Eibach Prokit and Koni Yellow

[deucescorner]

Do you guys have any feedback on Prokit and Koni Yellow setup? Heard that Koni Yellow are stiff even set a the softest setting. I'll matching them on 235/40/18 tires. I just wanna make sure that I won't lose too much comfort.

How does Koni Yellow match againts Koni FSD in terms of ride quality.

[FrankA6]

I have the FSD's and the car sits pretty low and rides just as good as stock if not better, its pretty amazing.

[deucescorner]

I have the FSD's and the car sits pretty low and rides just as good as stock if not better, its pretty amazing.

hey frank, ya i want FSD too but damn they're kinda pricey

[FrankA6]

well when i got mine like 6-7 months ago they were $950 , now they are like $1100...so thats kinda weird , but man they are so worth it. what wheels are you going with?

[m-avant]

I have FSDs on both my A6 and my GTI, and Koni yellows on my M3. The ability to adjust the rebound on the yellows work well if you plan on changing the settings. The FSDs are more of the "install it - and forget it" use. I have 20s on my Avant, and the FSDs still provide a smooth comfortable, controlled ride.

[deucescorner]

well when i got mine like 6-7 months ago they were $950 , now they are like $1100...so thats kinda weird , but man they are so worth it. what wheels are you going with?

I've finally decided to go with 18" RS4 reps in gunmetal, too much headaches with 19's.

[deucescorner]

I have FSDs on both my A6 and my GTI, and Koni yellows on my M3. The ability to adjust the rebound on the yellows work well if you plan on changing the settings. The FSDs are more of the "install it - and forget it" use. I have 20s on my Avant, and the FSDs still provide a smooth comfortable, controlled ride.

I heard that to adjust the yellow's you would have to remove the shock itself

[VMRWheels]

I've finally decided to go with 18" RS4 reps in gunmetal, too much headaches with 19's.

Have you checked out our V708 (rs4) wheels? 18x8.5 +38 offset. If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me an email at [email protected]

-Charles@VMRWheels
www.vmrwheels.com

[m-avant]

I heard that to adjust the yellow's you would have to remove the shock itself

On my M3 - the front dampers had external tabs that a supplied Koni knob would attach to so that the rebound can be adjusted. The settings are done via the number "clicks" that the knob makes from the lowest (least firm) setting. The rears need to be removed from the car to make the adjustments. I had to push the piston of the damper halfway in, then turn to the desired setting.

[wofman]

deuce -- check out the bilstein sports -- definitely stiffer than FSDs and maybe a tad less g\hard than Koni yellow -- I use with Eibachs -- amazing ride, though you'll feel the cracks more than FSDs or stock but not as loose as FSDs or stock going over undulations in roads....

[DGISNOT]

well when i got mine like 6-7 months ago they were $950 , now they are like $1100...so thats kinda weird , but man they are so worth it. what wheels are you going with?

Hey Frank, are these the same ones as yours or are they a different part number? They are almost half the price!

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...&cat=70&page=1

Sorry for the thread jack deucescorner but maybe you can use this link as well. I will be buying these in the next few days.

[deucescorner]

Hey Frank, are these the same ones as yours or are they a different part number? They are almost half the price!

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...&cat=70&page=1

Sorry for the thread jack deucescorner but maybe you can use this link as well. I will be buying these in the next few days.

no worries that is a great price, i'm pretty sure those are the ones for my car too, part number matches according to the koni site

http://www.koni-na.com/cat_search.cf...=29&submit.y=6

are Koni FSD at least stiffer than stock or are the OE replacement

[deucescorner]

Has anyone tried or have feedback on this:

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...9&cat=0&page=1

[FrankA6]

Hey Frank, are these the same ones as yours or are they a different part number? They are almost half the price!

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...&cat=70&page=1

Sorry for the thread jack deucescorner but maybe you can use this link as well. I will be buying these in the next few days.

Well yeah thats about right, but i got springs with mine, got them from tirerack.com - but i guess if you buy them for like $600 for shocks and like $300 for springs, its ends up to $900 anyways.
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...4-1&perfCode=P

and got them in like 3-4 days. and for your answer deucescorner - they are stiffer than stock, but its really rides the same, you guys will be amazed how it feels. going down the highway its very smooth, and when in the bends, you can tell its stiffer.

[Gigi]

you will lose a lot of comfort with the yellows for sure. I have driven A6's with yellows and Eibach and H&R. Though they are worse with H&R ride is still very rough with Eibachs.
But the car will handle better on smooth pavement, you will have a lot less body roll and dive for sure. You will need to remove them for adjustment.
FSDs are much softer than yellows so much better ride but also a better more controlled handling on all surfaces. Car will still have some rolls and dive especially at lower speeds and small/short corners. I think they Re a better choice for a daily driver A6. Won't work well on track though IMO. But if you dont track, they'll do great and give you the lower look most if us are looking for. I had paid 850-90 for my FSD/Eibach combo.

[deucescorner]

thanks for the input guys, my mind is set to Prokit/FSD, not the bigger dilemma are 18's or 19's.

I think the reason I can't make up my mind is the minute price difference between them.

I've had 18's on my other car and now have 19's with 225/35 tires. Love the look but kind of getting annoyed with the ride.

Thing is the A6 is a relatively big car, not sure if 18's will be enough or will 19's suit it best.

[DGISNOT]

FYI: bought my Eibach's from shox.com for $249 shipped and the aforementioned FSDs for $589 shipped (total $838). Local installer quoted $450 for installation + $120 for alignment.

Hope that helps you, deuce.

Personally I'm partial to the look of the 18" wheels vs. 19" for the A6. The 4.2/RS (widebodies) IMO are the only ones that look "right" with the larger wheels. I have read in a few threads that the 19" really don't ride as nice as the 18" due to shorter and less compliant sidewalls.

[wofman]

There is a reason Gigi sold his 19s and returned to 18s. Keep in mind also that struts, suspension was engineered for 18 max. And you're right about effect of thin sidewalls on your ride. [Prediction: Frank will confirm the same as above in 9 months.] Of course, you should keep in mind that I'm the old school guy that used to think 18s were too big....

[deucescorner]

FYI: bought my Eibach's from shox.com for $249 shipped and the aforementioned FSDs for $589 shipped (total $838). Local installer quoted $450 for installation + $120 for alignment.

Hope that helps you, deuce.

Personally I'm partial to the look of the 18" wheels vs. 19" for the A6. The 4.2/RS (widebodies) IMO are the only ones that look "right" with the larger wheels. I have read in a few threads that the 19" really don't ride as nice as the 18" due to shorter and less compliant sidewalls.

thanks man, I'll call them tomorow for shipping prices to canada for some eibachs. But I can't find the FSD for $589shipped, the only FSD i see is $708

[deucescorner]

There is a reason Gigi sold his 19s and returned to 18s. Keep in mind also that struts, suspension was engineered for 18 max. And you're right about effect of thin sidewalls on your ride. [Prediction: Frank will confirm the same as above in 9 months.] Of course, you should keep in mind that I'm the old school guy that used to think 18s were too big....

Ya i just took out my accord for a spin(been neglecting her since the A6 purchase) and man was it bumpy. Definitely going for 18's

[Gigi]

18 is the way to go. They will look bigger if you avoid rims with lip and keep to somewhat flat long spoke that go the edge the rim without bends. Think RS6 or RS4 DTM reps. I sold amazing 19 X 8.5 BBS RSGTs for 18's though the FSD is the one shock that will help make up soem for the rubber band tire wall of 19's. I had 245/35's to get a little more tire wall on my 19's.
IMO go for 18'z if comfort is even a small concern to you.

[Gigi]

FYI. My 18" DTMs look the same size as my previous 19 RSGT's just because of the lip and busy mesh pattern on BBS. Shop carefully.

[deucescorner]

FYI. My 18" DTMs look the same size as my previous 19 RSGT's just because of the lip and busy mesh pattern on BBS. Shop carefully.

thanks Gigi, I've had my eye on RS4 reps in gunmetal(not DTM) in 18's. I'm just not sure what it will look like on a dark A6 with gunmetal. I'm thinking it will look good.

BTW here my Accord on 19's 225/35 tires(rubber bands)

[DGISNOT]

thanks man, I'll call them tomorow for shipping prices to canada for some eibachs. But I can't find the FSD for $589shipped, the only FSD i see is $708

Here's the link:

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...&cat=70&page=1

This company offers free shipping on the FSDs. Just keep in mind that prices are $US so they may charge a premium to ship to you in CA.

[DGISNOT]

I went with 18" RS6 reps wrapped in 235/40/18 shoes and Gigi is right, the no lip 5-spoke design makes them appear even larger. So much so that I have the dreaded "lifted" optical illusion that some have spoken about here on some AZ threads. Can't wait to get her slammed down!

[deucescorner]

Here's the link:

http://www.importrp.com/product.php?...&cat=70&page=1

This company offers free shipping on the FSDs. Just keep in mind that prices are $US so they may charge a premium to ship to you in CA.

thanks, ya the Canadian dollar has been dropping the past few weeks. I should've bought them during the summer

[deucescorner]

I went with 18" RS6 reps wrapped in 235/40/18 shoes and Gigi is right, the no lip 5-spoke design makes them appear even larger. So much so that I have the dreaded "lifted" optical illusion that some have spoken about here on some AZ threads. Can't wait to get her slammed down!

what do you mean "lifted" as in too high off the ground or the gap?

[DGISNOT]

what do you mean "lifted" as in too high off the ground or the gap?

Both, really.

Going from the stock 16" to 18" gives the illusion that the car is lifted up off the ground a bit higher and also accentuates the fender gap. Don't really know why (I'm no scientist) but it does. It is subtle, mind you, but you will notice it.

Frankly, IMO it still looks better than with the 16" stockers even with the slight lifted illusion. Lowering with a good suspension setup eliminates the prob!

[deucescorner]

Both, really.

Going from the stock 16" to 18" gives the illusion that the car is lifted up off the ground a bit higher and also accentuates the fender gap. Don't really know why (I'm no scientist) but it does. It is subtle, mind you, but you will notice it.

Frankly, IMO it still looks better than with the 16" stockers even with the slight lifted illusion. Lowering with a good suspension setup eliminates the prob!

so you have 18's with no drop, sorry i misunderstood, I thought you already had a drop but because of the wheels you want to go lower

thanks for the info, got any pics?

[DGISNOT]

Drop is forthcoming (FSDs ordered, Pro-kit received and ready to go!)

Since I have not lowered the car yet, I am speaking from experience about the lifted look on the 18s.

However, if you are debating about which to do first (drop or 18s) I don't think it matters much. Like I said, IMO the car still looks better with the 18s than the stock 16s, even with a slight "lift". It'll be perfect when I get it lowered!

One thing to keep in mind is the offset off the wheels you have/choose. If you do the +2 before the drop, you will have a better idea earlier as to whether you need spacers to set the wheels correctly, and most visually pleasing, in the wheel wells.

[deucescorner]

the wheels I will eventually be getting are B7 RS4 reps 18X8 with +38 offset with obviously Prokit/FSD drop

I'm almost sure there will be no rubbing and I was told that that with that offset and wheel design it should clear my brakes

[wofman]

no problem

[DGISNOT]

the wheels I will eventually be getting are B7 RS4 reps 18X8 with +38 offset with obviously Prokit/FSD drop

I'm almost sure there will be no rubbing and I was told that that with that offset and wheel design it should clear my brakes

Should clear alright. With that offset you may want to consider 5mm spacers on the rear at least to push the wheel/tire out closer to the edge of the fender for a more aggressive look. Personal preference, though . . .

[deucescorner]

Should clear alright. With that offset you may want to consider 5mm spacers on the rear at least to push the wheel/tire out closer to the edge of the fender for a more aggressive look. Personal preference, though . . .

I like that look aswell but with 5mm spaces, do I have to extend my studs? I will have to see how they look first before I add spacers though.

[Gigi]

get a 5 or even 8mm spacer with bolts kit. I had spacers before on my A6, 8mm in fr and 15mm that came with specially made bolts. Great set.

[DGISNOT]

get a 5 or even 8mm spacer with bolts kit. I had spacers before on my A6, 8mm in fr and 15mm that came with specially made bolts. Great set.

X2

[deucescorner]

get a 5 or even 8mm spacer with bolts kit. I had spacers before on my A6, 8mm in fr and 15mm that came with specially made bolts. Great set.

which kit is that

[Gigi]

GMP Performance spacers made for Audi. Sit just right. No vibration. Worth the few extra bucks. Built well. Call them and ask for Stephen.

By the way, do suspension before wheels. Handling should always come first before looks. Plus you will see how your car sits before getting new rims and rubbers. Will help with size.

[deucescorner]

GMP Performance spacers made for Audi. Sit just right. No vibration. Worth the few extra bucks. Built well. Call them and ask for Stephen.

By the way, do suspension before wheels. Handling should always come first before looks. Plus you will see how your car sits before getting new rims and rubbers. Will help with size.

that was my initial plan but I can get a good deal for some wheels

[deucescorner]

I just checked GMP Performance and the 8mm and 15mm kit cost $335usd, kind of pricy and all they have is 8mm and 15mm, no 5mm.

I'll probably decide only after I get the drop and wheels to see how it looks