stage 3- question?

[AlexsB5S4]

i'm doing ko4's and i was wondering if i would be able to still run my old giac chip from my ko3's? if i can what would i need to do so? or if can't who makes a stage3- tune and where could i get it?

[S-Power]

Yah, that giac chip will support stage 3-

[AlexsB5S4]

do i have to run a mbc or anything?

[///M3 TO S4]

i'm doing ko4's and i was wondering if i would be able to still run my old giac chip from my ko3's? if i can what would i need to do so? or if can't who makes a stage3- tune and where could i get it?

dude, seriously..... please quit these same noob thread every day...use the search button. You can find 50 topics on this without much effort.

[blmlozz]

'm doing ko4's and i was wondering if i would be able to still run my old giac chip from my ko3's? if i can what would i need to do so? or if can't who makes a stage3- tune and where could i get it?

dude, seriously..... please quit these same noob thread every day...use the search button. You can find 50 topics on this without much effort.

liiiike.
this thread for example

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...stage+III+mods

I've been on one since late November. Throttle cut in almost every gear, O2 readings as low as .79V under WOT. The car feels like I'm towing an aircraft carrier off my rear bumper.

I've been careful about going WOT due to the O2 readings. Definitely, do not try to keep the car on a stock tune with K04s.

You can but you're just not going to feel any noticeable gains

[S4_NE]

i'm doing ko4's and i was wondering if i would be able to still run my old giac chip from my ko3's? if i can what would i need to do so? or if can't who makes a stage3- tune and where could i get it?

It will run your k04's fine, just go full stg 3 after K04's and enjoy the power, or run the K03 x chip and teh Ko4's will work but you will not get teh power out of them that thay ar ecapable of producing, are you K03's blown ?

[ThirdStrike]

you cant run k04's on stock fueling without using the audizine search button first ...you will blow your car up.
/thread

[updaboost]

contact Jeremy at Matrix Integrated...

[laxman851]

dude, seriously..... please quit these same noob thread every day...use the search button. You can find 50 topics on this without much effort.

What a dick, I bet you drive a black S4 with OZ SL's dont yoU?

[Nogaro s4 914]

contact giac they sell a actual stage 3- chip for your setup, order a nuespeed fule pressure regulator and call it a day they both help with gains, why would u want to run k03 software on ko4s you won't get the full potential out of the bigger turbos

[///M3 TO S4]

What a dick, I bet you drive a black S4 with OZ SL's dont yoU?

lololololollol.....I know where you live....i'll key your shit! And then not help you ever work on your car again! Then Break some little trinket next time i'm at your place on the way out to show my disdain for you

[jeremy@matrix]

Thx updaboost.

If your ECU is Flashed with GIAC, it's a $200 upgrade (not incl labor) to Flash the ECU with GIAC stg3- software. You'll also need a genuine Bosch Motorsport 5bar FPR (we have them here). Use these with your stock Hitachi MAF and stock inj's and power (with good DPs/exhaust) will be about 400bhp.

LMK if we can help at all.

[Reaxion]

Sorry to get a bit off of the topic, but since were on the topic of Stage 3- setups, over on AW I heard people entertaining the idea of being able to run a Stage 3- on RS6 turbo's, even that someone has that setup on their car, can anyone elaborate or have any experience with that?

[4RingsCircus]

Sorry to get a bit off of the topic, but since were on the topic of Stage 3- setups, over on AW I heard people entertaining the idea of being able to run a Stage 3- on RS6 turbo's, even that someone has that setup on their car, can anyone elaborate or have any experience with that?

I'm not a tuner. That being said, K04s on 5bar FPR is doable. RS6 K04s require at the minimum (VAST version) welding to down pipes. This means you REALLY should get piggies or larger down pipes in plae for the install. If the tune even works with stock and 5 bar, you likely won't be able to get enough fuel above 6000 RPM to run anything like full boost.

K04s onset boost later than stock, RS6 K04s are later still, and will no even remotely breathe well with stock intake plumbing.

Basically, yes, but don't is the answer. Even K04s on stock is a small stretch that can go bad without poper supporting mods, or if the tune is too aggressive.

[sti4now]

how much whp are K04's good for with AWE fuel kit and APR chip?

[jeremy@matrix]

how much whp are K04's good for with AWE fuel kit and APR chip?

WHP means little as all dynos read differently.

AWE RSK04 kit with AWE/GIAC software;



http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/info...cfm?content=28

[///M3 TO S4]

how much whp are K04's good for with AWE fuel kit and APR chip?

that makes no sense.....and search, it depends on your set-up

[laxman851]

that makes no sense.....and search, it depends on your set-up

Shut the hell up, damn i'm going to burn your hou.... wait I like your roommate, i'll steal your car since yours runs well and mine... damn it!

[CruzS4]

you guys need marriage counseling...

[Das General]

I made 310whp with k04's on giac X (stage 1 toon).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknqz526ty8

[hyperlight944]

i made 368whp and 398wtq on k04''s with the stage 3 minus tune so from what the guy above me said ...it seams you will be losing alot of power .....

[laxman851]

I made ~274whp and ~319wtq on a very cold day on a DYNOmite dyno on my GIAC chip only.

[AlexsB5S4]

thank you for those who actually answered me i will be going full stage 3 eventually but the funds are short now so i can't afford it, i did blow my ko3 so i figured i will go ko4's and then do fueling right now. i bought a 5 bar fpr, and mbc cause from what i saw when i was SEARCHING i figured i was going to need it. i'm just not to sure how to run the mbc cause all the diagrams confuse me.
heres a picture of the exhaust side on my drivers side turbo

[AlexsB5S4]

oh yeah contacted GIAC they said it was going to be 695 for stage 3- software cause my ecu was socketed instead of flashed

[jeremy@matrix]

oh yeah contacted GIAC they said it was going to be 695 for stage 3- software cause my ecu was socketed instead of flashed

GIAC Stg3- software is $795. If you have GIAC K03 software now, you can trade it in($595 value), so $200. But, if you're socketed now, it'll be $100 labor to go from socket to Flash. So, $200 + $100 = $300.

[AlexsB5S4]

see when i called they just said it would cost that nothing about tradin or anything

[jeremy@matrix]

see when i called they just said it would cost that nothing about tradin or anything

Then you might want to clarify all of what you have going on. 2.7T ECU's are only Flashed now--not socketed. Any ECU's that are socketed and go to GIAC have to be upgraded to Flash--there is no other way around it.

[AlexsB5S4]

do I need to run a 5 bar fpr with the ko3

[Das General]

with stage 3-, yes. not on k03's

you can't run stage 3- on k03's

[jeremy@matrix]

with stage 3-, yes. not on k03's

you can't run stage 3- on k03's

Correct.

Stg3- is K04's, Hitachi MAF, Bosch Motorsport 5bar FPR, GIAC stg3- software

With both K03's and stg3 (K04's, Hitachi MAF, GIAC/AWE stg3 software) you run a standard Bosch 4bar FPR.

[Das General]

Si.

[AlexsB5S4]

I meant do I need a 5 bar on ko4s and giac ko3 software

[jeremy@matrix]

I meant do I need a 5 bar on ko4s and giac ko3 software

Please look again at what I posted. We only run one of two power levels; stg3- or stg3. We DO NOT run K04's on K03 programming. That's why K04 programming (stg3- or stg3) exists.

[AlexsB5S4]

I can't afford the software yet that's why I'm asking that question have to wait till next month for software but I need my car back asap

[Das General]

You only need the fpr if you switch your software to a stage 3- code.

You can run the stock fpr and basic giac code on k04's. You may want to do some logging to make sure you don't lean out too much.

[jeremy@matrix]

I can't afford the software yet that's why I'm asking that question have to wait till next month for software but I need my car back asap

There are some concerns with running K04's yet not K04 software (lean, overboosting, etc). We strongly believe that setups are designed to work together with all of the parts, not just some of the parts.

Of course, it's your ultimate decision. I'd just hate to see you damage something else and then really be up that certain creek.