport suspension ?

No, standard non-sport suspension. Somewhere along the way before I bought the car the front and rear sway bars were upgraded....that's why my "stock" suspension performed so well. I just wanted it lower, and now I'm lower and picked up a more comfortable ride and additional handling as a bonus.

[ataylor]

Good review, and I think I'll be buying this combo instead of coilovers, as originally planned. If I'm going to be 'setting and forgetting' it, this seems to be the way to go, eh?

[artinmoTTion]

Absolutely, have had the same experiences here with this setup on our avant. You'll still get some mild scrapes with this on steep driveway crests and too tall speed bumps, but nothing enough to hesitate in recommending this.

I can't imagine being lower than this with a B7 in the real world (i.e. outside of the Southern California pavement jungle) especially if you're not planning on doing any extensive tracking or don't have a burning need to adjust the car for aesthetics instead of what suspension engineers consider optimal for the variety of real world uses.

[David2739]

I'm also very interested in this setup... I currently have the stock S-line suspension. Can sombody tell me the difference in 'feel' and ride height compared with the S-line. The thing I hate with the S-line is that the front is a little bit heigher than the rear.
I know there is gonna be a hugh difference with the FSD in combination with the RS4 rear sway bar, but is the difference also that big if I use S-line sport suspension with the RS4 rear swaybar
I drive an Avant B7 2.0TFSI S-line btw.

[casuso]

I'm also very interested in this setup... I currently have the stock S-line suspension. Can sombody tell me the difference in 'feel' and ride height compared with the S-line. The thing I hate with the S-line is that the front is a little bit heigher than the rear.
I know there is gonna be a hugh difference with the FSD in combination with the RS4 rear sway bar, but is the difference also that big if I use S-line sport suspension with the RS4 rear swaybar
I drive an Avant B7 2.0TFSI S-line btw.

Interested also in knowing how much will this combo lower a sport suspension.
Everybody compares always vs stock suspension, but I dont want to purchase something that is going to make my car just as it is now.

[rnp614]

From shox, the price is like 910. What is the advantage of Koni FSB + Eibach sport springs when you can get the koni coils for about the same price? 910 to 950 or so?

[Great White]

^ I'm curious too

[Bmeister]

I'm also very interested in this setup... I currently have the stock S-line suspension. Can sombody tell me the difference in 'feel' and ride height compared with the S-line

You'll be another (approx) half inch lower and have less of a jolt over rough spots than the S-line. I personally found the Audi sport suspension (S-line) a bit too harsh. Performance/handling I felt Eibachs/FSDs were better on rough roads and equal to S-line on smooth roads.

Also, for those asking why choose this combo over Koni coilover set, the difference is the Koni FSDs are special and expensive shock units rather than just regular Konis (i.e. Koni yellows); there is absolutely no adjustment needed...ever...they adjust for you automatically in reaction to the road/load. The Eibach/FSDs smooth the jolts and firm the sweepers; it offers simple, compliant, controlled performance for the street with no hassle.

If there are no plans for regular adjustments (i.e. monthly/weekly), why even bother with a cheap coilover system? If there is a need for regular adjustments, the $1000 coilover set is a poor choice weighing in the time/effort compared to coilover systems over $2000.

[rnp614]

You'll be another (approx) half inch lower and have less of a jolt over rough spots than the S-line. I personally found the Audi sport suspension (S-line) a bit too harsh. Performance/handling I felt Eibachs/FSDs were better on rough roads and equal to S-line on smooth roads.

Also, for those asking why choose this combo over Koni coilover set, the difference is the Koni FSDs are special and expensive shock units rather than just regular Konis (i.e. Koni yellows); there is absolutely no adjustment needed...ever...they adjust for you automatically in reaction to the road/load. The Eibach/FSDs smooth the jolts and firm the sweepers; it offers simple, compliant, controlled performance for the street with no hassle.

If there are no plans for regular adjustments (i.e. monthly/weekly), why even bother with a cheap coilover system? If there is a need for regular adjustments, the $1000 coilover set is a poor choice weighing in the time/effort compared to coilover systems over $2000.

The 1150 Koni Coilover uses the koni yellow? Hrmm...man you make an excellent point to go with the more simple setup.


So I'm looking at shox.com and it has the package of the Koni FSD + the Eibach Sport. Is this what you're recommending?

[Bmeister]

The 1150 Koni Coilover uses the koni yellow?

I don't know what specific shock they're using directly. I've heard that from a few different sources, and I've heard otherwise. Look at what Stasis is offering (B7A4Sport has them on his A4) too before you buy. Try to get a ride in a car that has the combo like I did and you'll know which way to go. It comes down to how deep a drop you want to go, too. Coilovers will let you go low enough to the point your scraping on dog poop and small speed bumps.

[artinmoTTion]

Bmeister and I are completely on the same page for the same reasons. Yes, it's the Koni FSD's that make the Pro-kit a good improvement over the stock S-line suspension, with just a little bit more of a drop. I remain very impressed with them under a variety of circumstances after a year, in a (so far) untracked car in all weather conditions, including mountain snow. My experience in ride comfort has been the same. Shox.com has the "pro-kit" FSD/Eibach combo, and other vendors.

[rnp614]

I do NOT want a low drop but would rather have something just slightly lower than the s-line suspension. You guys may have sold me on this kit.

[Spiff69]

This is great feedback - thanks everyone.

What about the H&R touring setup? Is that comparable to the eibach/koni and stasis touring setups? What other sub $1000 fixed setups are available?

[rnp614]

Those of you who used this setup, did you use any shock spacers or anything of the sort or just a FSD/Eibach kit straight up. I dont want my front sitting higher than my rear anymore!

[unh112]

hmmm i dont have that issue.

[Hyphy]

gratz

[rnp614]

hmmm i dont have that issue.

With the Koni FSD/Eibach or with stock sport? My issue is slight, but I'm extremely picky with some symmetry

[Hockenheim]

perfect drop, don't let the ricers tell you otherwise.

[unh112]

Koni FSD/Eibach..... I can't have it too low since I live in Boston. Like Hockenheim said before its perfect drop without looking rice......

[rnp614]

Excellent. EDIT: Ordered today.

[rnp614]

How do you guys like it as far as ride quality and handling ability? I'm going S-line to the FSD/Eibach + RS4 sway

[David2739]

Excellent. EDIT: Ordered today.

When you have your FSD/Eibach + RS4 swaybar installed please show some pictures and write a review... I have to wait until I bought my RNS-E and chipped my car. The next thing I want are the FSD/Eibach and R4 swaybar. Can't do everything at once :( my wife will kill me...

I have the Avant S-line

[BlowDro]

more pics please

[Bmeister]

Excellent. EDIT: Ordered today.

Congrats. Now those of us that steered you this way are hoping you are as pleased with the set-up as we are. Make sure your installer doesn't forget to tighten everything down, LOL, and wait a week before getting a 4-wheel laser alignment. You might be able to sell off your stock sport springs and shocks too. Please do a before & after ride (find a few stretches of road with good & bad pavement) and give us your feedback.

[mksap11]

Not quite Eibach on Koni FSDs, but I've been running an Eibach Pro-Kits on the older Koni Sports (Yellow) for the past 3.5 years. This is actually my second spring setup... My original one was a Koni/Koni setup which was awful.

[rnp614]

Whoa, that looks low...

Any problems with the rear bumping with heavy cargo and or 4 or 5 passengers in the car?

[vroompshert]

Not quite Eibach on Koni FSDs, but I've been running an Eibach Pro-Kits on the older Koni Sports (Yellow) for the past 3.5 years. This is actually my second spring setup... My original one was a Koni/Koni setup which was awful.

That drop is clean. What made you get the pro-kit vs other springs?

[rnp614]

That drop is clean. What made you get the pro-kit vs other springs?

Its what koni is advertising to use. Go to their website. If you want FSD/springs directly from them they'll be selling you Koni FSDs + Eibachs.