New numbers to shoot for...

[F16HTON]

Jordan Marrou

367/343

Superflow Autodyne

[A4 TSCHUSS]

2 liter
GT2871r
Cat Cams (3651)
100 octane
boost unknown

BTW, this is CO AVANT for the people that dont know who Jordan is by name.

[dirtybrd]

Not bad, much better then before.

[4Rings3Liters]

Very respectable numbers. Is that your setup that A4 TSCHUSS posted?

[dirtybrd]

No, Jordans, the guy whos numbers Greg just posted.

[GTMRS4]

I can't remember - what elevation is that at?

[actlsub9]

Uncorrected?

[7speed]

honestly depending on the boost level and wether or w/m was used. Building your engine to 2.0 specs is impratical. A $3000.00 build for an extra 30whp

[sean1.8t]

honestly depending on the boost level and wether or w/m was used. Building your engine to 2.0 specs is impratical. A $3000.00 build for an extra 30whp

first of all. it doesn't cost $3000.

and second, you don't build a 2.0l for more peak power.

[sean1.8t]

Uncorrected?

haha, no way in hell!

btw, great job jordan!!

[Silence]

great numbers no doubt, but im sure thats corrected, so i wouldn't crown jordan just yet. what diid he dyno in norcal?

[7speed]

first of all. it doesn't cost $3000.

and second, you don't build a 2.0l for more peak power.

Okay well they cost alot more to build, but why else build a 2.0 if not for more power ?

Oh and big ups to Jordan for the great #'s

[sean1.8t]

so i wouldn't crown jordan just yet.

why not?

don't punish us just because of the high elevation. they are "corrected" numbers for a reason

[actlsub9]

but why else build a 2.0 if not for more power ?

he said peak power, not power.

[sean1.8t]

Okay well cost alot more to build, but why else build a 2.0 if not for more power ?

Oh and big ups to Jordan for the great #'s

you build it to shift the powerband to a more desireable spot. also to add more power under the curve

you guys wouldn't understand this down at sea level.

my 28rs at my 4300+ft spools similarly to a 3076r does at sea level.

it's sad. i would not go larger than a 28 series turbo without more displacement.

which is exactly what jordan did

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Those numbers are CORRECTED, not what he actually made.

[7speed]

okay more useable power

[mike-2ptzero]

Those numbers are CORRECTED, not what he actually made.

Correct. My guess is that the dyno added around 18-21%, which would put him around 300 or just under. Cant really use corrected numbers without knowing how bad you are pushing the turbo out of its effiency map.


Correct FTL.


Now we just have to wait and see what he puts down on the dynojet.

[sean1.8t]

^please stay out of threads about jordans dyno's mike. you've spoken your peace about it MANY MANY times. just leave it at that please

Those numbers are CORRECTED, what he would have actually made.

fixed

[mike-2ptzero]

^please stay out of threads about jordans dyno's mike. you've spoken your peace about it MANY MANY times. just leave it at that please



fixed

Wake up, even jordan says he only uses uncorrected numbers now since he doesn't live in the perfect condition at sea level, but then not many people do. The dyno he ran on this morning would only give him corrected readings.

I am just like anyone else here that wants to know what he actual makes not what he "might" make.

[F16HTON]

great numbers no doubt, but im sure thats corrected, so i wouldn't crown jordan just yet. what diid he dyno in norcal?

He dyno'd 328WHP in NorCal but it was not under optimal conditions. I am sure DenverNoob will chime in soon but Jordan did make 50WHP more than he did on the same dyno.

Word on the street is that the Superflo dyno has about a 28% drivetrain loss since it is a large roller, eddy current dyno.

This puts Jordan right at 500BHP corrected.

If we can get Charlie to dyno his bone stock Avant, it will be possible to get a baseline to use for correction factors.

[mike-2ptzero]

Can the GT2871r even produce enough air to support 500bhp?

That 2.0 liter GTI from eurocode only made around 450bhp at sea level.

[dirtybrd]

Put that way, it does sound high.

[F16HTON]

Eliminator makes 450BHP on my car...

You guys should just be happy for him. There is a bunch of stuff about the B6 that does not make sense on paper.

[mike-2ptzero]

Greg no one is saying they are not happy for him. But corrected numbers aren't the way to show how much power the car is making.


You wouldn't use a correction for 1/4 mile times now would you?

[F16HTON]

Greg no one is saying they are not happy for him. But corrected numbers aren't the way to show how much power the car is making.


You wouldn't use a correction for 1/4 mile times now would you?

Why not? The NHRA does.

[dirtybrd]

Oh, I'm happy!

[F16HTON]

I bet you guys are going to be even happier now...

Since Jordan knew this would raise a bunch of controversy he went to a DynoJet today too...

Just got off the dyno

420WHP/406WTQ corrected...

This is the same dynojet that he used when the car was 1984cc with the GTRS, FWIW he gained 72WHP over that setup.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

so how to convert wheel to BHP?

[Don Supreme]

I bet you guys are going to be even happier now...

Since Jordan knew this would raise a bunch of controversy he went to a DynoJet today too...

Just got off the dyno

420WHP/406WTQ corrected...

This is the same dynojet that he used when the car was 1984cc with the GTRS, FWIW he gained 72WHP over that setup.

Time for some graphs...

[dougyfresh]

I bet you guys are going to be even happier now...

Since Jordan knew this would raise a bunch of controversy he went to a DynoJet today too...

Just got off the dyno

420WHP/406WTQ corrected...

This is the same dynojet that he used when the car was 1984cc with the GTRS, FWIW he gained 72WHP over that setup.

Yeah. I just got that text message. Congrats Jordan!


This is good news. This is exactly where I saw this component package going.

[F16HTON]

He will post up when he gets home tonight...

Maybe Ted (DenverNoob) will post his up to...it would be cool to see overlays...

[dirtybrd]

Crazy!

[vinny.dtw]

Wow that is solid.

[mike-2ptzero]

Why not? The NHRA does.

LOL, yeah like those "track elevation corrections" are ever used.

420WHP/406WTQ corrected...


Nice numbers. But still sounds a bit high seeing that the fully built 2 liter GTI with the exact same turbo could only muster up 400fwhp at sea level.

[F16HTON]

Over 350WHP uncorrected at 5,000+ feet

Jordan will post up all of the graphs and even the raw dyno files so you guys can dissect the shit out of them and tell him why his setup is all fucked up.

[dougyfresh]

Jordan will post up all of the graphs and even the raw dyno files so you guys can dissect the shit out of them and tell him why his setup is all fucked up.

Haha.

I'll start prepping the popcorn.

[mike-2ptzero]

Over 350WHP uncorrected at 5,000+ feet

Jordan will post up all of the graphs and even the raw dyno files so you guys can dissect the shit out of them and tell him why his setup is all fucked up.

Thats what I figured he would be making seeing that his correction would be right around 1.18-1.20 and a 6600 ft DA.

[sean1.8t]

fuck ya jordan!

your car is really making some power!

[DenverNoob]

numbers and plots will prob not be available until monday. we are waiting to have them emailed to us from the shop that dyno'd the cars. we will then have access to both corrected and uncorrected versions, as well as be able to overlay charts (not winpep, superflow has their own software).

more to come.

FWIW, Superflow is a FAR more conservative dyno as evidenced in this case. VERY expensive equipment for the tuning market as far as dynos are concerned. most of the other numbers on other vehicles we saw that day were well within what we anticipated them to be...nothing really far off the mark based on dynos like dynojet that people think blow things a bit out of proportion. Im sure given actual road environments with proper air flow provide a "real"number that lies somewhere in the middle.