So first time behind the wheel at the strip turned out to not be to bad should be in

[bassed]

12's but I suck at staging up at the tree. My 60's improved as dramatically as my launching by the 3rd run at Show N GO. 13.21 trapping 109.11 at 26psi, decided not to push 30 for my first time out and I need a built head so I can comfortably push past 7400 rpms (want 8500 all day).

13.21 at 26psi was the best with a 2.004 60', decided not to push 30 for my first time out.

[Poopie]

Solid improvement. You gotta get staging right . The more comfortable you are the better the lauches will get. next time call me and put me on speakerphone and i'll just tell you where to stop. haha.

[fernando]

12's but I suck at staging up at the tree. My 60's improved as dramatically as my launching by the 3rd run at Show N GO. 13.21 trapping 109.11 at 26psi, decided not to push 30 for my first time out and I need a built head so I can comfortably push past 7400 rpms (want 8500 all day).

13.21 at 26psi was the best with a 2.004 60', decided not to push 30 for my first time out.

not bad, just need to work on your reaction times and you will be ok

[bassed]

Solid improvement. You gotta get staging right . The more comfortable you are the better the lauches will get. next time call me and put me on speakerphone and i'll just tell you where to stop. haha.

Indeed, thanks for shooting the video. I damn well should in time be able to push down low in the 12's and maybe 11's at higher boost if I wasn't such a douche nozzle at the tree. Atco next Friday night looks needed. 3 runs over the time I sat there was crappy I want to get 8 runs in at least one night soon or maybe more:)

[fernando]

what setup are u running on ur car?

[F16HTON]

Cool, Mike Hood only managed a 11.18 @ 135, traction issues for him (bog)...1.84 60 foot.

[bernB5]

i would have thought you'd be trapping much higher on 26psi.. are you happy with the results?

[mike-2ptzero]

Your first run looks like my first run today, mine was 14 at 125 mph. LOL



Once you learn to just launch the piss out of the car you will get those times down.

[GetBoosted84]

Nice times. Once I get my wastegate issues curbed I will have to come to the track with you.

[djwimbo]

Sounded sweet as always.

I know you could do better though.

The first time I brought out my car on the K03 I kept running 15.1-15.3, until I learned how to launch it. It's an art form, even more so on a BAT car and no SEM.

[Militant-Grunt]

Not bad, really got to practice those launches though. Those traps are consistent with high 12s low 13s. No offense but with a turbo that size and 2.0 I was expecting quite a bit better times than that.

How much did you dyno in at the wheels and what tune are you using?

[1NaudiA4]

I'm running a HTA30r with a .82a/r on my 1.8 and I couldn't be happier. Full spool around 4000 and it pulled on my buddys 376whp FP Green Evo.

[Militant-Grunt]

I'm running a HTA30r with a .82a/r on my 1.8 and I couldn't be happier. Full spool around 4000 and it pulled on my buddys 376whp FP Green Evo.

How is the HTA turbo working out for you? I'm thinking about the HTA 35r for my future setup.

[Don Supreme]

I'm running a HTA30r with a .82a/r on my 1.8 and I couldn't be happier. Full spool around 4000 and it pulled on my buddys 376whp FP Green Evo.

So your car is back on the road?

we were ripping on my HTA 35r setup today........

[bassed]

Your first run looks like my first run today, mine was 14 at 125 mph. LOL



Once you learn to just launch the piss out of the car you will get those times down.

Indeed, my traps were 12.7-12.8 range and I should have been up even higher. Only ran 2nd to 7400 and 3rd to 6800-7000. I know I can do much much much better even at the same 26psi.

Nice times. Once I get my wastegate issues curbed I will have to come to the track with you.

Absolutley. I may try and go out to Atco on Friday if they are doing open testing that night.

Not bad, really got to practice those launches though. Those traps are consistent with high 12s low 13s. No offense but with a turbo that size and 2.0 I was expecting quite a bit better times than that.

How much did you dyno in at the wheels and what tune are you using?

Those traps were 12.7 all day range, but I suck. I put down 328/272 @ 18psi. I ran 26psi yesterday and was not using the RPM range to trap higher speeds at all. First time out is a learning curve that I know shortened quite a bit for the next time. Practive makes perfect.

[Don Supreme]

You are sleeping @ the line man... (doesn't affect your ET or TRAP, but looks bad *LoL*)

[slopoke]

12's but I suck at staging up at the tree. My 60's improved as dramatically as my launching by the 3rd run at Show N GO. 13.21 trapping 109.11 at 26psi, decided not to push 30 for my first time out and I need a built head so I can comfortably push past 7400 rpms (want 8500 all day).

So wheres the 12's? Was 13.21 the best or did i just missread your post?

[Don Supreme]

So wheres the 12's? Was 13.21 the best or did i just missread your post?

I think 13.21 was his best..

[mike-2ptzero]

So wheres the 12's? Was 13.21 the best or did i just missread your post?

13.21 was his best run, he said the car should run 12's with better 60 ft times seeing that 2.00 is still a very slow 60 ft for a BAT setup.


IIRC I ran mid 13's in his car when it was running 18psi into a nasty head wind and very hot temps at Waterfest.

[B5Burn]

Zzzzzz, the sleepy launch was funny, but good job man. It's weirdly intimidating your first time out, even if you have 'experience'. I think I read somewhere that like me, youhave autox/track time under your belt?

It's funny that seconds can seem like minutes... my crap times from last month were from very very very low boost. Can't wait to have that sorted for some real runs.

Anyway, good job, as long as you had fun! haha.

[Nor_Cal_Driver]

13.21 was his best run, he said the car should run 12's with better 60 ft times seeing that 2.00 is still a very slow 60 ft for a BAT setup.


IIRC I ran mid 13's in his car when it was running 18psi into a nasty head wind and very hot temps at Waterfest.

2.0 60ft is very slow imo, I did better with a flash and a stock clutch back in the day.

Nice looking and sounding car though, just learn the slip and launch that bish!

[slopoke]

Do have type of launch control/2step setup?

[mike-2ptzero]

Do have type of launch control/2step setup?

2 step is a huge waste of time. I was with a bunch of EVO's at the track this weekend and they all use the 2 step setup on their cars. Nearly all of them bog off the line while doing 6k+ launch with the 2step and if they do get off the line ok they usually only pull a high 1.7 to low 1.8.


LC/2step was designed to control wheel spin and for FWD cars.

2.0 60ft is very slow imo, I did better with a flash and a stock clutch back in the day.

Nice looking and sounding car though, just learn the slip and launch that bish!

Yes, but I wasn't looking to hurt anyones feelings. Even when I bog the car down to 3500 rpm during a launch I still pull 1.8's.

A K03/K04 is very easy to get 60 ft times under 2.0 because it doesn't take much rpm to launch the car. Whole different story when it comes to a BAT because if the driver is afraid to go wot and drop the clutch at 6k+ rpm the is just going to end up falling on its face and end up with a slow 60 ft time.


BTW Never ever slip the clutch on a AWD car unless the car bogs hard and you want to get the rpms back up.

[Don Supreme]

Don't listen to Mike...

2 step is a very very usefull tool....

I don't see 9 sec street cars launching without 2 step......... Those boggers, just need to raise the RPM limit.

[mike-2ptzero]

Don't listen to Mike...

2 step is a very very usefull tool....

I don't see 9 sec street cars launching without 2 step......... Those boggers, just need to raise the RPM limit.

LOL, does anyone here drive a 9 second car?


2 step isn't going to do crap for a 12 second awd turbo car since not enough traction is not the issue.


Yes dont listen to me seeing that I am the only one here pulling 1.5's without 2 step and the people that tried the WOT box couldn't do shit for 60 ft times.

[Don Supreme]

LOL, does anyone here drive a 9 second car?


2 step isn't going to do crap for a 12 second awd turbo car since not enough traction is not the issue.


Yes dont listen to me seeing that I am the only one here pulling 1.5's without 2 step and the people that tried the WOT box couldn't do shit for 60 ft times.

hmmmmm, how many Quattro cars have you seen run the WOT box? 1 or 2 so far.

You don't use 2 step and you talk about yout 1.5 60' foots, but why don't you talk about your 2.0 and 1.8 60's from this weekend and your previous trip to the track?

Its just a tool, stop hating.
I could use a vice grip to remove a 10mm nut, but I would prefer to use a 10mm wrench or socket with rachet. Are you going to hate on my 10mm wrench because you could do the job with some other universal tool?

For you to say that 2 step/launch control doesn't help racing consistency on all drivetrains is simply ridiculous..... You think 2 step is going to bog @ 6800 RPM --- HELL NO.

[mike-2ptzero]

hmmmmm, how many Quattro cars have you seen run the WOT box? 1 or 2 so far.

You don't use 2 step and you talk about yout 1.5 60' foots, but why don't you talk about your 2.0 and 1.8 60's from this weekend and your previous trip to the track?

Its just a tool, stop hating.
I could use a vice grip to remove a 10mm nut, but I would prefer to use a 10mm wrench or socket with rachet. Are you going to hate on my 10mm wrench because you could do the job with some other universal tool?

For you to say that 2 step/launch control doesn't help racing consistency on all drivetrains is simply ridiculous..... You think 2 step is going to bog @ 6800 RPM --- HELL NO.

LOL. Its called holding back so I dont get kicked out after just 1 run while racing at a big import drag event.

I launched easy to keep my ET's slow and to keep from breaking anything at a big event. Why the hell do you think I only ran 7.4-7.5 at 101-107 mph in the 1/8th and 12.2-12.5 at 80-85 mph during my qualifying runs?

Let me know when your running low 11's and 10's with stock driveline on your A4.


I made 1 hard launch which was in the 1.6's but all I did was spin the tires thru 1st gear and then the car cut off because I didn't have enough fuel in the tank.


The prep work on the track was a complete joke, one run it was like ice and the next run it was sticky. The RWD high hp cars in my class were all over the track most of the runs.

Who the hell said a 2 step isn't going to be consistant? Stop reading into shit that isn't posted. I said it wasn't going to make him pull great times. Yes he could be consistant but who wants to be doing 2.0+ consistant 60 ft times in an A4 when they are NOT a bracket racer?

Hating? LOL, maybe you should remove those nuts from your mouth once in a while.



BTW I have seen about 5 different EVO's running on the TV show Pass Time. Everyone of them were using 2 step and EVERY ONE of them bogged the launch. Now you figure that one out.

[slopoke]

You trap 107mph in the 1/8? That means low 10's high 9's @ 135ish in the 1/4 i wanna see a slip now!

[slopoke]

heres a slip from my buddies civic this weekend and he only traps 104mph inthe 1/8..

Pass 3 Break down
60' - 1.694
330 - 4.598
1/8 - 6.952 @ 104.54
1000 - 8.970
1/4 - 10.678 @ 131.34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQat5rArMs

[mike-2ptzero]

All of the guys that I knew at the track said the announcer said "damn he is moving" after my 1/8th mile time popped up on the board and then said oh he must have let off for some reason. All of them laughed because they know exactly why I lifted.

Here is the time slip of round 1 of elims, this was against a big single turbo Supra with a 9 plate carbon disk setup that he says cost about $7500.


I knew I wasn't going to win the Street Tuner class or even come close unless all the faster cars broke for some reason. Fastest 2 cars in our class were running low 9's which were the Easy Street Subby (which I was asked to pit with on sunday) and a twin GT3071r Nissan 300z with a 150 shot of nitrous and most likely launching with a trans brake.


BTW the time slips are on a Pro tree.

[mike-2ptzero]

107 in the 1/8th and 135 mph isn't going to be low 10s' and high 9's in an A4 because we are talking close to 3000 lbs not a 1800 lbs car.

[slopoke]

well if you cut your 60' down to a 1.5 you would probably be 10.5's... Reguardless 135trap is siqqq

[mike-2ptzero]

well if you cut your 60' down to a 1.5 you would probably be 10.5's... Reguardless 135trap is siqqq

Yes. I did that at sac to run 10.69 at 135 back when I had the stock doors on the car still. This isn't my first time running 106+ or 134+.

[Don Supreme]

LOL. Its called holding back so I dont get kicked out after just 1 run while racing at a big import drag event.

I launched easy to keep my ET's slow and to keep from breaking anything at a big event. Why the hell do you think I only ran 7.4-7.5 at 101-107 mph in the 1/8th and 12.2-12.5 at 80-85 mph during my qualifying runs?

Let me know when your running low 11's and 10's with stock driveline on your A4.


I made 1 hard launch which was in the 1.6's but all I did was spin the tires thru 1st gear and then the car cut off because I didn't have enough fuel in the tank.


The prep work on the track was a complete joke, one run it was like ice and the next run it was sticky. The RWD high hp cars in my class were all over the track most of the runs.

Who the hell said a 2 step isn't going to be consistant? Stop reading into shit that isn't posted. I said it wasn't going to make him pull great times. Yes he could be consistant but who wants to be doing 2.0+ consistant 60 ft times in an A4 when they are NOT a bracket racer?

Hating? LOL, maybe you should remove those nuts from your mouth once in a while.



BTW I have seen about 5 different EVO's running on the TV show Pass Time. Everyone of them were using 2 step and EVERY ONE of them bogged the launch. Now you figure that one out.

Obviously you are letting off up top, but I don't know about your supposed weak launch.... I think thats just how it worked out for you..... Its just convenient for you to claim otherwise now...

You keep bringing up this crap about evos bogging with 2 step.. For every bogged 2 step launch I can show you 10 proper 2 step launches.... Obviously, it requires tweaking... I can show you a 9 sec street car that BOGGED with 2 step... They go back and INCREASE the RPM and wammmmmm 1.4 60 foots ------- Wow a simple tweak. I guess you are mad because you think the box should automatically know the ideal RPM for your car to be launched at --

Nuts in my mouth huh..... You must be jealous that they are not your nuts... Sorry I am not impressed by your no airbag having, gutted, trailer queen........ I am just not impressed.

Now because you don't use 2 step, you think others shouldn't use it...... You need to get the hell over yourself.

P.S. As you know Martini, obviously not the best drag racer with a not so fast car, pulled 1.8 60' foots with 2 step.. For the first to the track -- thats not half bad... If Ian had pulled a 1.8 60' he would have made his 12 second pass.

[mike-2ptzero]

Obviously you are letting off up top, but I don't know about your supposed weak launch.... I think thats just how it worked out for you..... Its just convenient for you to claim otherwise now...

You keep bringing up this crap about evos bogging with 2 step.. For every bogged 2 step launch I can show you 10 proper 2 step launches.... Obviously, it requires tweaking... I can show you a 9 sec street car that BOGGED with 2 step... They go back and INCREASE the RPM and wammmmmm 1.4 60 foots ------- Wow a simple tweak. I guess you are mad because you think the box should automatically know the ideal RPM for your car to be launched at --

Nuts in my mouth huh..... You must be jealous that they are not your nuts... Sorry I am not impressed by your no airbag having, gutted, trailer queen........ I am just not impressed.


Now because you don't use 2 step, you think others shouldn't use it...... You need to get the hell over yourself.

P.S. As you know Martini, obviously not the best drag racer with a not so fast car, pulled 1.8 60' foots with 2 step.. For the first to the track -- thats not half bad... If Ian had pulled a 1.8 60' he would have made his 12 second pass.

LOL, who ever asked you if you were impressed or not? No one because no one cares so I dont know why your acting like someone does.


First off no NOOB drag racer is not going to show up to the drags and just start dicking around with a 2 step when all they want do is actual see what the car runs down the track. But you seem to be over looking that point. Ian ran what he ran so I dont know why you keep telling everyone they NEED to get a 2 step unless you have a stake in the product and aren't telling anyone, because every time someone posts up about racing or the product you seem to be telling one its the best thing since slice bread even though you dont have it in your own car.

Now show everyone here all of the Audi 1.8t quattro cars that are running it at the track. Oh wait the ones that have tried the product couldn't get the car out of the hole with the product to save their life.

My 60 fts were slow because I wasn't going WOT before releasing the clutch because I really didn't care what I pulled for 60 ft times seeing that I wasn't going to be running full runs anyway. The whole weekend I only made 1 hard launch which was my last run on saturday but all I ended up doing is spin all 4 tires. Funny thing is I actual have the data to back up all my runs unlike your made up 12.1 run.


My car still has an Airbag and isn't gutted. Just shows you how clueless you are even when it comes to a car that nearly every one knows about. What does my car being trailered have to do with anything? Even if my car was registered I still wouldn't drive it on the street because its not worth getting pulled over here in socal. So there is no reason for me to shell out money to have it registered and another insurance payment when I only drive on the weekends or when I need to run to the post office to ship something out.


yes Martini did pull 1.84 with the 2 step, but your leaving out the fact that on his next run he pulled a 1.9421 60 ft. Both runs ended with a 13.9 with a APR stage 3+. So yes his ET's were consistant but his 60 ft times were not.

He then went to the track again.
1st run = bogged
2nd run = 1.7XX
3rd run = 1.8

So again where is that so called consistant 60 ft times?

[1NaudiA4]

So your car is back on the road?

we were ripping on my HTA 35r setup today........

It was back on the road for about a week until the rear main oil seal started leaking... nothing major just a drip about every 5 seconds but none the less annoying. So I ripped out the motor again so I could put a new main seal on. roughed up the girdle a bit with some 400 grit sandpaper in hopes that it will seal better this time. I'm planning on putting the motor back in tomorrow.

I really hope I don't have to pull it out again. Though I am getting a lot faster at swapping the motor... I think I could do it with my eyes closed now.

The spool up is a lot better this time even with the lower compression pistons because I had a pretty bad leak between the mani and turbo that I got worked out. I also set up the timing really conservatively this time until I'm able to hop on a dyno. Its scary cause I had absolutely no idea the car was detonating before, I couldn't hear or feel a damn thing.

Hows the HTA35r treatin ya? did you go with a .63 or .82ar and hows the spool?

[Don Supreme]

LOL, who ever asked you if you were impressed or not? No one because no one cares so I dont know why your acting like someone does.


First off no NOOB drag racer is not going to show up to the drags and just start dicking around with a 2 step when all they want do is actual see what the car runs down the track. But you seem to be over looking that point. Ian ran what he ran so I dont know why you keep telling everyone they NEED to get a 2 step unless you have a stake in the product and aren't telling anyone, because every time someone posts up about racing or the product you seem to be telling one its the best thing since slice bread even though you dont have it in your own car.

Now show everyone here all of the Audi 1.8t quattro cars that are running it at the track. Oh wait the ones that have tried the product couldn't get the car out of the hole with the product to save their life.

My 60 fts were slow because I wasn't going WOT before releasing the clutch because I really didn't care what I pulled for 60 ft times seeing that I wasn't going to be running full runs anyway. The whole weekend I only made 1 hard launch which was my last run on saturday but all I ended up doing is spin all 4 tires. Funny thing is I actual have the data to back up all my runs unlike your made up 12.1 run.


My car still has an Airbag and isn't gutted. Just shows you how clueless you are even when it comes to a car that nearly every one knows about. What does my car being trailered have to do with anything? Even if my car was registered I still wouldn't drive it on the street because its not worth getting pulled over here in socal. So there is no reason for me to shell out money to have it registered and another insurance payment when I only drive on the weekends or when I need to run to the post office to ship something out.


yes Martini did pull 1.84 with the 2 step, but your leaving out the fact that on his next run he pulled a 1.9421 60 ft. Both runs ended with a 13.9 with a APR stage 3+. So yes his ET's were consistant but his 60 ft times were not.

He then went to the track again.
1st run = bogged
2nd run = 1.7XX
3rd run = 1.8

So again where is that so called consistant 60 ft times?

I have no stake in the product. I just simply refuse to let you talk shit about the people's product because you don't use it.

IMHO...... The WOTbox is the best new product for the VAG world in 2008.

[Don Supreme]

Hows the HTA35r treatin ya? did you go with a .63 or .82ar and hows the spool?

Its working GREAT! It works just as advertised. I have much more streetable torque starting around 3800 RPM or so (not fast power, just enough to pass cars and crap like that before the wastegate opens)..... ~15 psi @ around 4100+ in 4th gear.

[///M3 TO S4]

not bad, just need to work on your reaction times and you will be ok

reaction times mean NOTHING for test-and-tune.......they affect your time in no way at all

[mike-2ptzero]

I have no stake in the product. I just simply refuse to let you talk shit about the people's product because you don't use it.

IMHO...... The WOTbox is the best new product for the VAG world in 2008.

Is that why Martini's car ran like shit and couldn't produce any consistant 60 ft times?


How come all of the vids of it being used on a vw/audi are all done with the car sitting in someones driveway being revved up to make 3-5psi how does that prove the product actually helps in anyway?


It isn't like I dont have friends that use a 2 step to launch their cars, but I am saying that I have yet to see any good 60 ft times out from any of them running 11's and 12's. Even this weekend the evo's that were running all had to keep playing with their rpm setting for the 2 step just to keep from bogging every launch. Most drag racers use the 2 step so they can cut a much better reaction time since they are already pushing the throttle pedal to the floor. Even the guys that produce the WOT Box pretty much said the same thing.