another cracked manifold

[aaronamerica]

I have the atp high flow eliminator manifold and this will be the second cracked mainfold, have any of you guys ever just went back to the stock manifold??? I know this sounds crazy but these manifolds just dont hold up, any thoughts??

[Poopie]

go back to stock. i've seen more then 10 of these crack. first design, and the new design.

[maxspeed]

i never understood why people would by an eliminator, manifold, and test pipe, thats everything the full kit would replace anyway, with better fitment and parts

[Poopie]

i never understood why people would by an eliminator, manifold, and test pipe, thats everything the full kit would replace anyway, with better fitment and parts

if you buy a full atp kit, definitely not better fitment and not better parts. their t3 manifolds are good though. Just get a custom down pipe made. you would be surprised that they would probably end up slightly cheaper then an atp pipe.

[aaronamerica]

yea I'm going to put my stock manifold back on, but will I lose a lot of power by doing this???

[mike-2ptzero]

i never understood why people would by an eliminator, manifold, and test pipe, thats everything the full kit would replace anyway, with better fitment and parts

LOL, I am going to guess you have never owned a ATP full kit. People also buy the Elim because they can make the engine bay look 100% stock which is something you could never do with the full kits. The main down side of the elim has been the fact that the high flow manifold cracks.

[kovalevandrew]

I'm going to assume these are cast manifolds... I have a tubular one that was made by some local guys handy with a MIG welder... Or is it TIG, i forget. About 3 times the price of a cast one, but definately worth it.

Either way, EGT's are down, their cat delete racepipe works pretty well too. Spoolup is much earlier, and it now holds the boost more reliably.

[mike-2ptzero]

Tube manifold for a Elim and stock K03/K04?

[kovalevandrew]

Rebuilt K03 by some local nutters, spools up with furious anger she does. All i know is they ground down some other compressor wheel and shoved it in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOLXw5qmqfE

Was earlier tonight. Still not running 100%, but getting there.

[aaronamerica]

so what do you guys think, will I lose alot hp going back to the stock manifold?

[Poopie]

you might lose a few. Port and smooth out the stocker and you'll be golden. I made 300whp on the stock manifold on my elim

[AudiRacerS4]

no one can made a high flow manifold that doesnt crack...

[Kyle H]

Rebuilt K03 by some local nutters, spools up with furious anger she does. All i know is they ground down some other compressor wheel and shoved it in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOLXw5qmqfE

Was earlier tonight. Still not running 100%, but getting there.

I had to watch that a couple times to ralize that your speedo is in km/h not mph. I was shocked to see a 20-80 that fast in second gear!

[creechsa4]

i'm still going strong on my atp high flow elim manifold. i made a stout welded bracket that attaches to the head. maybe later i can 3 point or whatever if i have the time to weld up some more support braces. i'll try to take pix when i have time.

[Don Supreme]

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[mike-2ptzero]

Haven't the full ATP manifolds been known to crack too?

[AudiRacerS4]

Haven't the full ATP manifolds been known to crack too?

yes and the bolts always back out of the manifold...it seems to me that every manifold they make for our cars cracks whether its cast or tubular cracks

[biketsai]

Aaron, I have an extra stock manifold if you are interested.

[pac1085]

Haven't the full ATP manifolds been known to crack too?

I've had mine for 2.5 years with no problems, my turbo is really heavy too.

[slayerrule]

where did it crack?

[bassed]

where did it crack?

I'd pressume the same place as the 034 just as AudiS4racers just did, considering the ATP and 034 cast piece is the same.

[slayerrule]

i personally never experienced with welding cast iron. but i heard that its possible to repair it with Certanium 889. bring the manifold to local metal/iron shop. they might be able to do it for few bucks, i think its worth a shot.

[mike-2ptzero]

Even if you drill out the end of the cracks before welding there is still a big chance that it will crack again. Plus welding cast just never seems to last very long.

[slayerrule]

buddy of mine had his wg flange welded to his cast iron manifold locally and it hold up fine for 2 years until he swapped his setup. my cast iron manifold that i got from pagparts got welded external wg. hopefully its gonna last

[aaronamerica]

Aaron, I have an extra stock manifold if you are interested.

thanks, I found my old one but still not sure if Im going to put it on or just buy another highlow manifold along with a t3t4 set up

[aaronamerica]

where did it crack?

it cracked in two spots on the top right by the block for the bolts, my last one did the samething

[aaronamerica]

i personally never experienced with welding cast iron. but i heard that its possible to repair it with Certanium 889. bring the manifold to local metal/iron shop. they might be able to do it for few bucks, i think its worth a shot.

this sounds good I will find a welder here and see what they can do about it

[biketsai]

this sounds good I will find a welder here and see what they can do about it

The guy at Stett (right by Carsons shop) can do that welding if you want it there.

[sean1.8t]

Haven't the full ATP manifolds been known to crack too?

i have not ever heard of their log t25 or t3 manifold crack.

mine has been on for over 30,000 miles with no problems.

yes and the bolts always back out of the manifold...it seems to me that every manifold they make for our cars cracks whether its cast or tubular cracks

where are you getting your info?

[UN-PIMP-Z-A4]

LOL, I am going to guess you have never owned a ATP full kit. People also buy the Elim because they can make the engine bay look 100% stock which is something you could never do with the full kits. The main down side of the elim has been the fact that the high flow manifold cracks.

i have a PES manifold and i pop my hood for anyone (that doesnt own a Vag car) Because with the bottom mount manifold no one can tell you have a BT.

[AudiRacerS4]

i have not ever heard of their log t25 or t3 manifold crack.

mine has been on for over 30,000 miles with no problems.



where are you getting your info?

I had one and the bolts always backed out of the block So have many other people its a common problem with the ATP manifold

[mike-2ptzero]

i have not ever heard of their log t25 or t3 manifold crack.

mine has been on for over 30,000 miles with no problems.



where are you getting your info?

Come on sean, it isn't very hard to do a google of "Cracked ATP manifolds" to get an answer on that one.

[sean1.8t]

Come on sean, it isn't very hard to do a google of "Cracked ATP manifolds" to get an answer on that one.

i don't have enough time to weed through all of that.

but on the first page i didn't see anything.

there is a difference between backing out bolts and a crack in the manifold

[ModifiedA4]

found this pic on google:

[mike-2ptzero]

i don't have enough time to weed through all of that.

but on the first page i didn't see anything.

there is a difference between backing out bolts and a crack in the manifold

Thats odd. First couple that came up for me were of a guy on Elitedubs and Vortex. One running a T3/T04 on a ATP log and the other a full GT28rs on the same manifold.

[sean1.8t]

found this pic on google:

that's the eliminator manifold.

we're looking for evidence of a LOG style manifold that has cracked (t25/t3 flange).

i saw one post that had a guy claiming his cracked in the WG flange. but do not see anything else.

i guess one out of 1000+ isn't so bad

[aaronamerica]

found this pic on google:

thats exactly where mine is cracked