Got a ride in a stg3 b5s4

[vtracer20]

OMG MY CAR is sloW!!!!!! i pick up my b5s4 rims today and he took me for a ride in his stage3 from awe. Man does this thing move. My car seems soo slow now after a quick ride. I ended up talking to him about his setup and maintence on his car...man finding a older s4 is really starting to make me want one now

[supamannn99]

yeah our a4's are slow as hell. i agree.

but they're quicker than 90% of the cars out there on the street

[AudiXS4X01]

^i wouldn't say 90%, that's a pretty high ratio..

[Sharkfin]

Don't get caught up with the number, you got the point of the comment didn't you? hyperbole....

[Auditude2.0T]

An A4 with supporting mods is a seriously quick car but a properly tuned Stage III S4 is very very very fast. A Properly Tuned Stage III+ S4 with Supporting mods is 99.9% of the time the fastest car on the road. I have seen Stage III S4's that lose to Stock RS4's and some that rip RS4's, so i guess theres a big variety between Stage III's as well.

[Vorsprung]

Yup there are the KO4'd S4's and then the GT28 S4's that are on a whole different level.

[LampyB]

I ended up talking to him about his setup and maintence on his car...

whatever it was he said about maintenance take into consideration that this car is a money pit. two of the shops near me said they hate the engine, it's a PITA and for the most part all work requires the entire engine being pulled. we're talking even to replace a Snub Mount. They're fast as hell and highly tuneable, but in the end make sure you've got big bucks for repairs and maintenance. I'm not so sure about being able to reliably use this car as a daily driver at Stage 3 as well....

the reason i moved into a B6 was because on my 1.8T B5 i had to put about $4000 into maintenance alone at 85K miles, all within 6 months of purchase!

[Entropy333]

I did a lot of thinking before I decided to buy a B7 A4 over a B5 S4. Yes, a Stg 3 S4 is ridicoulously fast, but the amount of money/maintainence to acquire that kind of speed is unreal. If it was me, I would pick up one that is already Stg 3, so I didn't have to drop the 10k+ to make it that fast.

~James

[Josh_877]

http://www.audizine.com/classifieds/...ct=2204&cat=30

[S-Power]

What are you guys talking about? The car is very reliable, it all depends on who you bought it off and how it was previously treated. Any car that has been beat wont be reliable. My s4 just passed 100k and the only things i did was T-belt and I just replaced my TBB because 18 psi on OEM part dont work well.

And it doesnt take 10k to make this car that fast, it takes about 5-7. To make your guys a4 even close to this cars speed will take 10k or more.

[Das General]

Snub mount doesn't require you to remove the engine. The only real engine removal process is due to bad turbos.

On another note, I have never seen a stage 3 s4 lose to an RS4. Back when I first had my s4 (chip/exhaust),I ran an RS4 that also had a chip and exhaust, and I was able to stay right there with him. You'd have to have a pretty shotty stage 3 tune to lose to an RS4.

Reliability wise, it is the luck of the draw, I suppose.

[AudiTechS4]

whatever it was he said about maintenance take into consideration that this car is a money pit. two of the shops near me said they hate the engine, it's a PITA and for the most part all work requires the entire engine being pulled. we're talking even to replace a Snub Mount. They're fast as hell and highly tuneable, but in the end make sure you've got big bucks for repairs and maintenance. I'm not so sure about being able to reliably use this car as a daily driver at Stage 3 as well....

the reason i moved into a B6 was because on my 1.8T B5 i had to put about $4000 into maintenance alone at 85K miles, all within 6 months of purchase!

Umm you can replace the snub mount with out pulling the engine , you can replace the heads, cams and a bunch of other shit without pulling the motor.

[audimeister]

My B7 A4 has just been sitting in the garage for two months since I got the B5 S4.

Stock B5 S4=chipped B7 A4. I just chipped the B5 with an entire ecu I got off the forums for $300. There are a lot of used parts out there for the S4 that are CHEAP. Picked up a Milltek exhaust for $500. Will be making piggies (gutting the precats) when I put it on.

So...for around $800 I'll be putting down 280-ish whp, and it was a car I bought with cash. As soon as I ditch the B7, I'll have no car payment. It would have to be a lot of maintenance to make up the difference.

It really is a whole different world of performance, even at stage 1.

[I495 Bandit]

What about doing and 2.7tt swap in our cars? Now that would be a vicious setup. I wonder if the 2.7t would fit. Anybody know cause you can buy a 2.7t engine and trans for less than the cost of a bt setup and have the potential to make twice the power.

[RedS-line]

the 2.0t is a fun car with basic mods, but it is NOT a fast car. I would have went the Infiniti route if i preferred performance over function. And if youre talking about serious power, then the wrx / evo is and always will be where its at. i think that some people on here that are seriously performance oriented would be better off with that route.

[EMAXX]

the 2.0t is a fun car with basic mods, but it is NOT a fast car. I would have went the Infiniti route if i preferred performance over function. And if youre talking about serious power, then the wrx / evo is and always will be where its at. i think that some people on here that are seriously performance oriented would be better off with that route.

Yeah. Thinking about it, I wish I would have gone a different route. The car is not really all the sporty...

[sixfiveoh]

the reason i moved into a B6 was because on my 1.8T B5 i had to put about $4000 into maintenance alone at 85K miles, all within 6 months of purchase!

That's strange that you went to a B6 then, considering it's almost the exact same car in a different body

[slimmj0k3r]

Yeah. Thinking about it, I wish I would have gone a different route. The car is not really all the sporty...

but they DO look good done right

[gpultro]

i beg to differ my dude on the evo and wrx it takes no talent getting those fast. as for serious power ill be there in 2 months so dont count the audi b7 a4 out at all...

ive been smoking sti's and evo's the only evo that beat me was a X with a gt35

go big or go home money is meant to be thrown away...lol

[Vorsprung]

What about doing and 2.7tt swap in our cars? Now that would be a vicious setup. I wonder if the 2.7t would fit. Anybody know cause you can buy a 2.7t engine and trans for less than the cost of a bt setup and have the potential to make twice the power.

I was thinkin the same thing the other day. I don't see why not.

[audimeister]

I was thinkin the same thing the other day. I don't see why not.

A buddy is a former Audi master tech and has been talking about doing one for his dd.

[S-Power]

If you do the swap, its going to be more of a boat then it already is, just a thought, although you will have the straight line performance

[Quattro]

I was on the same boat, after seeing that s4 with twin gt28rs....mannnnn I wanted one, but its not a really reliable car and that is what I want. Plus like some have said, its a huge money pit! AT LEAST 20k to make an s4 into a beast.

ill just wait for a bt, spend 5-6k and be happy. I love my b7 but really miss my old b5, but my b5 doesnt have all the baller things my b7 has.

-randy

[Das General]

I am shooting for 650whp on pump gas in my stage 3. = )

[RedS-line]

gpultro i wanna know what you got under the hood to be smokin evos and stis?

[S-Power]

I am shooting for 650whp on pump gas in my stage 3. = )

This is true, Hes not lieing, cant wait for it to be finished.

[EMAXX]

but they DO look good done right

I could care less about the looks compared to performance. I'd rather have performance over looks any day.

[S-Power]

but they DO look good done right

They do look good?

See for yourself son

[Overboostin]

whatever it was he said about maintenance take into consideration that this car is a money pit. two of the shops near me said they hate the engine, it's a PITA and for the most part all work requires the entire engine being pulled. we're talking even to replace a Snub Mount. They're fast as hell and highly tuneable, but in the end make sure you've got big bucks for repairs and maintenance. I'm not so sure about being able to reliably use this car as a daily driver at Stage 3 as well....

the reason i moved into a B6 was because on my 1.8T B5 i had to put about $4000 into maintenance alone at 85K miles, all within 6 months of purchase!

You just need to remove the radiator AT MOST to do the snub mount. You really only have to pull the bottom forward slightly. It's really not bad to work on the motor at all. And yes, I've pulled it before.

[Jung]

dude two fo those cars are a4s lol..
Seriously, they're not THAT unreliable. I've never been left stranded, and have only had one oil leak from a cam seal. The onyl thing that sucks are changing basic sensors like EGTs and 02s which go too often and are on the driver's side bitches to replace, plus are pretty expensive. with bad ones you suck mega dong at boosting.

And Deb38s setup si giong to be pretty BA. I'm def. planning on running it when it's all ready. much more whp than a k04 setup for only a little more, plus you could run a larger turbo as long as you have the correct oil lines and gaskets/bolts, without pulling the motor/front end. It's going to be a sick single setup

[gpultro]

gpultro i wanna know what you got under the hood to be smokin evos and stis?

GT3071R custom by ASP

[LampyB]

That's strange that you went to a B6 then, considering it's almost the exact same car in a different body

except it was three years newer, an USP, a 6spd, had 55K fewer miles, and had a warranty. all for $100 more per month, instead of dropping $4000 in six months.

couple more thoughts...yes when done right they can look amazing, but the car is still definitely dated. get an '01 and it's already almost 8 years old! and if i had the money, YES i would definitely have one but only if i had plenty of free cash flow to the point where i didn't really care about throwing it into the car. ;)

[AudiA4_20T]

i beg to differ my dude on the evo and wrx it takes no talent getting those fast. as for serious power ill be there in 2 months so dont count the audi b7 a4 out at all...

ive been smoking sti's and evo's the only evo that beat me was a X with a gt35

go big or go home money is meant to be thrown away...lol

what do you consider serious power?

[gpultro]

what do you consider serious power?

Well in 2 weeks ASP and I will hit the 350-370 awhp and tq on pump but after the build in about a month we are going to shoot fpr 450-500 awhp on pump. i am 320 320 now on pump

[vtracer20]

weak ;)...just playin, that would be good to have in my a4....i dought i need more than 320whp/trq.

[Sharkfin]

Well in 2 weeks ASP and I will hit the 350-370 awhp and tq on pump but after the build in about a month we are going to shoot fpr 450-500 awhp on pump. i am 320 320 now on pump

From 350-370 to 450-500, that's quite optimistic and a shit ton of power (if you can reach it)

[gpultro]

From 350-370 to 450-500, that's quite optimistic and a shit ton of power (if you can reach it)

It is actually not a lot of power my last car had more 1991 300zx twinturbo with 2 gt28rs 600rwhp. As for optimistic no not really i am only boosting 18 psi right now and going for about 30 with a properly built engine those numbers are easily obtainable.

Anything is in reach if you have the money for it...lol