S4 Back-up Camera...Any good installs

[Dodge2Dub]

Just looking for ideas as I really want this mod. I love it on our other car.

[Cyrix9445]

http://audiforum.us/installations/85...nto-b7-a4.html

Thats the only thread I've seen on the subject, good luck getting ahold of those parts tho :-(

[sakimano]

dude...go to that nav forum website. I can't remember what it is, but someone who reads my post will surely know. It's a forum where all they do is talk about their navigation systems. They're SOOOOOO technical and they know everything, so will be able to help you.

They all have rear view backup cameras hardwired into the TV jack that apparently exists on the Audi RNS-E navigation system. I went there to see about finding if the 2008 or 2009 navi DVD would be better than the 2007 one that came with my car, and after 20 minutes of reading their forums, my head was spinning!

[Dodge2Dub]

The link above directed me to that forum. I've searched it many times in the past, but never found a great solution. The solution mentioned above is exactly what I'm after, however the price is unreal!

[joeycuccaro]

dude...go to that nav forum website. I can't remember what it is, but someone who reads my post will surely know. It's a forum where all they do is talk about their navigation systems. They're SOOOOOO technical and they know everything, so will be able to help you.

They all have rear view backup cameras hardwired into the TV jack that apparently exists on the Audi RNS-E navigation system. I went there to see about finding if the 2008 or 2009 navi DVD would be better than the 2007 one that came with my car, and after 20 minutes of reading their forums, my head was spinning!

Its the same forum, they recently changed the name from navplus to audiforum

Any quote on the price of that install linked above?

[zachf88]

i wonder how much all the parts run....

[enigma1406]

That's really cool and a relatively simple install.

Prices from genuinevwaudiparts:

Audi
4L0 980 551 - Rear View Camera -$195.89
4L0 827 574 3F2 - Door handle - No Part Found I can maybe check ETKA when I get home...
4L0 980 553 - Camera retaining clip - $4.77
N 909 159 01 - Tapping Screw - $0.23

Prices directly from Kufatec

Kufatec
35542 - Wiring harness for IMA Audi RNS E "Basic" / "Basic-Plus" - from 29,00 EUR
35676 - Wiring IMA auto switch Rear View Cam Audi RNS-E - 2,99 EUR
35538 - IMA Integrated Multimedia Adapter mit Steuerung "Basic-Plus" - 189,00 EUR (ouch )
36136 - connection kit original rear view camera VAG to IMA - 39,00 EUR

Overall not too bad except for that one Kufatec adapter. I at least expected the camera to be semi expensive.

[Dodge2Dub]

That's really cool and a relatively simple install.

Prices from genuinevwaudiparts:

Audi
4L0 980 551 - Rear View Camera -$195.89
4L0 827 574 3F2 - Door handle - No Part Found I can maybe check ETKA when I get home...
4L0 980 553 - Camera retaining clip - $4.77
N 909 159 01 - Tapping Screw - $0.23

Prices directly from Kufatec

Kufatec
35542 - Wiring harness for IMA Audi RNS E "Basic" / "Basic-Plus" - from 29,00 EUR
35676 - Wiring IMA auto switch Rear View Cam Audi RNS-E - 2,99 EUR
35538 - IMA Integrated Multimedia Adapter mit Steuerung "Basic-Plus" - 189,00 EUR (ouch )
36136 - connection kit original rear view camera VAG to IMA - 39,00 EUR

Overall not too bad except for that one Kufatec adapter. I at least expected the camera to be semi expensive.

So, about $536 before the door handle is added on. Yikes!

[gaogi]

Interesting...looks like you can take the Kufatec 36136 adapter and solder a RCA connector to it and make the original Audi camera into a universal camera. This could be my next project!

[enigma1406]

Updated with new part number. It was 4L0 827 574 3FZ not 2.

Prices from genuinevwaudiparts:

Audi
$195.89 - 4L0 980 551 - Rear View Camera
$99.08 - 4L0 827 574 3FZ - Door handle
$4.77 - 4L0 980 553 - Camera retaining clip
$0.23 - N 909 159 01 - Tapping Screw

Prices directly from Kufatec

Kufatec
29.00 EUR - 35542 - Wiring harness for IMA Audi RNS E "Basic" / "Basic-Plus"
2.99 EUR - 35676 - Wiring IMA auto switch Rear View Cam Audi RNS-E
189.00 EUR - 35538 - IMA Integrated Multimedia Adapter mit Steuerung "Basic-Plus"
39.00 EUR - 36136 - connection kit original rear view camera VAG to IMA

Given today's exchange rate of $1.30 per euro, that comes to about $300 from Audi and $338 from Kufatec before shipping.

$638 plus shipping for a rear view camera...pretty steep but still a very cool mod.

[Cyrix9445]

anyone know if you can use the B7 handle on the B6? or if its too different to modify

[gaogi]

I don't think that handle is even the B7 part...it's a A6/Q7 part. I think they're all the same.

[Cyrix9445]

I don't think that handle is even the B7 part...it's a A6/Q7 part. I think they're all the same.

OH gotcha, the A4's never came wtih reverse cam

[enigma1406]

I don't think that handle is even the B7 part...it's a A6/Q7 part. I think they're all the same.

Yup it's an A6/Q7 part but I'm not sure about the B6. Maybe just drive by the dealership and see if they look close. They do love reusing parts, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same.

[zachf88]

wish I didn't have to buy the Kufatec unit to make it work...

[gaogi]

If you think about it, the Kufatec unit can actually be used for other video devices as well. So you're not buying the Kufatec unit for the back up cam alone, so it's actually not too bad.

[Dodge2Dub]

We can use the Kufatec with our iPods/iPhones or a DVD player fairly easily, correct? Basically, this will give us a back-up camera, video player and iPod connection via one install.

[Cyrix9445]

not a bad setup, i already have a multimedia adapter, not the kufatec IMA, and it works alright, but how would you have the backup camera AND a dvd player hooked up?

[Cyrix9445]

not a bad setup, i already have a multimedia adapter, not the kufatec IMA, and it works alright, but how would you have the backup camera AND a dvd player hooked up?

OH nevermind, it supports 2 devices lol durrrr

[enigma1406]

One thing to note, the euro RNS-E is slightly different from the US RNS-E. The buttons are physically different and I believe there are a few software differences. Not sure if you need a hacked euro software version (like how many of the for sale units are) or if the US version would be fine. Someone needs to try it!

[Cyrix9445]

i THINK in order to get the reverse cam to work, you have to use VAG-COM to code the RNS-E to lamborghini (since the US lambo's have the reverse cam) only draw back to that is that the startup screen is changed to the lambo one

[enigma1406]

That would make sense. Are you going to try it out?

[Cyrix9445]

i think im gonna go for it, i was wanting to pick up the kufatec IMA anyways (much for feature rich then my current adapter)

[enigma1406]

Nice. Do let us know how it goes. A write up would be nice.

I might do this as well, but it won't be for a while. I need to get my car back first...at least a month out.

[PenguiN]

i think im gonna do this too! I have hit my bumper on numerous occassions!

[AvanTTix]

i was looking at the pricing on these parts too and shipping from Kufatec to the US is 59.00Euro via FedEx...

[AvanTTix]

i THINK in order to get the reverse cam to work, you have to use VAG-COM to code the RNS-E to lamborghini (since the US lambo's have the reverse cam) only draw back to that is that the startup screen is changed to the lambo one

that plus the fact that SAT Tuner capabilities are lost once it's coded to Lamborghini.

here's another somewhat informative thread on back-up camera from Nav-plus/Audi-forum

[enigma1406]

that plus the fact that SAT Tuner capabilities are lost once it's coded to Lamborghini.

What do you mean by that? Satellite radio goes byebye?

[PenguiN]

this is very worth it since as we speak my car is getting ready to go to the shop to get the back bumper refinished thanks to backing up into a pole. I would want this for sure. It doesn't seem like the writeup is detailed enough.

[Putz]

I did this install and write-up. I can confirm that you DONT need the RNS-E coded to Lambo mode.

[AvanTTix]

What do you mean by that? Satellite radio goes byebye?

according to the info posted on AudiNav, SAT radio no longer works and i believe the reason might be that the Lambo coding does not offer that option.

[AvanTTix]

I did this install and write-up. I can confirm that you DONT need the RNS-E coded to Lambo mode.

that's b/c your RNS-E uses European software which enables rear-view camera, while the NA software doesn't yet offer that option.

[Putz]

Lambo coding does remove the SAT radio. Lambo coding isnt required for the reverse camera install though.

[enigma1406]

Lambo coding does remove the SAT radio. Lambo coding isnt required for the reverse camera install though.

We're saying that either Lambo coding OR Euro SW is needed. You have Euro SW, so no need for Lambo coding. That's mostly a guess, but for other reasons (TV I believe) people in the US use a hacked Euro version to get it working.

[Putz]

I thought US 0200 S/W allowed the camera option? I know the latest version doesnt as that removed the TV option but I thought 0200 still allowed it?

[enigma1406]

It's possible...I might be going off of old/new information. I haven't been over to navplus/audiforum in a long time. Either way, I hope someone here tries it out soon enough.

[AvanTTix]

I thought US 0200 S/W allowed the camera option? I know the latest version doesnt as that removed the TV option but I thought 0200 still allowed it?

it allows it but it doesn't switch automatically to the TV when engaging the rear gear when coded for the B6/B7.

[PenguiN]

So only one person has a backup camera right now? i would think more people would do this since its such a nice setup?! What changes in Lambo mode other than being able to use backup camera? Just the Logo?

[Cyrix9445]

looks like the only disadvantage of the lambo mode is the loss of sat radio and the lambo startup screen, doesnt bother me much, esp since i dont even subscribe to XM