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    Established Member Two Rings einstrigger's Avatar
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    Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

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    I haven't posted too often on here, but I felt I needed to get this out, at least to other Audi owners in the Sacramento area. It's a little long winded, but if you want to skip everything, here's the gist:

    Niello Service Sucks

    Anyhow, I purchased my 2006 A4 at Niello and had a great experience, but my time with their service department has been absolutely horrible. After having my car for 15k miles, I noticed my left headlight had started to flicker and sometimes would not even turn on. After researching the problem, I found out there was a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) for the issue. According to the TSB, some of the headlight housing for the A4’s were faulty and had symptoms that ranged from flickering to not turning on. As such, if the determination was made to be a faulty housing unit, it would be covered under warranty. If it was the bulb, then it would not be covered, but the dealer needed to see the car to make the finding. So with the TSB in hand, I made an appointment with Niello’s service department to have them find a potential warranty covered issue.

    On the day of my appointment, the car was dropped off mid-morning and I was assigned Gary Phillips as the service advisor. He told me they needed to check out the issue to see if it was either the bulb or the housing unit. He also said that they could have it done by the end of the day. I explained to Gary that I wanted to know specifically what the problem was before any work was to be done.

    Well, they kept the car for 2 days before finally getting around to it! Throughout this time, I was never given any courtesy updates. Instead, I had to call periodically throughout the two days to find out what was going on. They eventually told me that the bulb was faulty and they could replace it for $300. Thanks, but no thanks, especially when I could buy two bulbs for half the cost and install it myself. I told them not to do anything and I would pick up the car.

    Here’s the worst part. When I picked up the car, I found out they simply switched bulbs from the left headlight to the right headlight to see if the problem repeated. At most, it was a 1 hour job, yet they had my car for two days and had the audacity to charge me $137?!? I didn’t know service departments charged money for looking at potential warranty issues, especially since Gary Phillips never initially mentioned there would be a “diagnosis” fee. Anyhow, he was really rude and obstinate about the fee. We argued for a good 15 minutes in front of other customers before he finally relented and waived it.

    I just wanted to say, I’ve owned an Acura, Lexus, and BMW, but I’ve never been treated as poorly as I have been with Niello’s Service department. While these other luxury makes look into potential warranty issues as a courtesy, Niello prefers to nickel and dime you for them. Again, thanks but no thanks. I’ll take my car elsewhere from now on and avoid Niello’s piss poor customer no-service attitude.

    And yes, I intend to post this to Google reviews and Audiworld as well.


    ***Update**** as of 11/4/2008 - So last week I sent a copy of the email to Audi USA. On 11/4/08, I received a call from Audi USA notifying me that they had received my email and would be forwarding it to the regional customer service manager and the service manager at the dealership itself. Within a couple hours I also received a call from Mitch Kudler, the service manager, who apologized for what happened and offered to "make things right". I explained there wasn't really anything to do, as I had already fixed the issue myself. In any case, he offered to pay for the bulbs I had purchased if I showed him the receipt.

    Needless to say, I'm slightly surprised that emailing Audi USA proved to be worthwhile and resulted in action being taken. I plan on taking up the service manager's offer and will meet with him next Monday to discuss the matter. I'll post another update in regards to the outcome. To be continued...
    Last edited by einstrigger; 11-04-2008 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Update

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    sorry to hear bro. But FUCK NIELLO!!!!!

    i have 3 beefs against them. 1 is when my PCV went out. i told them it was PCV. they said it was an oil cap. i was like wow. they had the car for 9 days to diagnose the problem. no big deal right? i got a loaner a3 so whatever.

    then i went to niello's body shop to do my s-line front end conversion. these guys are fuckin hacks. they didnt know what parts to order. they had my car for 3 WEEKS!!!. i had to drive to niello audi and get part numbers for them. how is it that they cant call audi themselves and do this? then after everything is said and done, my front bumper has drips near the sidemarker.....................

    last is i went there to check out the new s5. ill be graduating soon and thought what the hell? why not get myself in a little more debt. needless to say three salesmen standing around would not even acknowledge me. i had to go grab one. then he said they didnt have any so check back later. i drove in with my audi too so they should have known i wasnt some punk kid asking for a test drive. all i wanted was to see it and some info.

    i will NEVER go to Niello for ANYTHING. sorry for the long post but i really hate this dealership with a passion

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    Established Member Two Rings einstrigger's Avatar
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    You're lucky to get a loaner A3 from them. All i got for the 2 days was a lousy Dodge Caliber rental from Enterprise.

    Is there a Dealer Review forum around here somewhere? I searched and couldn't find anything. I think it would be really helpful to have reviews on dealerships in Cali and across the nation.
    Last edited by einstrigger; 10-30-2008 at 01:21 PM.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    That sucks. I've had no service issues at Niello and always gotten Audi loaners.
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Call Audi America and complain about your experience with that specific service advisor if you havent done so already. I didnt know they charge you for diagnosis of a potential problem while being under warranty. Diablo Audi in Concord doesnt charge for this. I hope you get everything worked out as far as your lights go.

    http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/C...ontact_Us.html

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    Established Member Two Rings einstrigger's Avatar
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Thanks for the suggestion. I might as well share my experience with Audi of America as well.

    As for the lights, I've since replaced them with MCulloh 5300k D1S. Cost me $145 for a pair shipped off eBay versus the $300 they were wanting to charge me for the single bulb, not even counting labor. Sheesh.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    fuck niello..they couldn't "do" my broken window regulator because of "missing parts"..this was under warranty too. on top of that i had to wait till 6 fucking PM for the service guy to DROP ME OFF back to davis..WTF i didn't even get a car

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    sorry to hear that and thanks for the heads up. rector audi in burlingame replaced my hid ballast when i experienced the flickering. i always make an appointment with hector but others say roger is good service advisor as well.

    good luck.
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Sorry to hear about your bad service at Niello. The times that I've been there, John Garcia has been really helpful. Took my car there for 60k service, and was there once when my rear passenger window regulator went out (CPO warranty repair). John helped me out both times, and even got me Audi loaners. If you don't like Niello, try Freddie at East County European in Brentwood or Livermore Audi.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    hmmm If you go back get John Garcia for a service advisor, he is awesome.

    I went in for service the other day, bad window regulator on passenger side, some noise coming from my overhead light area, and 45k mile service.
    They offered me a shuttle and I said that wouldn't do as I have apt.'s to keep, then they offered me a loaner. But repealed the offer after I told them I was 23 (insurance required loaners only to be given to ages 25+) so then they had enterprise pick me up in a brand new 09 quad cab Nissan frontier 4x4 that had 240 miles on it.

    Cant complain, from my experience. Ohhh, they vacuumed my car, washed it, and wiped down my leather seats and dash im not sure how this is possible or what they did but they did something and it has that Audi/Leather new car smell again! It still smells great after 3-4 days!

    They even did a full check on my car! They found out it needed a few maint. things and new brakes and included everything w/my free
    45k miles service. I didnt even ask them to look or check for some of the things they found.

    BEST PART! When I came back to the dealership I told them that since my warranty was up that I was thinking about getting a new car again, so while John was pulling up the paper work and getting my car pulled out he grabbed a sales guy for me and "pushed" me into a white A5 s-line 6spd manual. (not as fast as I would have hoped but x5 more comfortable and nimble then my 05
    a4, and really has me thinking about "swapping" out.) but grade A service.

    I'm sorry that you had shitty luck! Maybe it was a fluke and someones bad week?
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Sorry for your experience. I've had nothing but good experience with them. I've dealt with almost all their service guys and each one has been really helpful. I even got an invite to the Audi's Pound 4 Pound (though I couldn't get in the actual place due to alcohol being served and restaurant having some policy, but still good nonetheless.)

    Even better, my neighbor works there as a tech, so I hope to start asking him for advice once my car comes back from the frame shop in Dixon.
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    Established Member Two Rings einstrigger's Avatar
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    I've been to Niello twice. Once for my 15k service and the other for the head light issue. Both times I got Gary Phillips and both times the experience was terrible. The first time, he was just gruff and unpleasant. I felt that he considered me as just some punk kid (I look young even though I'm a year away from being 30 ). And the second time...well, you guys saw my first post.

    I used to take my car to Lasher when Ian was a service advisor there, but he has since left which is why I went to Niello (that and Niello is about 5 miles from where I live vs. Lasher all the way in Elk Grove).

    I'm sure people have had good experiences at Niello, but none of them seem to be with Gary Phillips from what I've read. Anyhow, there will not be a 3rd time or a strike 3 with Niello for me.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Man, Rector in burlingame is definitely the place to go for service. A lot of people on AZ go there and recommend different people. They're all good. I personally use George but I dont see a problem with anyone. I usually get an audi loaner but if they dont have one, they'll hook you up with a rental for free. I've never had to pay a dime for any of my warranty issues or rentals. Also, it's nice to go to a place where they make an effort to get to know you.
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    another for rector here.
    Black and Silver...thats it

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Quote Originally Posted by SeKKeY View Post
    fuck niello..they couldn't "do" my broken window regulator because of "missing parts"..this was under warranty too. on top of that i had to wait till 6 fucking PM for the service guy to DROP ME OFF back to davis..WTF i didn't even get a car

    that being said, livermore audi FTMFW
    i was going to ask about livermore audi, hehe... have to take my car there on monday for an oil leak...

    and to the original poster, sorry to hear about your bad experience...

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    I've never had any issues with Livermore Audi. So, you should be ok with them.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    2Bennett Audimotive in Davis did me right, and even worked with my carmax warranty on my B5 S4. They were fast efficient and never left me in the dark.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Update in original post.

    Cliff notes: Niello Service Manager called to apologize and is offering to pay for the bulbs I had bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstrigger View Post
    Update in original post.

    Cliff notes: Niello Service Manager called to apologize and is offering to pay for the bulbs I had bought.
    wow so all i took was contacting corporate huh? is that really the type of dealership u would want to deal with? fuck them

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    Established Member Two Rings einstrigger's Avatar
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Exactly. I will take up the service manager's offer on being reimbursed for the bulbs. As for ever taking my car back there, that's another matter entirely.

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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    the fact that the are attempting to right the situation I believe shows the quality and reputation that the dealership is trying to maintain. I believe that you have experienced problems from an out of control service consultant. When you meet with the supervisor ask if its audi thats paying for it or Neilo. $1 says its Neillo. As they paid for my rental car out of pocket.
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    Re: Nickel and dimed by Niello Service

    Quote Originally Posted by SportSter View Post
    the fact that the are attempting to right the situation I believe shows the quality and reputation that the dealership is trying to maintain. I believe that you have experienced problems from an out of control service consultant. When you meet with the supervisor ask if its audi thats paying for it or Neilo. $1 says its Neillo. As they paid for my rental car out of pocket.
    i agree with you on the the fact that they are trying to right the situation is a good thing. but should it really take an email to corporate just to get the treatment that you expect in the first place? what about the wasted time of having to go back to the dealership again?

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